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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:16 PM
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Really? That's the first time we heard about that problem.
Edited on Fri Sep-24-10 10:19 PM by Safetykitten
Everyone with a computer has had to call about a problem. So you get Bangalore and proceed to tell the story tewnty times, over and over again. Then you finally get someone and you hear those words that make you cringe. "We really have not had an issue with that". So you are unique, one of a kind, special, and in your specialness know down deep in your computer torture, you cannot be the only one. You cannot be the only person on the planet with this problem.

Well, that is what not having health insurance in the US is like now. All around you you hear how things are just fabulous, people are being helped, problems being solved, people being taken care of. But you are the unique one, the special one that cannot get healthcare in a high risk pool, cannot afford the cost; this is what you are to the government as the "really we have not heard".

It does no service to badger people that have no insurance on the merits of a system they cannot join, nor have any hope of joining. Why is it so important that the mechanics of a sick system be reviewed again and again to prove to the person not getting help? Why is it a contest to prove the person who has gone through the process a moron, liar or imbecile? Do people think that doing the healtcare obtaining gig is something to past the time? So joining on the "really" bandwagon is not only cruel, but shows the craveness of the system itself, and the exposure of the haves and have nots.

When you "really" get down to the truth about our healthcare reform, it's about bodies. Dead bodies. The dead bodies that people are willing to walk over while holding their nose and averting their eyes to get to a paradise in 2014. Then forgetting about those dead bodies that were laid out as the bridge.

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:21 PM
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1. Did you ever ask yourself.....
Edited on Fri Sep-24-10 10:23 PM by Davis_X_Machina
..."Why 2014?"

The answer of course is an evil Rahmified plot to postpone the actual good stuff until after One-Term Obama cashes in and is giving speeched to his friends in the insurance industry.

Oh wait, no it isn't.

The problem is, was, and always will be, the Senate.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:50 PM
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2. I believe you when you say
there are people who have no insurance or the hope of ever having it. I haven't met them or heard about any of them specifically, at least, not in the way I have those who will, or are being helped by some of the new provisions that have taken effect.

Like most Americans, my understanding of medical insurance is limited by my own situation and needs, and by people I know or have heard about. I honestly don't know of the group or individuals who would fall into the category you are talking about. Will you provide a link or two, or a factual case, with the particulars that prevent these people from ever being covered? It might help me make the connection between health care reform and "dead bodies".
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:12 AM
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3. Un fucking believable!!
Ever been in a Walmart?
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:42 AM
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6. Oh, stop cussing at me.
I'm not the enemy. I'm just trying to get a little information so maybe I can hate the changes as much as you.
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 01:20 AM
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8. I'm one of them. I don't have insurance and won't be able to get
it, either. I had to quit my job to take care of my elderly, sick father. I moved into his house when my mom died six years ago. I have no income, none. We live on his money. In order for me to apply for Medicaid or our state program, I have to list the household income, not mine. My dad gets Social Security and a pension, but by the third week of every month, there's no money left after the bills are paid and the groceries are bought. His income is above the amount for me to qualify. I doubt that it'll change in 2014, but the way things look, I probably won't live that long anyway.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:37 AM
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4. What are you talking about?
I just see no start, middle or ending to your post. It doesn't even make sense to me.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:52 PM
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7. Exhibit A
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:00 AM
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9. umm, wrong. wow.
it made perfect sense. you must have "comprehension" issues. :crazy:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:25 AM
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5. Thanks for your post. Sometimes I feel like a leper.
Since "health reform" it's gotten worse, not better. My hip has gotten so bad I can't walk without a limp anymore so people I know always inquire about it. I usually smile politely and just say "bum hip, getting old," but sometimes they press me on it and I'm forced to admit that although my husband and I are both self-employed and getting by as well as can be expected in this economy, we don't have access to medical care because the pre-existing condition pool is very expensive if you're older. It struck me the other day how embarrassed I feel when having these conversations . . . as if it's my fault I live in a country that ignores what other civilized nations do and enshrines for-profit healthcare. I'm just grateful the hip is not life threatening. So many other people are so much worse off than we are.
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