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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:47 AM
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Explosion at California water fuel research company kills inventor
Explosion at California water fuel research company kills inventor

Simi Valley, CA, USA -- Realm Industries in Ventura County, California, which is working on a water fuel technology, was rocked by an explosion Thursday at 480 E. Easy Street.

According to the Ventura County Star, authorities were told it was a water-based explosion, and that the company’s work involved extracting hydrogen from water to make fuel. The company's patent applications relate to equipment and ways to generate energy from fluids such as water that can be used as an alternative fuel source.

Two people in the facility were uninjured, but one person was killed in the blast, which blew a hole in the roof. Initially, three were thought to have been injured. Authorities are calling the incident an accident.

By coincidence, the Simi Valley police SWAT team was just down the street on a training exercise when the explosion occurred and the officers were able to arrive on the scene within moments and remove the other workers.

http://pesn.com/2010/06/18/9501662_water-fuel-research_Explosion_kills_inventor/
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:50 AM
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1. Hmm.. that is odd.. I hate living in a country where so many lies have been perpetrated
But what if this guy had just invented the thing that cheaply gets us off of oil?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:53 AM
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3. That's right. There's an engine that can run a car 200 miles on a cup of seawater.
Edited on Sun Jun-20-10 08:57 AM by slackmaster
It's been suppressed for years by the fossil fuel industry.

I read about it on the Internet. It was discovered by an inventor who was working on a cure for cancer, which has been suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li5a6iuPkNc
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 09:29 AM
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9. you forgot the sarcasm thingie
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:53 AM
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2. Another clean energy researcher becomes a victim of sabotage by Big Oil
You can bet the fingerprints of the Bush family, Dick Cheney, and Haliburton are all over this one.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:56 AM
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4. Here is irony for you
"Another one of the businesses occupying the building is the Simi Valley branch of the contracting company Servpro, a national company that specializes in cleaning up water-, fire- and smoke-damaged buildings. The office manager said they had 5-10 people in the building at the time of the explosion."

Guess they can clean up the mess!
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 08:56 AM
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5. I love a good conspiracy theory. The presence of the SWAT team is a gem.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 09:14 AM
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6. HHO is highly explosive
Every junior high science teacher worth his salt has done the "Electrolize water/vent into small bag/light small bag/giggle at the big boom" experiment. It's a very violent reaction.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 09:28 AM
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8. The Hindenburg didn't go down like that for no good reason.
Confined Hydrogen Gas + Igntion Source = BOOM.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:19 AM
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10. It didn't blow up. It just burned. No? nt
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:26 AM
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12. Yes.
Very quickly.

Which is the very definition of 'explosive'.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 04:26 PM
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15. No.
The Hindenberg burned down over the course of many seconds. It was not an explosion.

Whether or not hydrogen will explode or just burn quickly depends on the amount of oxygen it is mixed with. In the case of the Hindenberg, the amount of oxygen was within hydrogen's flammability limit, but not its explosion limit.

If the Hindenberg had exploded, that famous footage would have looked a lot different. Assuming it would have survived the blast, which is arguable.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:40 AM
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13. Which is why I said I hate living in a country of lies...
I know that on its own.. it can be explosive.. But it always seems that the alt. energy people meet many untimely deaths... or live very wealthy after their patten was bought out and sat on a shelf by a large corporate entity.. These things do happen.. However, we will never know the official truth of any of it. Which is why conspiracy theories begin.. its a questioning of the "official" line. I don't know anyone who believes the "official" govt answers regarding Kennedy or 9/11... Its another reason its so easy for the Paulites to be attractive. Not trusting "big govt"; rather than recognizing that we need to care for OUR govt and insist it does right by us.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 09:26 AM
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7. Well, hydrogen is highly flammable. Look at the Hindenburg.
No conspiracy theories needed.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:21 AM
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11. Another coinky-dink training exercise..
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:38 PM
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14. Clueless and sad if this is the patent...
http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20090092540/description.html

It looks like they were actually doing this:

http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/hydrogen1.html

"After donning our earplugs and face shields, we attached a SMALL (deflated) sandwich bag to the end of the copper tube (with a rubber band) in the water tank. After it was full of Oxy-hydrogen, we attached it to a LONG stick and held it over a candle flame. Boom!

As mentioned before, this gas is too dangerous to store or be of any practical use. For more information about how to build a large system to heat your house and provide electricity see "Solar Hydrogen Production by Electrolysis".
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 04:47 PM
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16. By coincidence the SWAT team was nearby.
How convenient.
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