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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:27 AM Original message |
Most of you, I see, still buy into the illusion of a democracy. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why would you get banned? You're only saying, eloquently, what a lot of us have said for years. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I hope so. Although I'm not sure how much longer free speech on the |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. They tolerate these sites because they're a necessary pressure-relief valve for discontent. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
76. We're also useful for when elected Democrats want to impress Republicans. They can insult us and... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. +1,000 |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Zappa was prescient. He saw things as they are long before... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Yep. Carlin is another one. Remember this rant? |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
77. I don't remember this rant, but I do remember, love and miss George Carlin. |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
85. I love the end to that Carlin speech |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
115. Love Carlin ... and always amazed that anyone is watching anything on TV still.... |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
108. But here is the wild card from the universe to those who "think" they have control |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #108 |
135. I am totally with you. Are you open to suggestions? Please pm me. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
120. At end of Cold War -- as they were reducing Russia back to third world status .... |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
73. Do not fear - proxy, proxy, proxy!! |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
133. We don't always have free speech here. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. And years... and years... and years.. .and years... |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Strawberry Newtons are good too. They really amplify the self-delusion and |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Eloquent? Maybe, if the OP is by a third grader |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. Prove him wrong then, Andy. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. Your little dig is so mature too |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
78. The irony impairment is strong in that one. nt |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. You are right, ad hominems are soooo fourth grade. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
84. I look forward to reading your well-reasoned and eloquent rebuttal. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
116. But, but the Sky IS Falling, dontcha know? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:15 AM Response to Reply #116 |
136. You had better duck. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
117. But, but the Sky IS Falling, dontcha know? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. I have to get up early and go work at my slave job tomorrow; please kick. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. but, at least I have a job, which many cannot say. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. Your lexicon of extremity and self indulgence made me find a |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. If you were really interested in meaning and not the easy and quick red herring... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. peace everyone? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I believe the economic problems attendant to globalization are unprecedented in their severity, |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. now that I can find some agreement with |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. The system is a snake devouring its own tail. If there was anything that the Wall Street meltdown |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
125. I dont think you have been paying attention to what's happening in our country. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Yep. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
42. A person has to be able to articulate what the problem is |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
7. then there's really not much point to this message board is there? |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. I feel the same way |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. Politics is theater, not governance is the way I say it. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
13. They Thought They Were Free |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I've thought about that for a long time! |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
114. excellent quote from an excellent book |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
134. Thnks for posting, This is now a must read. nt |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. Democracy is dead. |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. Illusion compared to what? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. See, you have some perspective |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. I'm not persuaded by your argument, zigzagzed... |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. It's good to see a vigorous debate |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
129. Thanks for the link to the brilliant article! |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
64. Illusion does not imply comparisson... |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
79. I disagree. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. You seem to have misunderstood my point... |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Objection withdrawn |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. Enjoying the posts and reading your arguments |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
82. Delete |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:53 AM Response to Original message |
18. Believe me I'm no longer under that illusion |
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cutlassmama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R. very eleoquently put. Wow |
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LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
22. K&R. The only bright side to peak oil (which will start making itself felt very soon) is |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That's an interesting concept. But I fear that, by the time that happens... |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
24. yup. never agreed until now |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
27. If you get banned.... |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. We have the democracy we deserve, a lousy and badly broken one nt |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
29. Welcome to reality-but their is hope |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
137. Well said. Despite the PTB votes matter which is why faux exists. nt |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
30. I believe you are absolutely right. We have seen it die. Well said. n/t |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
31. I don't ..... at all. |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
32. I agree 100% |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
34. Sadly,I could not agree more, |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
35. Jerry Brown defeated Meg Whitman in the California Governor's race |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. Awesome... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
113. Great point Nye. n/t |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
37. Joe, it's not the democracy - it's the capitalism. It is killing all of us. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
40. Hey Joe, do you have a dictionary? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
67. Technically, you should be asking if he has a math book. No? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
140. What you got out of it is that Joe was talking about ONE show? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
43. I wonder what Pres. Obama really thinks about democracy now |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. I will agree there is vast dysfunction |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
138. +1 |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. could we get a little sweet talk first? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
47. Get Up Stand Up |
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Saxon (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
97. We live in Babylon |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
48. So, will this all come to a boil |
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FlyByNight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. Empires fail |
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AmandaMae (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
50. I don't; it's a corporate plutocracy. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. As George Carlin said "This country was bought and sold a long time ago. It's a big club |
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marew (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
53. This I know. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. well, you sure like his education agenda |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
55. Yeah! Nihilism is so cool! |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Wow, you're a real pro at this trolling thing, aren't you? nt |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. That word "nihilism" does not mean what you think it does... |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
59. why should you be banned |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. You have summed up what I have been saying for years. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
61. Rich machiavellian sociopath corporatist's have destroyed the USA. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
66. I agree with you; we've been lied to all our lives about this vaunted "republic" |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. OK. So it would be totally impossible for a long-shot minority candidate |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
101. It is always possible to elect a slick liar. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
69. If voting changed anything they would make it illegal. --Emma Goldman |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
71. Well if you're banned, might as well ban me too. |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
72. You are hardly alone in feeling this way. I've vented a fair amount |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
74. K&R n/t |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
75. K & R nt |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
80. Lots of us would have been banned by now if banning were what Skinner is about. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
81. Not me. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
83. Oh for Christ's sake |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Elegance in brevity (n/t) |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. By your standards, the US is better than Burundi or Columbia or |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. That's the beauty of ever dropping standards... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. "love it or leave it" crap has been posted here on DU. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #88 |
107. I'm of the mind of loving it and trying to change it for the better |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. +1 perfectly said. n/t |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. There's a difference |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. That's not what you said. |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Being realistic isn't lowering the bar |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. It is when you compare an'other' to US. |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
112. More perfect compared to what? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #112 |
121. I would so love to get you in one of my classes. You have degraded the very definition of sophistry |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. god I hate your babble. |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. Thanks Frank. |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
90. K&R - Reminds me of the " Allegory of the Cave". |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
92. Here's the thing: it has NEVER mattered. |
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zigzagzed (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Agree (n/t) |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
100. I don't appreciate either of your attitudes |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #100 |
126. Sometimes you gotta say what's true... |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
102. I agree, K&R n/t |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
104. Don't give up. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
105. I am always interested when I see posts like this... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
106. Not for a long time |
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timdog44 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
109. democratic illusion |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
118. We only ever had a dream of a democracy ... for one thing you can't have democracy .... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
119. Some tough thoughts indeed. But as my dad used to tell me, we've always thought the end was nigh. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #119 |
128. Yes, but then came FDR. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #128 |
139. And that *is* the problem. I expected to see an FDR here... |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
122. Thanks to all the posters... |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
124. I cry with you, Joe Fields |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
127. We Have Hope as Long as the Constitution Exists... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #127 |
132. Then you always have hope, because the truths found in the Constitution |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
130. Well written. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #130 |
141. Let me add to your list. |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
131. Not Democracy, it's a Plutocracy |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
142. I cried some time ago. I've traversed the stages of grief. No more tears. nt |
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