Snooki-gate: Obama may not have plausible deniablity!

[smalll]

So today on The View, Obama denied knowing who Snooki is. However, he mentioned her in his Correspondents' Dinner speech this year.

Some have claimed that Obama may have been telling the truth because it was his speechwriters who put the Snooki reference into the C.D. speech, and Obama merely recited their words.

HOWEVER, video of the Correspondents' Dinner reveals that Obama pronounced Snooki's name correctly. Think about it for a minute. If you saw the name "Snooki" in text, and were not aware of her, wouldn't you read it out to rhyme with Snoopy, rather than with cookie?

Obama can only retain plausible deniability if it is contended that her name was wrtten out for him phonetically in the C.D. speech. The only way he can put this behind him successfully is if the White House releases a true copy of the speech-text that Obama used which proves that the name was written out phonetically. If they can't do that, we have to assume that the President was being less than fully truthful on The View.

Here's video of the C.D. speech -- he mentions Snooki right after 12:00 in the recording. http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/05/a_mocking_obama_at_the_white_h.html

[Hassin Bin Sober]

1. Wha the f-ck is a Snooki-gate?

[GoCubsGo]

55. And, who the hell is Snooki?

[xxqqqzme]

65. I'm in the dark as well - who is this

person? Is it a character or a real person? My culture gap is exposed.

[AngryAmish]

69. OK, OK...we'll stay off your lawn...

[vaberella]

2. Why is this shit so important it needs to be posted here?!

Lordy...this is the second post on this. It's not news. Someone else writes those jokes---I figured this was known.

[smalll]

3. Yes, someone else writes the jokes - but how did Obama know how to pronounce the name?

Again -- think about finding "Snooki" in a speech you have to read. If you've never heard of her, it would be natural to pronounce it to rhyme with Snoopy, rather than with cookie or bookie. But he pronounced it correctly!

[vaberella]

4. Isn't it like snookums. How would you pronounce?!

Tell me you're being sarcastic here. Huh? I think you're reading into it. I didn't know who snooki was when I read of her in France and I pronounced it right. I don't think instinctual you'd pronounce it in the sort of snoopy way. It doesn't matter anyway because her name ends in KI or KIE and one actually would rhyme it with cookie. So I find your post absurd. Lord.

[smalll]

6. Bringing up "snookums" is an interesting idea, but I don't think it goes too far --

Googling "snookums" results in 77,500 hits; but googling "schnookums" results in 96,100 hits.

What I'm getting at is that while "Snooki" does rhyme with "schnookums" or "schnook" it is the presence of the SCH- or SH- that clues one in to pronouncing such words with the short rather than the long "oo" sound. As Snooki's name doesn't have the SH- or SCH- beginning, I would contend that most people, sight unseen, would pronounce the name to rhyme with Snoopy.

[vaberella]

31. This is not real.n/t

[Pirate Smile]

14. They write it in the speech in way which shows how to pronounce it correctly. Happens all the time.

[smalll]

16. Well the White House should just release a true copy of the speech.

It appears in the video that he was reading it off paper rather than using a teleprompter, so there probably is a hard copy that could be accessed.

[Pirate Smile]

25. Who cares? There isn't a "Snooki-gate".

[vaberella]

32. Now I know you're joking.

I can't tell any more who's joking or not. Ugh..i remember when Obama made his speech in Cairo to the Muslim community and a poster made a massive thread complaining that womens rights were placed 7th on his list of mentions and it shows how misogynistic he is. At this point, anything is real.

[Orangepeel]

24. wait, you're serious? I thought your first post was pretty funny

but now I'm all confused thinking you really mean it.

[Warren Stupidity]

47. i have no idea who or what a snooki is but i think it rhymes with

cookie and i think you have lost your wee little mind.

[Milo_Bloom]

61. Because they rehearse?

He can be corrected in pronunciation of a name without knowing who the person is.

[tallahasseedem]

34. Because there are...

some here that can't get the hell over the primaries.

[LiberalFighter]

5. Didn't have a clue what you are posting even after checking your link.

And because of that you get a unrec.

Who gives a rat ass about this?

[DevonRex]

7. Same way people know how to pronounce Sookie Stackhouse. Duh.

:eyes: Or Whoopi Goldberg.

[smalll]

9. Well, I think the short-oo sound is expected in "Whoopi" as people will analogize it to "whoopie" -

I've never heard of Sookie Stackhouse. And yes, I would pronounce "Sookie" with the long-oo sound.

[DevonRex]

19. Sookie is pronounced with the short oo sound. nt

[DevonRex]

8. Bookie. nt

[Phx_Dem]

10. Oh please. You've lost your everlovin mind.

[treestar]

11. I've only seen it and never heard it pronounced

And thought it rhymed with Cookie :rofl:

[Phx_Dem]

12. For the record, the reason he knew how to pronouce it was pretty fucking obvious.

Joy had just asked him if SNOOKI should run for mayor of Wasilla. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not know how to pronounce a name that was just pronounced TO YOU?!

[smalll]

15. No, I mean he pronounced it correctly the FIRST time -- at the Correspondents' Dinner! /nt

[DevonRex]

17. I pronounced Sookie correctly the first time I said it. Same with Whoopi. And bookie.

Double-o words can go either way. You've got at least a 50/50 chance of being right. And in some parts of the country roof is pronounced like more like the oo in book than like the oo in kook.

Your point is a weak one.

[dionysus]

36. i had to ask Wadsworth who snooki was. after he told me, i emptied the snifter of brandy

in one draught and had to be escorted to the fainting couch. for a crochety old chap, he sure knows his reality television.

this one will take down obama for sure!!

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

38. I still don't know. My lady's maid is out with the footman again.

Just who watches those shows anyway?

