Honor Roll is evil? Lou Engle says that letter grades are the Mark of the Beast

[ck4829]

Is your child on honor roll? Is he or she doing their homework every night and studying? Good, right?

Hold on there!

Your child is actually taking the first steps in service of SATAN!!!!

You need to take your child out of school right NOW, soak him or her with holy water, and dump that child in an ex-gay camp to get the demons out.

This is all according to one of the top gurus of the Christian Right, Lou Engle.

"Christian students will be forced to take a stand. "We're in the days of Daniel. ... You've got to trust that God will bring you divine promotion when you refuse to bow down to the image," he said. "To compromise for the sake of getting a grade, you're practicing to receive the mark of the beast."

"In other words, if you can't stand in this day, how are you going to stand when the real pressure heats up?" Engle continued. "We're going to find out who the real Christians are."

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/engle-universities-are-teaching-students-accept-mark-beast

If you're not encouraging your child to flunk, then you fail as a parent. 'Nuff said.

[guitar man]

1. translation

"You need to keep your kids stupid enough to buy the shit I'm shoveling"

oh brother :eyes:

[47of74]

3. An educated populace is a threat to conservatives

[Warpy]

15. It's a special threat to religious patriarchs

because the one thing a control freak can't withstand is any questioning, at all.

[timtom]

27. Like they really stress critical thinking

in school, these days...

[uncommon]

2. WTF

[ProdigalJunkMail]

4. you might want to re-read that...

or at least show a little intellectual integrity...

sP

[uncommon]

7. PJM is right -- this is about a very specific case in which a student was asked to perform a task

that she felt violated her practice of her religion.

The d-bag fundies are still wrong (if you want to practice in certain professional capacities, you need to be prepared to adhere to the rules) but it reads differently than the OP presented it.

[backscatter712]

12. Yep. In this case, a fundie going through counseling training refused to counsel a gay patient.

And rightly got booted from the program.

So Lou Engle and all the other fundies are howling right now.

[Warpy]

18. It's a good thing she was dismissed because that's a large part

of any family counseling practice. I have a friend who's an MSW/family counselor who verifies this easily. Often a counselor has to wade through a lot of surface BS to get to the fact that suspecting (or having confirmed) that a family member is gay is the real problem that brought them all in.

There's plenty she can do with a degree in social work that doesn't involve working with the sinful gay population, like finding nursing home beds and setting up home care. Shoot, she can also work with her church, finding services for members who need them. There's a hell of a lot out there that needs to be done.

People who are that prissy about a rather large segment of the human population are simply not cut out to be good, impartial counselors.

[dsc]

5. that really seems out of context

I hate defending nuts like him but I suspect he was saying you shouldn't compromise your beliefs in order to get grades not that you should flunk on purpose.

[ck4829]

9. Putting anything and "practicing to receive the mark of the beast" together is off the deep end

Yeah, it might seem out of context, but coming from the same guy who lobbied Uganda to keep the kill-the-gays bill, what can you expect in the way of sanity?

[TlalocW]

6. Something tells me that...

Either Engle was a crappy student, or he's got a kid who's one. :)

TlalocW

[no_hypocrisy]

8. Can't have some kids smarter than others, huh?

[UndertheOcean]

10. you got to be kidding me !!

[Bitwit1234]

11. Course the religious nuts and the tea bags and the republicans

want dumb kids. The dumber they are the more they will believe the crap spewed by Fox and Rush and all the other right wing wackso. That's is why they are fighting education so hard.

[gratuitous]

13. Let's see . . .

In my time, the Mark of the Beast has been, variously, credit cards, social security numbers, drivers licenses, tax returns, tax withholdings, tax refunds (unless they're immediately signed over to someone else, and you can guess who that is), buyers club cards, store discounts, and now letter grades in schools.

I'm sure I've forgotten a few.

[Dogtown]

17. Tatoos, of course

Except to the hipster young fundies that have angels and other mythological creatures inked on their flesh.

[gratuitous]

21. Oh yeah, tattoos for sure

At least up until the time they became popular, when a new dispensation determined that tats were allowable. Oh, and don't forget to put a little somethin' in the offering plate when it comes down your row.

[UrbScotty]

14. There's still hope for me then!

[malaise]

16. Ignorance is truly bliss to these morons

I'm running out of patience.

[MineralMan]

19. Ah...you know...that isn't what your link is talking about, now

is it? The fundies are bad enough. There's no need to stretch things to make a point. This was about a student counselor who was kicked out of the program in which she was enrolled for failing to properly counsel a gay student. It has nothing to do with grades or honor rolls. Stick to the issue stated in the article you linked to, and you'll still have a great story. Try to turn it into something it is not spoils your effort.

We don't need to stretch the truth to find things to condemn about fundies. There's ample fodder already for that purpose.

[Joanne98]

20. He's a psycho

[KeepCongressBlue]

22. book larnin' is the numba #1 cause of atheism n/t

:fistbump:

[EstimatedProphet]

23. Hey, it's not like any fundy kids are on the honor roll anyway...

[davidinalameda]

24. I think you misunderstood what the article is saying

it's talking about compromising one's beliefs for the sake of a grade being wrong, not getting the grade

[damntexdem]

25. The only way to be holy is to be ignorant.

Well, it's the only way for Engle-style religion to prosper.

[Igel]

26. Amazing.

The sheer number of people who hear the preacher say, "Ain't they idiots?" and in response reflexively shout out, "Amen, brother!" without actually engaging their frontal cortexes at all.

Some are in fundamentalist churches. It's nice to believe that's where almost all of them are.

Apparently a hefty percentage are far closer.

Like that's a surprise.

[LWolf]

28. I'm not fond of letter grades,

but it has nothing to do with SATAN.

Of course, teaching students to think and question, or to approach information in an unbiased way, is also a mark of Satan. :eyes: