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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:35 PM
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Watch the BP Cam! Thread #15!
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 06:22 PM by gateley
Thread #14: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8477765&mesg_id=8477765

Good job, guys, ALMOST THERE! :applause:

Special thanks to NYC_SKP, jaxx, Subdivisions (Club Commandant), Junkdrawer, flamingdem, Statistical, HughMoran, Feran, lamp_shade, Lochloosa, and soooooo many other DUers for the amazing coverage, education, and laughs!



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LATE ADDITION: All cams (BP site) http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605 Thanks to Strelnikov! :headbang:

Great site w/multi-screens: http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/bp-live-oil-spill-cam.html

WKRG Video Stream:http://www.livestream.com/wkrg_oil_spill

ABC Video Stream:http: http://abcnews.go.com/video/video?id=6046305

Akamai Link: http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:46245.asx

Fox Feed: http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?cha ...

CNN Feed: http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=str

Explanatory video (MUST SEE!): http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kentwellstechupdatelong053110.htm (I tried to find an update but wasn't successful )

Latest Oil Drum: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6554 (they may have moved on by now, they'll have a link)

Subsea Response Links (great to view when there's downtime):
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYETicASkH8SZGZmN3ptcXpfN2M2cmR3c2M5&hl=en

Great forum with lots of pics and video if you need to catch up: (although the DUUSBPROVC is giving them a run for the money!)
http://www.doomers.us/forum2/index.php/topic,68178.4545

The Oil Drum IRC Chat Room:

Server: Freenode
Channel: #theoildrum

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I was rushing, so as always, let me know if I need to fix links. *nail biting smiley goes here* :hi:

GROVEL BOT
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:38 PM
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1. knr. Thanks for keeping the threads going.
You are more optimistic than I in saying we are almost there. I hope we are, but the track record hasn't left me with much hope.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:48 PM
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14. I'm often overly optimistic.
:7 :hi:
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:52 PM
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16. You're a breath of fresh air, gately.
:hi:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:52 PM
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17. Nothing at all wrong with that.
At least you help to balance out us who have become so jaded. :toast:
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:38 PM
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2. Link for all the Wall-E cams
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:42 PM
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7. Wall-E cam watching the riser
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:42 PM
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10. Thanks - I'll add it to the OP!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:57 PM
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19. please also add the grovel bot pic, here:


And the club pic, here:



:yourock:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:17 PM
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29. Okay - but nothing better happen while I'm 'gone'! nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:24 PM
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31. Late, but done. Wish we could just drag them in like we're used to with our
Macs! :7
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:39 PM
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3. thanks gately
now it's time for the big show, Le cap d'oil.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:39 PM
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4. Top of BOP, say hello to Mr. Cap
Looks like a lunar landing or something - lol

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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:41 PM
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5. What is all that "stuff" going by
Dead sealife on the ocean floor?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:41 PM
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6. I feel like I'm watching the marriage of Frankenstein....
Or maybe the consummation?

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:48 PM
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15. More like the Honeymoon.
At a filthy Motel!

:P
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:42 PM
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8. it's the horror movie you can't look away from...
my heartrate is climbing...one of these things just HAS to work...

sP
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:43 PM
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11. second stream of stuff flowing UP???
i have been out of the loop...to the left of the BOP on the ABC feed there is another what looks like gusher...is that the dispersant they are using???

sP
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:47 PM
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12. all those hanging hoses may complicate putting the cap on
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:35 PM
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40. No, they assigned an attendent to carry the bride's train...
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:42 PM
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9. Present
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:47 PM
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13. Present.
*raises hand*

:hi:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:57 PM
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18. Any ETA on the docking maneuver?
I have been optimistic before and been wrong everytime but this time I think its really going to work.. please please please.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:09 PM
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23. It does look like a moon landing or something, doesn't it? We're ALL optimistic
and so impressed with what they've accomplished to get to this point. I'm with you... please please please.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:58 PM
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20. Oh my. It seems to be moving closer.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:01 PM
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21. As the ROVs putz around with hoses
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:06 PM
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22. Operation "cap volcano" is underway
...for those late to the show.
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MgtPA Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:09 PM
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24. Thank you kindly. Wow, looks a little like Lunar Lander (C64).
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:25 PM
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34. It really does! I just wish it would hurry up and "land"! nt
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:14 PM
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28. if this doesn't work...could they use a big wide tube...like a vacuum
cleaner...don't attach it to the bop but secure it somehow and suck the oil up this big tube like a big vacuum...there would be space between the tube and bop... but the suction would collect/suck up the oil...my non engineering mind is thinking of ideas...

come on # 4...!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:28 PM
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35. So many suggestions make sense to those of us who aren't engineers, but I
think if it would have worked, they would have thought of it and tried. I'm thinking it's the "securing it" that might pose a problem -- that's a lot of force spewing out.

Or, maybe something like that IS the next step if this isn't successful. :shrug:

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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:12 PM
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25. Thank you for these threads. Alas I am a pessimist.
This is easily the largest environmental disaster in the history of the USA.

I would say the systematic genocide of the American Indian only event worse in morality.

I find the toad Stevens from the USCS and the Fed ICS leader vomit inducing in favor of BP and misdeeds by lack of Federal attention to law and oversight.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:12 PM
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26. BP using hose for methanol, will act like antifreeze
from theoildrum:


To combat hydrate problems this time around, BP is running methanol, which will act as a kind of antifreeze, and heated water through a hose down into the containment cap.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:24 PM
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32. Which node # is... nevermind.... I found it #6539
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 06:26 PM by lamp_shade
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:13 PM
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27. Which BP genius didn't consider the hoses?
It seems that they could have been secured or attached so that they wouldn't be in the way a mile deep.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:19 PM
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30. annoying huh?
someone needs a talking to
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:25 PM
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33. So if I can only watch one cam, which is the best?
the Intervention III - ROV2?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:32 PM
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37. There are a couple of multi-cam links posted in the OP, and the akamal link
lets you move back and forth between a couple of views so you're not stuck staring at one while the action is taking place on another. :7
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:35 PM
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39. I've settled on 3
Intervention III ROV2, and Enterprise ROV1 and 2

Someone please alert me if the action goes elsewhere
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:37 PM
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41. I said the other day I wish I had a big wall of cams with different screens like
Wolf Blitzer. I'm assuming all those covering it have all the feeds and can switch to the 'action' shot, but I've found I feel more confident viewing a couple of different sources. God forbid I should miss a second - what if I see something that BP needs to know right away? :7
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:42 PM
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45. I know, like "waaaaaaait.... don't push tha.... oh damn"
I want to micromanage them too. If only I knew what they were trying to do.
:D
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:32 PM
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36. Is that the cap thingy I'm looking at?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:56 PM
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52. Yep - that's the cap thingy! nt
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:33 PM
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38. Just spin the cap and let the hoses wrap around it fer crissakes
let's get on with the show!
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:39 PM
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42. rovers surrounding the cap on ABC feed... n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:40 PM
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43. Damn. And I thought the back of my PC was bad....n/t
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:41 PM
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44. Am I the only one...
...who is amazed that I can sit here and watch what is going on at my desktop? This is 5000 feet under water. Just having the web cam here impresses me to no end.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:43 PM
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47. Eh. After the Mars rovers, this is nothing
Yeah I'm desensitized to technology ;D
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:02 PM
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55. Yes, constantly amazed at what we can do. I remember watching Captain
Picard at his screen, able to pull up any info in the world and thinking, we'll never have that, the database would have to be HUGE. :7 I think about it whenever I need info and it's at my fingertips, and not too many years ago I would have had to go to the library or look in the Yellow Pages. It's mind boggling.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:42 PM
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46. Looks like 3 ROV's working on that cap. That's nine guys with joysticks trying to coordinate
this whole thing. Omigod. The stress.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:44 PM
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48. I just wonder if they're all in the same room
or if they're having to text between moves
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:15 PM
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59. The environmentalist on KO right now referenced "the only people in the room"
which makes it sound like one room. Yikes! He said the only people in the room were BP people, the government and consultants. Sounds like too many chiefs IMO. But they're doing great, so what do I know?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:21 PM
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64. KO isn't in the room. Oceaneering is in the room.
Sounds like not giving proper respect to the heroes of this endeavor.

"consultants", meh.

:patriot:
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MgtPA Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:46 PM
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49. 4!!! 4!!! 4!!! 4!!!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:51 PM
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50. I think they're waiting for us all to look away n/t
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:56 PM
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51. What they need is some velcro n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:59 PM
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54. Quick. Send someone to Radio Shack for some nylon wire ties....
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:58 PM
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53. Is that floating knotty thing a "monkey fist?" n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:04 PM
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56. Since NYC_SKP educated us a few threads ago with pics of a monkey fist, I actually
know what you're talking about!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:07 PM
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57. At first I thought it was an old dishwashing sponge
but then I got a closeup and saw it was made of rope, lol
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:17 PM
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61. Why yes, it is a monkey fist. They're quite useful and easy to make!
You can make one out of shoelace, or use any size cord or rope larger than that.

A simple three-strand monkey fist can be made as a simple knot, or if you want some weight to it, tie a four or five-strand knot around a ball, a marble, a lead fishing weight.

These knots are useful as handles, of a sort, and are also used at the end of a "heaving line" (lighter weight line) to get a heavier dock line from ship to shore (I hope that makes sense).

I've made several of these, as small as keychains and as large as handballs for use around boats.

http://ropewright.com/resources/Monkey+fist+door+stop+4+strand.jpg



:patriot:

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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:19 PM
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62. Thanks! I've never seen one before but they sure seem like they could be useful
although the purpose on the ROV is mysterious to me...

Next time I can tear myself away from the screen, I'm going to get some rope and try to make one.

:hi:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:13 PM
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58. Poor "Atlas" can't catch a break
Those hoses are driving him nuts
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:17 PM
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60. *Monkey shakes fist at BOP"
"Curses BOP! Curses!"
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:20 PM
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63. for the monkey fist newbies...
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:23 PM
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65. Top Cap Four is Thrashing About, Waiting to Mate with BOP. BOP says,
"Say something nice, something sweet..."

:P
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:25 PM
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66. TC4 says "But wait, I have to get all these annoying strings out of the way"
BOP says "Oh c'mon, I don't care about those stupid things, let's get this on!"
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:31 PM
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68. And, "Seriously, before that damn Claw Comes Back...."


:scared:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:35 PM
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69. ...although, not much more damage he can do
Poor lil BOP's riser got clipped
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:30 PM
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67. I just can't help but think that after all these hours of careful preparation
Once TC4 gets close enough to BOP, the pressure is just going to completely blow it away and tangle all the hoses up.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:39 PM
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71. trussed and ready..come on 4
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:48 PM
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72. I think there's a misperception about the force and speed of the spew...
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 07:50 PM by NYC_SKP
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:36 PM
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70. In hopeful anticipation that the joint will be jumping - THREAD # 16!!!!
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