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Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:04 AM Original message |
The avowed ENEMIES of Social Security have been trying to peddle a "payroll tax holiday" for YEARS: |
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hlthe2b
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. I wish I could rec this about a thousand more times... |
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Marr
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Oh, they see it just fine. |
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DrDan
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. perhaps they do |
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BadgerKid
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Fri Dec-10-10 05:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I must admit |
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Kalun D
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. Sort of Tells You |
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TheKentuckian
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. Of course |
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True_Blue
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. K&R |
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Hannah Bell
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Fri Dec-10-10 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. and now they got it. it's the usual way that workers are cozened into something that's bad for them |
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customerserviceguy
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
9. I'm glad to see more people here are 'getting it' when it comes to this so-called holiday |
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Liberalynn
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. there are still people defending it |
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Liberalynn
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. self deleted dupe |
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TheFarseer
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
10. Anything the Club for Growth wants |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Grover Norquist: "STARVING THE BEAST": |
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Martin Eden
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Is Obama a willing or unwitting accomplice to the Norquist strategy? |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Obama's words indicate fear and loathing of the rebellious 60's, of which he learned from afar. |
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Martin Eden
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. That doesn't answer my question. |
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Matt Shapiro
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Sat Dec-11-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Unfortunately ... |
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WinkyDink
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Sun Dec-12-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
80. Like I'm supposed to know Obama better than you do? |
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Martin Eden
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Sun Dec-12-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I refer you to post #48 ... |
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Foo Fighter
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Sat Dec-11-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
65. Hey Grover, the government doesn't "fund" Social Security. The taxpayers do. |
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AzDar
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
11. K & R |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
12. I'm rapidly getting sick to my stomach at what has happened to MY PARTY, the defenders of UNIONS, |
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Supersedeas
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. blind affilitation to the politics of personal identification and celebrity trumps democratic |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. (Meant to type "SOCIAL." Too late to edit.) |
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Poboy
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
14. Thank you Faryn Balyncd. I've missed your posts. Recommend. |
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indimuse
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
15. KNR! n/t |
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Little Star
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
16. And it takes a Democratic President to give it to them. UGH!!! |
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B Calm
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
60. About as bad as Clinton giving in on NAFTA |
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TBF
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
17. I find this the most troubling aspect of the "deal" - they are set to defund Social Security. nt |
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myrna minx
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
18. K&R. Thank you for this very important post. |
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Enthusiast
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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Starry Messenger
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
20. k&r |
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Enthusiast
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
21. K&R |
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reformist2
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
22. Can we get 41 senators to filibuster this - this year and next??? |
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jtown1123
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
24. Use this # 1 800 998 0180 to call your Reps Today to fight this |
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slipslidingaway
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
25. knr - great links. n/t |
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me b zola
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
27. K&R |
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somone
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
28. Indeed, this is a well-known poison pill - to kill Social Security |
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Better Believe It
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
29. Anyone who votes for this Social Security tax cut plan is an enemy of Social Security. |
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Poboy
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
30. kick |
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Poboy
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Fri Dec-10-10 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. . |
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blindpig
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Fri Dec-10-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
32. k&r |
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ljm2002
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Fri Dec-10-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. The payrool tax holiday is truly the worst provision... |
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nashville_brook
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Fri Dec-10-10 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. Big f'n k n r |
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sasha031
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Fri Dec-10-10 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. that's right...been going on for yrs |
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hay rick
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
39. K&R |
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Curmudgeoness
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
40. Sure, give me another $10 in my paycheck this year, take my retirement. |
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scarletwoman
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
41. K&R - this is SO IMPORTANT! |
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valerief
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Fri Dec-10-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
42. Two minutes in, Andy Griffith and Sen Worthington Fuller talk about Social Security |
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sirthomas66
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I can bring my axe and my gun and come to Washington to cut |
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valerief
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Some, ah, John Birch trees maybe. nt |
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ProudDad
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. And then he calls this part of it a "stimulus" |
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valerief
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. When the wealthy clean house, they don't leave a nickel behind, do they? nt |
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Poboy
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Looking at 'what we got', 45% are those damned slit our own throat cuts. |
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JDPriestly
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. We don't really get the payroll tax cut. |
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FailureToCommunicate
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. kick |
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Politicub
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Fri Dec-10-10 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
49. What galls me is that no one was calling for a Social Security payroll contribution cut |
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frylock
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
50. i'm concerned over the absence of certain posters.. |
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bhikkhu
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. Stupidest idea with the worst long-term consequences |
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Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. It's the largest item, the most consequential, & the LEAST PUBLICLY TALKED ABOUT. |
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dkf
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Fri Dec-10-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
55. Austen Goolsbee says studies show it is the most efficient tax cut there is. |
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bhikkhu
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Free money is a fine stimulus. Taking it out of your retirement is lousy. |
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dkf
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Sat Dec-11-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Goolsbee took Larry Summers place...he is the President's main economic adviser. |
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bhikkhu
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Sat Dec-11-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Well....now I'm fairly sure he's an idiot who needs to stay out of politics. n/t |
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Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Isn't the issue more consequential than strictly what form of stimulus may be effective? |
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dkf
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Sat Dec-11-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. SS isn't a retirement fund. |
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bhikkhu
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Sat Dec-11-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Define insurance. SS isn't that. |
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Divernan
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Sat Dec-11-10 02:01 AM Response to Reply #55 |
70. Could have given a one time cash grant like last year's $250 to the seniors. |
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dkf
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Sat Dec-11-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. My sister and her family alone will get more than 10x that |
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madfloridian
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. Thank you for this. It's a devastating thing to do. |
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daleanime
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
57. Shhhh..... |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
59. Yes they have...."Starve the Beast"....google it |
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amborin
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
61. K&R |
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SemperEadem
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Fri Dec-10-10 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
62. I wonder if there is a way to still instruct HR to take that 2% and put it into my SS |
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customerserviceguy
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Sat Dec-11-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Do you have a 401K where you work? |
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SemperEadem
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Sun Dec-12-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. I have a 503b... good idea--thanks! |
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Lugnut
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Sat Dec-11-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
66. K & f'n R! n/t |
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laughingliberal
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Sat Dec-11-10 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
67. Their tactics are reprehensible. Wait til the unemployed are in crisis and sneak this in. |
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leftstreet
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Sat Dec-11-10 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
69. K&R |
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senseandsensibility
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Sat Dec-11-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
77. kick, but it's too late to rec! |
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Poboy
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Sat Dec-11-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
78. kick |
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