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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:19 PM
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Venezuela 'helped Eta and Farc plot against Uribe'
Source: BBC

A Spanish judge has accused the Venezuelan government of assisting two rebel groups which plotted to kill Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe.

Judge Eloy Velasco charged six members of Basque separatist group Eta and seven members of Colombian rebel group Farc with various offences.

In a 26-page indictment Mr Velasco said an investigation launched in 2008 has turned up evidence "that demonstrates Venezuelan governmental co-operation in the illicit collaboration between Farc and Eta".

The judge said Eta and Farc had been collaborating since 1993, and accused Arturo Cubillas Fontan of being a key link. Mr Fontan lives in Venezuela and has held a job in the government of President Hugo Chavez - and may still have one - the judge wrote.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8543349.stm



Got to love those Spanish judges - that's what a truly independent judiciary looks like.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:24 PM
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1. So, how come the Spanish judiciary hasn't indicted Kissinger and Cheney, yet?
Want to exercise universal jurisdiction and crimes against humanity, Your Honor? We'll be glad to testify and cooperate in any action against real mass murderers.
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bherrera Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:49 PM
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4. Possibly because ETA is a terrorist organization in Spain
And they like to blow us up. Focus, focus, focus. I am amused by the way you guys tried to divert attention when things get a little controversial for your heroes with clay feet.
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:48 PM
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2. Uribe is a thug and Chavez is too
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:07 PM
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9. Um, one of them is implicated with narco trafficking,
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 07:07 PM by EFerrari
tying his government to paramilitary death squads and mass graves. Chavez isn't.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:49 PM
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3. Christ, this article is from March


From your cite:

Page last updated at 14:47 GMT, Monday, 1 March 2010

What exactly is your agenda here?

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:47 PM
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5. "NO EVIDENCE" of Venezuelan gov't involvement--Spanish Interior Minister
October 07, 2010

VHeadline News Editor Patrick J. O'Donoghue reports:

In the continuing row between Spain and Venezuela about ETA activities in Venezuela, Spanish Interior Minister, Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba has declared that there is no evidence of any relation between President Chavez' government and the Basque separatist group ETA.

Perez Rubalcaba said the revelation made by two captured ETA members to (Spanish) Judge Ismael Moreno that they had received training in Venezuela does not implicate any awareness on the part of President Chavez.

Apparently, the source of ETA training in Venezuela comes from the now infamous and dodgy hard disks found on laptops recovered after a Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) camp was bombed by the Colombian Army in Ecuador and rebel leader, Raul Reyes was killed.

Venezuelan opposition journalists have used the alleged source as conclusive proof of government connivance and collaboration with the ETA and FARC.

A Basque refugee organization in Venezuela has supported statements from Venezuelan Ambassador to Spain, Isaias Rodriguez, who hinted that the two men had possibly been subject to torture to obtain a confession aimed at damaging Spanish-Venezuelan relations.


(MORE)

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=97308

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Spain downplays claims of Venezuela's links with ETA (3rd Roundup)
Oct 5, 2010, 19:14 GMT

Madrid/Caracas - Spanish Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba late Tuesday downplayed earlier allegations that the Venezuelan government had links with the militant Basque separatist group ETA. (SNIP) ...there was no evidence whatsoever of the Venezuelan government being involved in the training, the minister stressed.
(MORE)
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1589300.php/Spain-downplays-claims-of-Venezuela-s-links-with-ETA-3rd-Roundup

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05 Oct 2010

...no evidence whatsoever...


http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/347338,claims-venezuelas-links-eta.html

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Spain Dissociates Venezuelan Government from ETA Activity

Madrid, Oct 6 (RHC-PL) Spain dissociated the Venezuelan government from alleged training of members of the Basque armed organization ETA in Venezuelan territory.

In statements to reporters in the Senate, Spanish Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba stated there is no evidence relating or linking the Venezuelan government with such matter.


http://www.radiohc.cu/ingles/a_noticiasdelmundo/10/octubre/6/mundo12.htm

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March 13th 2010

US military have no evidence of Venezuela, FARC and ETA links

The chief of the US military's Southern Command, General Douglas Fraser, said during a hearing before the US Senate that he had no evidence of links between Venezuela, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), a Colombian guerrilla group and the Basque separatist group ETA.


http://en.mercopress.com/2010/03/13/us-military-have-no-evidence-of-venezuela-farc-and-eta-links

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U.S. General Sees No Links Between Venezuela, Terror Groups

http://laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=353656&CategoryId=10718
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:12 PM
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6. As we see now, and see reflected in articles from last spring, these charges are cyclical,
get hauled out every 6 months or so, alternating with other repeating charges, any and all of them used to keep the noise against leftist Presidents going.

They used to do it to death with Cuba, one after another after another during George W. Bush's occupation of the White House. Now they're doing it to Hugo Chavez more.

Pathetic, grotesque, only a fool would swallow this bilge.

Thanks for taking the time to post the ones we've seen one this particular charge from this year! You can be sure we'll see it and the others again next year in roughly 6 month intervals.

Sad, sad, sad. It's designed for those with attention deficit who don't recognize we've seen it all before, over and over again.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:29 PM
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7. YUP! You gotta wonder about an OP from way back on March 1. No recent crapola
so they just reiterate past crapola over and over again, until the BBCons and other corpo-fascist 'news' sources provide them with fresh crapola, hot and steamy from their corporate bosses' latrines.

:puke:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:06 PM
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8. LOL
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