:rofl:

[dionysus]

41. mostly those kids with their sideways caps and redbulls... i think...

:D

[DevonRex]

42. Ahh.

The ones who watch Jersey Shore and the like. I did happen to catch some muscles wandering around on the telly one evening but got bored when lots of cleavage walked in.

[Phx_Dem]

20. You think he didn't rehearse his jokes? Come on.

[Crabby Appleton]

13. pronounced like snooker except with "i" instead of "er"

[Peacetrain]

18. Let me pass on to you, what my Grandma used to tell me about such "situations"

When you find you have dug yourself in a deep hole.. put down the shovel. Just put down the shovel. Back away.. and put down the shovel..

[jefferson_dem]

21. The OP is just messin' around with us...

I hope.

[Peacetrain]

22. Oh good!

glad to hear that :hi:

[dionysus]

39. i give 60/40 odds on that.

[SunsetDreams]

53. .

:rofl:

[CakeGrrl]

23. OP: Wistfully nostalgic for the 2008 Dem Primaries.

:rofl:

[dionysus]

37. the barrel has been scraped so low, it's gonna have a hole in the bottom...

[ecstatic]

60. Yep. Silly season is back! nt

[renate]

26. I have absolutely no idea what this is in reference to, never heard "snooki"

But when I read the name, the way I pronounced it in my head rhymes with cookie.

I've also never seen whatever show Sookie Stackhouse is on--I've seen the name, though, and same thing: I assumed it rhymes with cookie.

[lunatica]

27. I know a Snooky and it's pronounced Snuki

And don't you ever watch True Blood?

[Cali_Democrat]

28. LOL

:spray:

[boppers]

29. face+palm

Seriously?

[SunsetDreams]

52. make that two of us

[democrat2thecore]

30. WHO CARES? Now, the CorPsman thing - that was embarrassing. But there's nothing with this -nt

[tallahasseedem]

33. The fact that this is even being repeated and debated here...

is truly sad. It's starting to make the teabaggers look intelligent.

[dionysus]

35. you're actually serious, aren't you.

[DevonRex]

40. Yes.

Heaven help us all.

[firedupdem]

46. LOL!!

:rofl:

[MiniMe]

43. Somebody else wrote the speech for him,. and he only pronouced it correctly after

Joy had already said Snooki's name.

[smalll]

45. Look at the link in my OP -- go to 12:00 in the video - of him giving the speech earlier this year -

He pronounced it correctly in the speech.

How did he know how to do that? That's what I'm asking. Phonetic spelling? Then release a true copy of the speech. You can see in the video, also, that he is reading the speech off paper in front of him - not through a teleprompter -- that hard copy must be available in some form somewhere.

[Drunken Irishman]

49. Do you suffer from brain damage?

[Politics_Guy25]

44. lolwut?

[Retrograde]

48. Maybe he was snookered? (n/t)

[Drunken Irishman]

50. How do you pronounce smalll?

Sma-lll with a drawn out l or do you pronounce it fucking batshit insane?

[dionysus]

57. !

:rofl:

[JTFrog]

64. ROFL!

:spray:

[DevonRex]

67. I think it's

pronounced

they're coming to take me away hahahehe

[applegrove]

51. I would have pronounced it as snooky. And I doubt that Obama reading his

speech was his first run through of it. Totally plausible.

[fishwax]

54. not that it matters, but I would read Snooki exactly as it's pronounced

That's how the digraph "oo" is usually pronounced before the letter k: book, cook, rookie, cookie (as you point out), and, of course, nookie.

[tammywammy]

56. Um, maybe he asked someone how to pronouce it before he gave the speech.

If this is a serious OP, you need help.

[mercuryblues]

58. OMG!11!

Snooki rhymes with nookie. Get out the chalk board and draw the lines. It is time to impeach!!1!

*sarcasm*

[ecstatic]

59. I'm ashamed to say I watched Jersey Shore last night. Snookie called Obama

out over the tanning tax--she claimed she can't afford to tan anymore due to the tax. :eyes:

[DevonRex]

66. That's the one with the muscles and cleavage, right?

Somebody said my nephew looks like he spends too much time at the Jersey Shore so I had to watch a few minutes of it. Sure enough, he does look like he might spend a few minutes there at least.

[Hosnon]

62. ... I'm taking a break from DU until Monday... nt.

[NYC Liberal]

63. LOL, nice parody of Faux and the right-wingers.

:rofl: :thumbsup:

[w4rma]

68. Nice. That's exactly what they do. (nt)

[Gormy Cuss]

70. "If you saw the name "Snooki" in text... I'd pronounce it like cookie.

I've known other Snookies and would assume this person pronounced it the same as ALL of them.

[Metric System]

71. Damn, he can kiss the orange vote goodbye in 2012.

[Dreamer Tatum]

72. FCOL, he knows/knew exactly who she is.

Not a huge deal in any case.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

73. Obama should not waste a single brain cell on that twit Snooki.

He has far more important things to worry about than a bunch of greasy people from New York on a reality show.

That bunch on "Jersey Shore" does not have a collective room temperature IQ between them.

[Arkana]

74. I...just...what.

[Sheepshank]

75. ok well first.....

HOWEVER, video of the Correspondents' Dinner reveals that Obama pronounced Snooki's name correctly. Think about it for a minute. If you saw the name "Snooki" in text, and were not aware of her, wouldn't you read it out to rhyme with Snoopy, rather than with cookie?

wTF...no, I never would even have considered pronouncing it to rhyme with Snoopy. What an absolutely absurd assumption and premise. Considering I'm not even as smart as Obama...I'm pretty sure it doesn't take rocket science to pronounce that name to rhyme with cookie.