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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:13 AM
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High-Risk Health Insurance Pools: Not Necessarily Affordable & Not Enough $$$ to Cover Cost
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 11:32 AM by amborin


High-Risk Insurance Pools to Begin Next Month


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....the government has earmarked $5 billion for states to set up high-risk pools, as the programs are called, for people who have been uninsured for six months or longer. The pools are to provide a bridge for people most in need of coverage until the insurance exchanges begin operating in 2014. The pools will have no restrictions based on pre-existing conditions; coverage starts immediately and comes with no annual or lifetime limits. Deductibles and co-payments will be kept low.

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Even as the deadline for their debut approaches, however, questions remain about the new risk pools.
The law mandates that premiums for the new coverage must be the same as the standard rate for a healthy adult in that state. (Currently insurance for someone with a pre-existing condition, when available at all, can cost as much as 200 percent of the standard rate.)

That sounds reasonable, but it’s not necessarily affordable. Depending on where you live, premiums could still be several hundred dollars a month.

In addition, many experts worry that the $5 billion won’t be enough to last until 2014. The federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services has estimated that the $5 billion will last for only two years.
“We just don’t know how many people will sign up for the new pools,” said Deborah J. Chollet, a senior fellow at Mathematica Policy Research, a public policy research company, who has studied existing state risk pools and the new plan. “Until we see what happens, there’s no way to know how long the money will last.”
Another concern is that only people who have been uninsured for six months or longer are eligible for the new pools. That means the newly unemployed or those paying exorbitant premiums because of a pre-existing condition — perhaps in their state’s existing high-risk pool — cannot simply switch to the more affordable high-risk pools.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/health/policy/26patient.html?scp=1&sq=high%20risk%20pools%20healh%20insurance&st=cse





Insurance Pools Readied in Some States


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At the White House last week, Mr. Obama said, “On July 1st, uninsured Americans who’ve been locked out of the insurance market because of a pre-existing condition will now be able to enroll in a new national insurance pool, where they’ll finally be able to purchase quality, affordable health care, some for the very first time.”

A new study by the Congressional Budget Office says the money will “not be sufficient to cover the costs of all applicants.” If more than 200,000 people participate, the budget office said, “the available funds will probably be exhausted prior to 2013.” Consumers or states could then be left in the lurch, seeking other sources of coverage. Some governors cited this concern in deciding not to apply for federal money.

Richard S. Foster, the chief actuary at the Department of Health and Human Services, said 375,000 people could gain coverage in high-risk pools this year.
But he predicted, “By 2011 and 2012, the initial $5 billion in federal funding would be exhausted.”



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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/health/policy/27insure.html?sq=high risk pools healh insurance&st=cse&adxnnl=1&scp=3&adxnnlx=1277654625-qSqtte6MHAqiMJkmL7WKXA
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discocrisco01 Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:22 AM
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1. That Is Why We Needed A Public Option Open To Anybody
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:49 AM
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6. +10000
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:31 PM
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12. Exactly
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:27 AM
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2. Recommend
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:50 AM
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7. those who analyzed the bill honestly predicted this, and more....
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 11:50 AM by amborin
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:29 AM
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3. No way insurance compaines are going to cut into their profits.
This is what happens when the American people are handed over to the privet sector.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:51 AM
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8. exactly! corporations are now in charge of citizens' heatlh care % we're legally mandated to comply
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:40 AM
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4. Like this is
breaking news?

Anyone paying any attention at all knew that the high risk pools were going to be expensive and inadequate.

Medicare for all is the only solution.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:51 AM
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9. analysts predicted this....
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:48 AM
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5. So a real and substantial reform is wrong
because it doesn't go far enough and may be so popular that it runs out of money?

The logic here fails me on many levels, the most primary being a program that reduces the theft for profit imposed by insurance companies on the sick to that imposed on the healthy is not affordable enough and will run out of money.

You can't have it both ways. Perhaps this attack would be more honestly phrased: "despite being such a widely needed reform that will be used by so many people that it will run out of money, the high risk insurance pools do not do enough to extend coverage to all those in need."

It may need more funding before the reforms scheduled for 2014 kick in.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:52 AM
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10. alas, HCR was not real and substantial reform....
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:58 AM
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11. Alas this particular part is real reform that will directly help
many people in desperate need. It's major shortcoming is underfunding.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:36 PM
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17. The rest of it is going to turn out to just as fvcked up as it phases in..
This revelation is but the tip of the putrid corrupt iceberg.

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:32 PM
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16. Oh, good luck.
The denial about the abysmal failure that was healthcare "reform" is epic.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:30 PM
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15. It was funded for only 3% of the population that could qualify
If you can bear it, you can wade through this thread. I just don't have the time right now to reformat and repost the information contained here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8624198
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 04:44 PM
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13. Yay. A shit sandwhich
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:37 PM
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18. You need bread to make a shit sandwich..
Sadly, there is not enough bread to go around.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 04:50 PM
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14. These were always a joke.
Sigh. :(
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