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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:53 AM
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Here are your new saviours...
http://www.salon.com/news/joe_scarborough/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/11/30/scarborough_group


WASHINGTON -- TV's Joe Scarborough, who today dismissed Sarah Palin as a symbol of "anti-intellectualism" with a "dopey dream" of being president, will help headline the launch next month of a new national group dedicated to restoring civility in politics.
<...>
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is also expected to take part, along with an array of other self-described centrists, including retiring Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), Sen. Joe Lieberman, (I-Conn.), former Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.), Rep. Chris Shays (R-Conn), Los Angeles's Democratic Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Sen. Deb Stabenow (D-Mich.), former Gov. Christie Todd Whitman (R-N.J.) and former Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (R-N.Y.)

What can you even say about that lineup besides "where's Harold Ford"?

It gets even more ridiculous: The "No Labels" organization (I'm not sure whether to blame Naomi Klein or feel bad for her) was founded, of course, by longtime Democratic fundraiser Nancy Jacobson -- the wife of pollster grifter Mark Penn -- and Bush and McCain media guru Mark McKinnon. The group -- which promises that its not a stalking-horse for a third party -- demands that everyone in politics just civilly solve problems from the "pragmatic cen
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:55 AM
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1. The center is an authoritarian fringe.
It is not the center.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:14 PM
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5. They are full of shit..
if they think Scar is a voice of reason along with Bayh,LIEberman and others on the list.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:56 AM
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2. Joe LIEberman????????????????
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 11:57 AM by BrklynLiberal
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

I find him the most detestable on that list, which would appear to be a collection of folks who, while peeing on your shoes, would tell you it is raining....and continue to argue about it if you object.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:57 AM
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3. If I didn't "stop" at Evan Bayh, I definitely did at "Holy Joe" Lieberman
:puke:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:07 PM
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4. Can we all just get along?
It wouldn't be politics if there were civility but a tea party. Did I just say that?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:47 PM
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6. The getting along they want.
is for the Democrats to follow the RepubliCON agenda..
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 02:27 PM
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7. Harold Ford is
getting rid of the evidence:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:35 PM
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8. Yes,Harold is always..
used to reinforce Scar's points when he and the rest of the panel look at everything the President does through the prism of race.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:47 AM
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9. Here they are this morning ...
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 11:49 AM by butterfly77
trying to tell us to vote republiCON they can kiss my ass!!!These are the same mfkers who put us in the predicament that we are in so why would we listen to their shit...

I am watching this live broadcast to see what games they will be playing next year and beyondhttp://nolabels.org/http://www.livestream.com/nolabelsorg?utm_source=lsplayer&utm_medium=embed&utm_campaign=footerlinks

Evan Bayh,Scarbo,Bloomberg,Gergen think they are going to set the agenda for the next two years these are the same people who stopped the public option among other things the President wanted to do...This event is live
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:52 AM
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10. One more time. "Centrism" is a myth.
Untellable Truths
George Lakoff

...• Many people are "bi-conceptual," this is, they have both conservative and progressive moral systems and apply them in different issue areas. These are sometimes called "independents," "swing voters," moderates," "the center," etc. They are the crucial segment of the electorate to address. Each moral system is represented by a circuit in their brains. The more one circuit is activated and strengthened the more the other is weakened. Conservatives have moved them to the right by repeating conservative moral messages 24/7. The Democrats need to activate and strengthen the progressive moral circuitry in their brains. That means using only progressive language and progressive arguments, and not moving to the right or using the right's language. This is the opposite of "moving to the center." There is no ideology of the center, just combinations of progressive and conservative views.

• Don't use conservative language, since it will activate their moral system in the brains of listeners. Don't try to negate their arguments. That will only make their arguments more prominent. Use your own language and your own arguments. Truth squads and wonk rooms are insufficient...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/untellable-truths_b_794832.html

NGU.

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:12 PM
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11. When they say work from the center...
that means all things republiCON scar is on there complaining about people in their basements eating cheetos and how hateful they are because they don't agree with his bullshit...Independents my ass.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:17 PM
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12. 2 people just stood..
up and told scar they are bloggers and they don't sit in their basements eating cheetos..
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:19 PM
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13. The panel is nothing but..
a bunch of republiCONS..
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