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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:42 PM
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Florida 'Church' Plans To Burn Korans On 9/11
On September 11, members of the Dove World Outreach Center -- a Gainsville, Florida church -- plan to burn copies of the Koran to commemorate the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. The protest is just the latest in a series of provocative actions from the self-described "New Testament Church," which seems as interested in getting attention as it is in sharing the Word with the world. Unfortunately, their plan seems to have worked -- and local investigators have begun probing the church's tax-exempt status after reports that Dove World Outreach Center is essentially a scam.

The church, which was founded in 1986, has long been controversial in Gainsville. The Koran-burning protest is just the latest in a string of high-profile "protests on other issues, such as homosexuality, same-sex marriage, and abortion," Religion News Service reports. But it seems clear that taking on Muslims is the one of the church's central goals. The church's leader, Dr. Terry Jones -- who before heading up the Dove World Outreach Center ran a sister church in Cologne, Germany -- has published a book entitled "Islam is of the Devil" and posted a large sign outside his church that offers passing commuters the same message. Last year, members sent their kids to public schools wearing "Islam Is Of The Devil" t-shirts (the students were sent home, creating more headlines.) The church's website features a number of videos where Jones takes on Islam as...well, you can probably guess.

But as the Gainsville Sun reports, there is one thing Jones likes doing more than burning books -- and that's making money. Sun reporter Megan Rolland delved into the church's numerous for-profit business interests and found a church that local officials say may be violating its tax-exempt status.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/gainsville_church_plans_to_burn_korans_on_911_mean.php?ref=fpb
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:43 PM
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1. "Dove World Outreach"
You can't make this stuff up.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:44 PM
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4. My first thought ... "Outreach" ... really??
"Out of Touch" more likely.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:43 PM
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2. Mighty Christian of'em.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:21 PM
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16. Yep - book burning is a long-standing tradition in the faith. So they really are being so. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:44 PM
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3. Well..isn't that special.......What a bunch of ignorant schmucks.
:puke:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:46 PM
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5. Aww...it's like a Westboro Baptist, Jr. Ain't it cute.
:eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:47 PM
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6. They'd be the first to shit holy gold bricks if someone did that to the Bible...
Idiots. Clueless fucking idiots. This is why there are religious issues in the world, because of nutjob extremists. Leave their religion alone and how dare you try to keep it out of your government, but let's shit on every other religion in the world, shall we? And forbid them to do unto us as we do unto them.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:56 PM
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43. if anyone lives in the area i have an idea pm me
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:48 PM
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7. christains, my ass
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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:58 PM
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35. indeed it is
antichrist
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:51 PM
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8. Just some more shit
to make America look as ridiculous as possible. He is only doing this to inflame our predjudices that some feel towards the Islam faith and Muslims. Bad move and seems to be a bad church. Forgive them for they know exactly what they do.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:55 PM
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9. That name activated my failing memory
because I know they've been in the news before. Sure enough:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/14/gainesville-mayor/ "No Homo Mayor*" sign on the front, along with "Islam is of the Devil!"

A review from a critic: http://www.yelp.com/biz/dove-world-outreach-center-gainesville

Pastor's daughter sent home from school for a hate T-shirt: http://www.amp-oneb.ghazali.net/html/teaching_hate.html (unfortunately, the ACLU has taken this one on. It's one they need to lose. Hate has no place in public schools)

Sapp is a well known fulminator, agitator, and general asshole for Jebus.


* I'm happy to say the "homo" mayoral candidate WON.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:00 PM
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10. I didn't think faux xtians could get any more hateful than Westboro.
I was wrong.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:01 PM
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11. More childish my god is beter than your god crap n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:54 PM
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28. To quote George Carlin - "My god has a bigger dick than your god!"
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:05 PM
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12. As the Taliban gears up to destroy some more Buddha statues
Im truly angry God didn't put me on the sane planet instead of earth
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:12 PM
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13. A Florida version of Westboro Baptist Church
How nice!
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:13 PM
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14. So, do they usually burn doves as burnt offerings?
I wonder what they'd think of a mosque burning copies of the Bible.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:15 PM
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15. Now THAT will accomplish something!
(:sarcasm: of course)
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:24 PM
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17.  And where is the condemnation from the "real" Christian churches?
They're all worshipping "Our Lady of Don't Make Waves".

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:30 PM
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21. No, they're all consistently ignored by the media.
There will be many who will speak out about this, but they will be relegated to doing so on their facebook pages and other places because even if the denomination headquarters send out press releases or hold protests or do other stuff, the media won't give a shit.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:26 PM
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18. Florida is one SICK STATE
Get me the hell out of here.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:27 PM
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20. If it wasn't for the humidity, traffic, and long restaurant lines, I'd be outta here.

:P

and

:hi:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:26 PM
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19. Most churches not affiliated with a denomination are scams.
I know, some will argue that ALL churches are scams... but amongst the world of the religious, it's pretty obvious that independent churches are, with rare exceptions, started on the basis of ego of the pastor and are more cult than church.

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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:30 PM
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22. smooth move, exlax
i'm speechless,
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:33 PM
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23. Wee! A good old fashioned Nazi style book burning. What could be more American!
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:40 PM
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24. Evangalicals are having a hard time raising the tons of cash they were
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 05:43 PM by snagglepuss
used to getting bfeore the economy tanked. These contemptible asshats have decided that fanning the flames of hate pays cash dividends.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:49 PM
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25. And the Freeper discussion on this roves why the Rethugs are not fit to govern.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:07 PM
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26. What a vile cesspool of ignorance and sheer hate that site is. It's so nauseating that I avoid it...
But every now and then I'll slip and take a quick look at FR, and then regret going there -- all that concentrated hatred and blind stupidity is incredibly depressing. Those people are beyond reason and reach.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:33 PM
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27. What worries me is their ilk
could be running one or both of the Houses of Congress.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:14 PM
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29. What would Jesus burn?
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:36 PM
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30. They don't sound very christian more like Randal Terry and his bunch
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 07:36 PM by ThomThom
of anti-abortion thugs
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:49 PM
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31. How and why do they keep dreaming up this crazy stuff? nr
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:51 PM
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32. I hope they have a burn permit from their local air quality district
:P
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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:53 PM
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33. roger waters put it best
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 08:22 PM by jah the baptist
Waiting to put on a black shirt
Waiting to weed out the weaklings
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain
Waiting to follow the worms
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens
Waiting for the queens and the coons
And the reds and the Jews
Waiting to follow the worms

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insert muslims

edited to say the
smash in their windows and kick in their doors is the logical next step flowing from the book burning

edited for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bDY0DfEjmo
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:53 PM
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34. Dove World Uber Alles.
Good grief. How would they like it if Muslims burned copies of the New Testament to commemorate the U.S. invasion of (insert Muslim nation here)?
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:02 PM
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36. How fascist of them.
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 08:03 PM by roamer65
I hate Florida Nazis.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:04 PM
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37. Fuck, I hate religion.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:07 PM
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38. So do I.
They're basically cults.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:11 PM
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39. Yup...it is pretty bad stuff
I've been enjoying Christopher Hitchens book "God is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything".

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:20 PM
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40. Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Bah... it's not like they read that Bible thing anyway.
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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:29 PM
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41. matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye

nough said
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:48 PM
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42. K & R
:thumbsup:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:58 PM
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44. Well let's hope a massive hurricane isn't wiping out said
church at the same time. 9/11 just happens to be dead center for the Atlantic hurricane peak season.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 10:35 PM
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45. Marvelous "Outreach"!
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