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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:31 PM Original message |
President Obama corrects Bill and Hillary's greatest mistake! |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hillary? Don't you mean Bill and Newt Gingrich? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. Gingrich was House minority whip when DADT was passed. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hillary's was more of a failure to change health care. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's a little unfair. Clinton didn't really have much choice. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Yeah...he was in a bind on that one. It was this or no gays at all. n/t |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hillary? What about Colin Powell, Sam Nunn? |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. I read the subject and though Obama pulled out of NAFTA |
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Lilyeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. Yet when congress fucks up....its all Obama's fault. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. You really think that? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
6. Think in steps much? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. And it ignores the giant Elephant in the room |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
7. I don't blame Clinton for DADT. It was an incremental step in a long journey. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. I think that's exactly right. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. it is not repealed "no strings attached" or otherwise yet nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. But we leaped abut 20 steps closer. n/t |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. That would be deregulation and "free" trade as a tie. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. It is a good time to note that until DADT was passed being gay sent you to prison. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bill Clinton made many mistakes |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. I thought NAFTA or the WELFARE to Work fiasco was Big Bills greatest mistake/ or Maybe a blue dress |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. DADT was progress at the time |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. Deleted message |
Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. True, amazing twofer. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
17. Fail |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. Mistake? At least Clinton had the guts to try and take in on in the first place. 18 years later |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
19. Go away today. We are celebrating, no use for muckrakers!! |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. IMHO, their greatest mistake was terminating Glass-Stegall and promoting 'free' trade. (nt) |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. AFAIC, what you are doing is not any different than what Rush Limbaugh does because |
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egoclothes (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Well said. Thanks for the post. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. you do the same thing except your target is Obama |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You have been following me from thread to thread lying about me like a useless little twit |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. Geez... |
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Top Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. k&r |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. Actually, not acting on Rwanda was in my mind Bill's biggest foreign policy |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. Hillary? I must have missed her term as President, |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
30. K&R... Obama is correcting many of Bubba's worst legislative mistakes. |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
31. Hillary was not an elected official at the time |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. Repealing Glass - Stegall (sp) |
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Lilyeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
34. It's unfair to include Hillary. Her husband was the President, not her. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Fair? She at one time claimed her husband's experience as her own. |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Well, if you're saying that Obama (and his supporters, like Greg Craig) said that she did and then |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Greg Craig was an assistant and Special Counsel to President BClinton, n'est-ce pas? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Deleted message |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Greg Craig was also foreign policy adviser to Ted Kennedy and SOS Madeleine Albright. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. +1 |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Hmm, not so sure what was so controversial about that post... |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Yes, I do. And I consider that fact completely irrelevant, just like I did when Obama |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. You have missed the point entirely. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. So before Clinton gays could serve? I missed that (nt) |
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Petrus Romanus (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. Obama ended NAFTA? nt |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
45. Still fighting the primaries? After two years? |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
46. Why is this still open? |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Agreed. Bizarre, inaccurate, provocative. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Why is it still open? |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. It's par for the course, and it's damn sickening |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Most of the critics have little historical perspective. |
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Lisa D (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. This is the new DU |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
49. I can see someone doesn't know what they're talking about. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
50. Disagree with the premise for several reasons |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. Is there a point to this thread, other than being divisive, that is............. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Deleted message |
niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
53. DADT was state of the art at the time |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
54. As many others have written, President Clinton made bigger mistakes than DADT. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
57. DADT wasn't a mistake, it was a step in the right direction |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
60. This thread should be about NAFTA |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
61. It wasn't a mistake. It was an advance at that time. It was all that was possible at that time. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-10 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
65. Hillary? |
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