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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 05:19 PM
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Kent Conrad Rips Media: Yes, We Can Do Reform Via Reconciliation
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 05:21 PM by babylonsister
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/kent-conrad-rips-media-yes-we-can-do-reform-via-reconciliation/

Kent Conrad Rips Media: Yes, We Can Do Reform Via Reconciliation


In an interview with me just now, Senator Kent Conrad tore into the media for repeatedly botching its reporting on reconciliation, and confirmed that in his view, the current plan being entertained by Obama and Dems to pass reform via that tactic can, in fact, be made to work.

Conrad, the budget committee chair, also offered his most detailed explanation yet for why the House must pass the Senate bill first, before the Senate passes its reconciliation fix.

Conrad caused a big stir yesterday by saying: “Reconciliation cannot be used to pass comprehensive health care reform.” This was widely interpreted as claiming that the Dem way forward is a non-starter.

But Conrad patiently explained that the media interpretation of his comments is wrong. He was merely saying reconciliation would not be used to pass a comprehensive bill, and would only be used to pass the sidecar fix, which he said is workable, depending on what’s in it.

“Reporters don’t seem to be able to get this straight,” Conrad said, hitting the “misreporting” he said is widespread. “Comprehensive health care reform will not work through reconciliation. But if the House passes the Senate bill, and wants certain things improved on, like affordability, the Medicaid provisions, how much of Medicaid expenses are paid for by the Federal government, that is something that could be done through reconciliation.”

“A sidecar would be a good candidate for reconciliation depending on what’s in it,” Conrad said, adding that he didn’t think fixes to abortion or immigration provions would likely work, something that could create obstacles to passing the Senate bill in the House.

Conrad also explained in new detail why he believes that the House must pass the Senate bill first, a view that has been denounced by some critics who want the Senate to pass its fix before the House acts.

Conrad said that under Congressional rules, for a reconciliation fix to be “scored,” it’s not necessary that it become law, but it is necessary for it to have passed both houses of Congress before getting fixed. “For the scoring to change it has to have passed Congress, and that means both houses,” he said.

“The only thing that works here is the House has to pass the Senate bill,” Conrad continued. “Then the House can initiate a reconciliation measure that would deal with a limited number of issues that score for budget purposes.” After that, the Senate would pass the same reconciliation fix, Conrad explained, because even on the fix itself the House must go first because the lower chamber must initiate “revenue bills.”

Got that? It does look like this is how it’s all going to go down.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 05:24 PM
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1. Yes! It's going to happen.
I hope the guy sends this to all the media.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:31 PM
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6. But it WOULD require the House to trust the Senate:
trust that the Senate would pass the fixes via reconciliation after the House passed the Senate bill.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 05:30 PM
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2. *Gasp* You Mean The Media Is MISREPORTING Something????
And it makes the Dems look bad???? What is this world coming to?
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 05:36 PM
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3. Okay, this is getting confusing. I thought we didn't need Reconciliation because
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 05:37 PM by Mike 03
we technically have passed both bills in the Congress and Senate.

But I love Conrad. He is one of my favorite Dems, based on his performance during the markup of the Senate Bill on the Finance Committee.

EDIT: Rec, gladly.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 05:59 PM
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4. We need to do sidecar reconciliation, changing a few things with the Senate bill.
What Conrad was talking about was no doing an entire Health care bill by reconciliation. At least, that is what I got from it.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:13 PM
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5. I trust him. He is very knowledgeable. Frankly, however we have to do it, I am
for it. No apologies.

Thank you.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:37 PM
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8. Different versions of the bill has been passed in each chamber.
Identical legislation needs to be passed in both chambers before it can go to the President. If there are differences they have to iron out those differences to make them the same.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:35 PM
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7. The deep Blue Dog, Kent Conrad totally blew any credibility he had with his co-op's, helping to
derail any real health insurance reform up front. No way will I ever vote for him ever. Then there is the little matter of the loan for his house.
He is as crooked as any republican.

http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/top-5/2008/06/12/Countrywide-Loan-Scandal/
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:05 PM
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9. He's generally right about what the press did with this...
... but his answer wasn't exactly clear. ;)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:24 AM
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10. Am I dreaming or did Larry O'Donnell just say this CAN be done via reconciliation...
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 12:25 AM by Clio the Leo
.... when he's been saying the OPPOSITE for months?

(Remember, he's been saying since last fall "this cannot survive the 60 vote threshold, yada yada yada....")

Did he FINALLY get a clue? (hosting countdown tonight)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#35654085
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Foghorn80 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 06:11 PM
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11. Senator Conrad Town Hall Meeting on Health Care Reform
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 06:15 PM
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12. C*nt Conrad can go fuck himself
He's one of the pieces of shit who prevented REAL reform in the first place, and should any attempt at REAL reform take place in reconciliation, he will probably do so again.
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