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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:06 AM
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Tom Tomorrow: Afghanistan-We must stay the course-Only a frivolous nincompoop could disagree.
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 09:07 AM by kpete
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:10 AM
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1. KRnth
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:19 AM
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2. Only the frivolous nincompoop that took us to war
in the first place.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:20 AM
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3. i'll take tom tomorrow over obama any day of the week. nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 01:39 PM
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21. Ain't it the truth. n/t
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:36 PM
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50. The cartoonist is a genius that cuts to the quick of reality. nt
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 10:37 PM by PufPuf23
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:24 AM
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4. What do I know? I would have probably spent it on
beer pot and ice cream.

I'm just a 'nincompoop' I guess but jobs, green energy and education
sound OK too!



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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:41 AM
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6. The minute I saw that toon, I knew


DU had a new icon.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:45 AM
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7. Me Three! LOL!
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 09:54 AM by Ichingcarpenter


I suspect we will have some relevant posts by a Loco on the new mascot.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:04 AM
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9. Eg
Zoccoly.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:10 PM
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25. See #24. -nt
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 02:26 PM
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23. But he's not sensible! n/t

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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 06:50 PM
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31. And I'm a "professional leftist" nincompoop.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:35 AM
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5. Tom Tomorrow hits it out of the park. Again. nt
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:49 AM
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8. I wonder how many people have been killed.. (Troops, Civilians) plus..
...monies stolen, lives destroyed from lost jobs, no health care... in order to "Keep us Safe"
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:07 AM
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10. "You can't make a freedom omelet without breaking some civilian eggs!"
K&R.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:14 AM
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66. Oh Yeah, best line in the toon. n/t
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rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:31 AM
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11. Staying the Course is the only
sensible thing to do...only sensible thing to do...sensible thing to do...thing to do...to do...do...doodoo...doodoo...
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:35 AM
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12. knr...how did it come to this?
...that liars and frauds and idiots are the ones who should be taken seriously?
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:39 AM
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13. They will squable over a few billion but don't give a fuck about a trillion...
going to the Pentagon.

Defense-related expenditures outside of the Department of Defense constitute between $216 billion and $361 billion in additional spending, bringing the total for defense spending to between $880 billion and $1.03 trillion in fiscal year 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_Uni...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:48 AM
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15. Ah....Just Another frivolous nincompoop
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 10:50 AM by Ichingcarpenter
That would rather spend trillions on people, jobs, infrastructure and the environment.









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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 06:55 PM
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32. You are not being serious...
:)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:46 AM
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14. I like that Serious Guy, he has a strong jawline
The jaw and specifically the chin, as we learned in school, is known to scientists as the Seat of Reason.

The way Serious Guy strokes his chin, you just know Reason is squatting all over that jaw.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 02:24 PM
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22. Perhaps he could explain what the objectives were
After 9 years, I've forgotten.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 06:59 PM
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33. It was either...
To make them love us for our freedoms, get Osama Bin Forgotten, stabilize the region, or make freedom omelets (sans bacon, of course)- I can't remember which. But then, I'm just not sensible and serious ;)
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:37 AM
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61. oh oh oh i know what the objective was
Fight 'em over thar so they don't fight us over here!

-90% jimmy
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:49 PM
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75. That's it!
Just yesterday, as I was walking near the Ocean, I saw one of the Afghani mujaheddin trying to swim ashore with a knife in his teeth!

:scared:
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:38 PM
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42. The objective is
another 9 years.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:58 PM
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43. Family Guy has the same chin. nt
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:54 AM
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16. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:42 AM
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17. Why, that's crazy talk.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:24 PM
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18. WOW. My wing of the Democratic Party is GROWING!
K&R


---bvar22
FDR Democrat


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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 08:02 PM
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37. Indeed ...FDR 2012. n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:25 PM
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46. We're the Old Democrats.
Kicking New Democrat ass daily.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 12:55 PM
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19. K&R. For the "Frivolous Nincompoops". n/t
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 01:14 PM
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20. Military rule is all Iraq got from US.
Seriously.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:07 PM
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24. AVATAR TIME!
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:13 PM
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27. I like it!!!
I'm tempted to change mine! :hi:
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 08:40 PM
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41. done
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:11 PM
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26. K & R nt
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:14 PM
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28. Fantastic!!!
K&R
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 05:50 PM
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29. K&R
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 06:49 PM
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30. Uh-oh.
Where's the imitation groundhog brigade?

Heads exploding in 5...4...3....2........
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 07:05 PM
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34. K&R
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 07:05 PM
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35. dupe, free kick
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 07:06 PM by me b zola
:)
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 07:39 PM
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36. I correspond... when I can stand it... with a rightwinger.
Dumber than a box of rocks. He sent me a viral email complaining about the Universal Access Fee on phone bills to pay for free cell phones for the poor.

I looked at my bill.... 41 cents a month. And the comm company should be absorbing the cost, but the fucking Communications Act lets them weasel out of it.

I asked the guy if the 41 cents was so obnoxious, how about the hundreds of billions flushed down the bowl in Afghanistan.

He said... this is priceless... That he'd rather spend the money on the Afghans than the poor.

Jesus Fucking Christ.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 08:16 PM
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38. That nincompoop needs a drug test!
;)
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:49 AM
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63. Drug tests cost about $50
Or, that's what the company the I worked for, which was supposed to pay for them, charged me to pay for them... but they would've claimed it was for something else if I ever tried to call them on it... because employers are usually scumbags.

Just FYI for all the folks that haven't had to actually pony up the piss for a bureaucrat who decides you need to be drug tested... good times!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 08:25 PM
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39. Great cartoon
Could have recycled the wood chuck - it would have been fun for that to be a running theme. But still great.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 08:35 PM
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40. K&R
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:07 PM
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44. knr
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:18 PM
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45. Tom Tomorrow redefines words.
First "sensible" becomes smug idiot.

Now "serious" will mean "asshole".
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:28 PM
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47. Don't be so sensible.
I'm serious.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:42 AM
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60. Sort of like how...
On the right, "Intellectual" means god-hating know-nothing, and "Empathy" means stupid and weak.

Nice to see our team is as happy to dig into the tough of anti-intellectualism. Why, I'm SURE it'll suit our goals so well!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:54 AM
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64. Pretty powerful device, eh?
Gets the point across.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:32 PM
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48. Razor Meets Beard!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:34 PM
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49. What happened to Chuck the Sensible Woodchuck?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:05 PM
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53. Tom Tomorrow needed a new straw man. Chuckles felt he wasn't getting paid enough
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:25 PM
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55. -1,000,000
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:39 AM
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59. Don't ask if you don't want an answer. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:33 PM
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56. One trillion dollars wasted on the War on Terror
That's some sensible change!
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:38 AM
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58. So, it's all about the bottom line, then?
I mean so what if handing the country back to the murderous fundamentalists on a silver platter ends up with a lot of dead people, a failed, starving state, and the absolute guarantee that we'll be back in a decade, it'll save us a couple bucks in the short term, right?
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:52 AM
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67. Or??
Let's see: we already have lots of dead people and a failed, starving state, a murdereous fundamentalists - which, btw, the last two we also have here!
We're one year short of a one decade now.

But yeah, I guess so. Let's stay the course. Afghanistan will make a lovely 51st state! Think of all that poppy - enough to supply every bagel store in America with unlimited seeds! We all know how effective we are at curtailing heroin use - so no problem there.
And that pipeline is probably a good idea also - we may need that to fuel ships that bring us stuff from Asia.

We have to fight them there so we don't fight them over here, anyway. And we're already there - we'll save at least on the airfare.
Yeah. Good idea!


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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 11:05 AM
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71. Isn't that what we have to hear?
I mean when we want increases in education or universal single payer healthcare insurance?

The answer I get from the conservadems ends up being "what???!! Another entitlement program??!!"

But I suppose all the people that died without healthcare or that are consigned to impoverished and poorly functioning schools don't deserve help. Instead we can privatize the schools... I mean what could possibly go wrong?


