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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 08:18 AM
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Rasmussen claims Toomey 45%, Sestak 38% in latest poll
Congressman Joe Sestak’s post-primary bounce appears to be over, and he now trails Republican rival Pat Toomey by seven points in the U.S. Senate contest in Pennsylvania.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Pennsylvania shows Toomey with 45% support, while Sestak earns 38%. Five percent (5%) prefer another candidate in the race, and 12% are undecided. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/pennsylvania/2010_senate_election/election_2010_pennsylvania_senate

Of course, let me remind everyone that Rasmussen claimed that Blumenthal's lead was down to 3 in CT after the "scandal" about his military service was in the NYT. The next poll was 56% to 33%. Who the hell were they polling? But then Rasmussen loves to manipulate...the media will now quote only this poll that has Toomey ahead by 7 points.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 08:22 AM
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1. They'll blame it on the "job" scandal.....
Like anyone really gives a fuck except those who need a scandal desperately,
cause that's the only way they can win.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:36 AM
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8. No one cares here till after labor day
Edited on Sun Jun-06-10 09:37 AM by AllentownJake
We enjoy our summers and other than the local party people on both sides don't give a fuck till the kids are back in school. Joe is lucky the media will be bored with that story by September. He better have a quiet summer.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 08:22 AM
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2. I still think Sestak needs to come clean about his military record.
There is something just not right there. He is very evasive about it. If he really wants to win, he needs to be more transparent. Every time I've seen Sestak asked about his record, and why he won't disclose information on it, he is very evasive. His answers leave me uncomfortable, and no doubt others wonder what's there as well.

I still think Sestak is the better of the two Democratic candidates, of course Arlen Specter could have quite easily switched back to the GOP if he got re-elected.

I'm uneasy about Sestak, and I'm sure others are as well. Rasmussen is hardly a reliable pollster, but the military record is a negative that could be dealt with easily enough, unless what's there would do more damage than the speculation about what's there. :shrug:
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 08:49 AM
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4. You mean this
In the summer of 2005, Sestak was administratively reassigned from his position as DCNO effectively ending his naval career. His removal was one of the first changes made by Admiral Michael Mullen when he took over as the new Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) in July, 2005, according to Navy Times.

Something else here:
Sestak then directed the CNO's Strategy and Policy Division (N51), and led the Navy's efforts toward the 2000 Quadrennial Defense Review, for which he analyzed the economic value of U.S. defense spending. After September 11th, he became the first director of the Navy Operations Group (Deep Blue), which sought to redefine strategic, operational and budgetary policies in the Global War on Terrorism. He reported directly to the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), Admiral Vern Clark, as policy adviser and administrator. Under Clark, Sestak worked to rein in military spending by maximizing fleet efficiency.

Look at the last paragraph where Sestak was trying to rein in military spending, something that would have upset some members of Congress, especially in places where ship building was the main employer. So it's probably a good bet that Sestak had stepped on toes and pissed certain people off, and when Mullen came in he did Rumsfeld's dirty work by fucking Sestak's career.


Maybe questions should be asked of Admiral Mullen, after all it was 2005, the Bush administration was still in charge, and Rumsfeld was still Defense Secretary. May I remind you of what happened to General Eric Shinseki after he disagreed with the Bush administration.

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:18 AM
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5. It would seem attempting to reign in military spending would be a positive that Sestak would want to
promote. After all, out of control spending is a very real concern among the public today. If that were it, I suspect he would have already publicized that.

I agree that a LOT of questions should be asked of the Bush Administration and everyone associated with it. But until we get a President and an Attorney General with respect for the law, and a desire to do the right thing for people, the crimes of Bushco will likely remain secrets.

I think there's more to the Sestak story than anyone knows.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 10:17 AM
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9. Release the records and be done with it
He was in a position of authority in the US Government, if there is something in there he doesn't like better to do it in June before it is leaked in October.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 01:20 PM
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18. Why ARE you speculating then?

Looks to me YOU are trying to start a rumor. Why would you do that?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 08:32 AM
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3. Scotty has returned to "narrative setting" mode
A couple more polls will come out to prove Scotty wrong.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:24 AM
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6. We'll see how those percentages begin to shift when Sestak starts
running ads portraying Toomey as a right-wing nutbag.

And Toomey most certainly is a right-wing nutbag.

Let the voters in Pennsylvania be reminded how much of a right-wing nutbag Pat Toomey really is.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 11:25 AM
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17. Sestak needs to run this clip in an ad (Toomey's appearance on "Hardball")
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 01:45 PM
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19. Yes. There is a pro-choice demographic in a big state like
Pennsylvania and Sestak won the Philadelphia chapter of the National Organization of Women endorsement in the primary against Arlen.

He could likely play this issue up to Toomey's chagrin.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:33 AM
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7. Probably tied in reality at 42 or 40
Edited on Sun Jun-06-10 09:34 AM by AllentownJake
Pennsylvanians don't care about politics till after labor day. Any poll before than is noise.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 10:17 AM
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10. Yep. n/t
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 10:18 AM
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11. Sestak never stood a chance
Been saying that all along
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 10:24 AM
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12. Turnout
Edited on Sun Jun-06-10 10:25 AM by AllentownJake
Sestak and Specter have about the same chance. Though Specter would have ran a better coordianted campaign than Sestak will and Joe has harder core supporters who are frankly annoying and I try to avoid.

Any poll prior to labor day is noise. PA doesn't follow politics closely when the weather is warm. We only get that 4 months out of the year.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 10:36 AM
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13. 19% of democrats remain undecided in his poll WTF!!!! are they waiting for
Toomey is a Wall Street Corporate there is a clear choice hear.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 10:58 AM
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14. Because it is not true? I find that highly unlikely, don't you?
Manipulation of the poll....
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 11:05 AM
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16. Probably accurate
I'm guessing 20% of respondents overall don't know who either of these guys are outside of yard signs and a few primary commercials they tuned out waiting for Jeopardy to come back on.

Pennsylvanians don't care about politics till after the summer.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 11:04 AM
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15. It is June
Edited on Sun Jun-06-10 11:07 AM by AllentownJake
Pennslyvanians don't give a fuck till September.

20% of the state has no clue who either of these guys are.

Primary turnout was bad. Other than people who follow this shit, no one cares till after September.
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