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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:55 AM
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We Have a President Who Takes Responsibility.
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 09:04 AM by Avalux
I am really disturbed to hear rumblings that President Obama is as bad as *.

So who will tell me Obama isn't taking responsibility for his actions, just like that man who spent 8 years INTENTIONALLY wrecking this country? Whether you agree or disagree with the decisions he's made, each and every time - Obama makes it clear he alone is to be held accountable for them. And not just his decisions - all those bad decisions made over the past 8 years as well.

Just wanted to make that clear.

:kick:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:03 AM
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1. & he asked for our help
...not a shiv in his back.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:07 AM
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2. Absolutely!
I've had some unrecs but no one has piped up to disagree with me yet. ;-)
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:08 AM
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3. I'm sure that's a real comfort to those Afghan mothers whose children are blown to bits or burned to
death by our bombs. A real comfort, too, to the jobless, the homeless, and so many others! I'll remind the young Black men with no jobs, no hope of jobs, wandering up and down our streets of that when I see them, too. I'm sure it will help.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:10 AM
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4. Damn - he's not the messiah? He can't cure all the ills of the world with a wave of his hand?
Even I can do that - what an evil man Obama is.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:11 AM
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5. Your comment is noted.
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 09:12 AM by Avalux
Did you really expect Obama to snap his fingers and make all our problems go away in less than a year? I really don't understand this magical thinking, considering the damage done over the past 8 years. Those who put Obama up on a pedestal are the most disappointed I suppose.
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NavyMom Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:53 PM
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12. Since I have one son in Afghanistan let me answer...what the HELL are
you doing to change their projection? Whining, bitching, laying all the ills of the world at his feet why not show these young men some options like how to get vocational training or attend school. Have you spoken to any of them to see if they have any ideas or aspirations to be business owners but don't believe because of their particular situation no one will loan them money, are you willing to help or find them help to find financing for school or business ownership. A lot of people do not realize how much help is available, so what are YOU doing to improve their situation, cause whining is not working nor your blame PO meme.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:06 PM
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14. Thanks Navy Mom..as you might
have noticed there're a lot of people who aren't doing anything but whining about what the President does.

Thank your son for his service please.

http://www.anysoldier.com/

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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:57 PM
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17. I am very sorry that you have family - particularly a child - in this war
As for the rest, I have no idea what you are going on about. I'm not under any obligation to satisfy your demand for my "credentials" or activist history. I'll say what I please, you do the same.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:15 AM
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6. He doesn't take enough responsibility, our government being what it is...
...but he accepts more than any other president did, since Carter or perhaps even farther back.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:33 AM
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7. If Obama believed in accountability he wouldn't be so eager to give that country wrecker a pass.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:04 AM
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9. that is one huge fucking blunder that will come back to bite America
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 10:04 AM by Skittles
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:57 AM
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8. Exactly. NT
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:18 AM
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10. Why would he worry about accountability?
We don't hold the architects of a worldwide torture and illegal imprisonment network accountable. Nor accountable for their illegal spying on citizens program and their invasion of the wrong country on an outright lie.

Exactly what decision could Obama be held accountable for. Negative public opinion is not accountability for illegal decisions or bad decisions that end up killing innocent people.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 03:10 PM
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11. True. He blames the previous administration for all our problems instead of having some lackey do it
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:52 PM
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15. Er, doesn't the previous administration deserve it?
There's no reason for Obama to be held responsible for Bush's actions.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:05 PM
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16. The OP says he's taking responsibility. Blaming others is not taking responsibility.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:18 PM
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18. Read the whole OP this time.
He clearly states President Obama takes responsibility for HIS actions. I mean it's fine if you don't like Obama, but it's really hard to take you seriously when you do petty shit like this.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:15 PM
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22. I was responding to #11 thank you very much
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:34 PM
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23. Be easy.
I was responding to #16, not you
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:14 PM
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21. It doesn't mean being responsible for others' actions
I can't believe you're letting Bush off the hook.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:39 PM
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20. Then clearly the previous administration deserves to be held accountable.
Oh wait...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:01 PM
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13. Yes, that's another thing I liked
about Obama when I was first getting to know what he was all about and he most certainly has been consistent.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:37 PM
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19. He gave Bush a pass.
That's not taking responsibility.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:44 PM
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24. Every administration sweeps the crimes of the previous under the rug.
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 02:44 PM by ipaint
"In violation of solemn international agreements signed by American presidents and ratified by the American congress, this Johnson government has committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against the peace. It has committed these crimes because the Johnson government exists to preserve the economic exploitation and the military domination of subject peoples by the United States industrial magnates and their military arm. The Central Intelligence Agency, which has a budget fifteen times larger than all the diplomatic activity of the United States, is involved in the assassination of heads of state and plots against independent governments. This sinister activity is designed to destroy the leadership and the organisation of peoples who are struggling to free themselves from the stranglehold of American economic and political domination. United States militarism is inseparable from that same predatory capitalism which reduced the American people themselves to poverty within the living memory of this generation."

Bertrand Russell


Obama is no different. Until we get an administration that does take responsibility and sweeps the putrid hidden mess out into the open nothing will change. There is no accountability therefore no need for responsibility.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:48 PM
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25. Amen. President Obama is just another Corporate CEO ... all that truly matters are the health and
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 02:48 PM by ShortnFiery
welfare of the large CORPORATIONS. If there's anything left ... any little thing ... the unwashed masses are thrown "the scraps" BUT we're supposed to be Oh, so, grateful to BIG BROTHER CORPORATE MASTER. :puke:

"Obama is no different." ---> He's just another puppet of the moneyed ruling elite.

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