Is this charachature a straw man? It's a damned cartoon! what the hell do you think a cartoon is going to truck in? Still I have heard little real reason for our continued occupation and we are still tight allies with those countries that screwed up Afghanistan in the first place (see also: Pakistan and Suadi Arabia)
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 11:18 AM
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72. I should have said:
Isn't that what us progressives have always heard?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:26 PM
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73. I don't see you running to your Army recruiter to enlist
Very brave to talk about war that someone else has to fight!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:55 AM
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65. He's posting on DU. n/t
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:52 PM
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51. In the 5 wars since WWII
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 10:54 PM by Gman
The US has won 2 (Desert Storm and probably Iraq), lost 2, (Viet Nam & Afghanistan), and tied 1 (Korea). Pretty sorry record

And the defense industry made hundreds of billions.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:00 PM
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52. Not bad.
Tom is better when he isn't attacking the left.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:51 PM
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74. Fortunately for us, he doesn't do that.
He does, however, write some great cartoons that lambaste centrist triangulation.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:30 PM
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76. We've seen the fruits of his straw-man attacks on the left
here at DU. I would like to see the progressive movement grow in numbers. Tom apparently believes it's better to shrink the movement by excluding and attacking anyone who doesn't think Obama is a complete failure in every way. That does nothing to help the movement.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:03 PM
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77. Tom Tomorrow isn't attacking Leftists, and certainly not Progressives.
He's excoriating Centrists for their "sensible" triangulation and "pragmatism." He's been doing that since the Bush years. Did you never see his posts on DU during that time? They were posted frequently.

Look, you can call an apple an orange if you want, but that doesn't give you the right to suddenly claim that William Tell shot an orange off his son's head. Bending the meaning of words to the point at which they break isn't helpful to anyone but an avowed propagandist.

Why not simply say, "Tomorrow was attacking Centrists. I'm a Centrist. I took offense." :shrug:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:14 PM
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78. No, he specifically attacked liberals by name.
Check the woodchuck cartoon. He calls the woodchuck a sensible liberal. He's attacking liberals who don't past the litmus test of attacking Obama as much as he does. He's forming the circular firing squad.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:29 PM
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79. Of course Chuckles calls himself a "sensible liberal." That's the joke!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

Please, whatever you do, avoid reading Rabelais, Swift, Twain, or Heller! These dangerous authors do not come with a warning label!

You should probably avoid watching Stephen Colbert, too. Hint: He's not really a Bush-loving Republican.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 02:23 AM
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81. There's an attempt to redefine liberal
in terms of how much someone attacks Obama. It's happening more often on DU. Tom is suggesting that those who don't attack Obama virulently enough don't belong in his progressive club. They don't deserve to be called good liberals in his mind. There's something very ugly about that.
It's only a joke if it's funny. There's no intelligent satire to it. It's just a strawman.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 01:53 PM
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82. You should ask someone to explain the Chuckles cartoons to you.
Because you have completely missed the point.

Best of luck. :hi:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:54 PM
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80. Also, look at the current cartoon in the OP.
Do you really think the character self-identifying as a "frivolous nincompoop" should be taken at face value?

Do you think Tomorrow is really attacking frivolous nincompoops here? :shrug:

C'mon. Satire has been around for millennia. This should have been covered by your English language/literature courses in secondary school. If not, I'm happy to speak as an expert witness if you decide to sue your school district.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 11:09 PM
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54. sad and miserably true... we are a nation of asshats with no sense of purpose or mission that
defines us anymore... except for negatives. yuk.  
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 01:07 AM
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57.  Brilliant!
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:37 AM
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62. must fight urge to change name to frivolous nincompoop....
however, i wonder if i can make a miss america sash of that?!
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:03 AM
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68. I swear if I ever met Tom Tomorrow
I would plant a big wet kiss right on that brilliant mouth....and I am strait.
He never disappoints me.
K&R
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CocaNova Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:12 AM
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69. That's cool !
:hippie:
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:28 AM
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70. rofl
Put me down as a nincompoop too. Mr. Serious might be serious but he isn't very bright.
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