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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:28 PM
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Is It Time That Cheney Is Forced To Reveal All From His Secret Energy Task Force Of 2001?.....
What was discussed? What deals were made? Did this task force do anything - even remotely - to cut deals with the oil companies that might have some impact on this disaster we're facing in the Gulf today.

Here are some excerpts from Wikipedia about this Task Force:

Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials.

After several years of legal wrangling, in May, 2005 an appeals court permitted the Energy Task Force's records to remain secret.

The Washington Post reported on November 15, 2005 that it had obtained documents detailing how executives from major oil corporations, including Exxon-Mobil Corp., Conoco, Royal Dutch Shell Oil Corp., and the American subsidiary of British Petroleum met with Energy Task Force participants while they were developing national energy policy.

Vice President Cheney was reported to have met personally with the Chief Executive Officer of BP (formerly British Petroleum) during the time of the Energy Task Force's activities.

In the week prior to this article revealing oil executive involvement, the Chief Executives of Exxon-Mobil and ConocoPhillips told members of the US Senate that they had not participated as part of the Energy Task Force, while the CEO of British Petroleum stated that he did not know.

Regardless of whether the executives were under oath, if these statements were knowingly and materially false and deceptive then they were illegal per the The Fraud and False Statements statute (18 U.S.C. 1001) <10>. In response to questions regarding the article, Cheney spokesperson Lea Ann McBride was quoted as saying that the courts have upheld "the constitutional right of the president and vice president to obtain information in confidentiality."

It is time to open this up and see what this was all about. Seems to me that as with the wars, the financial meltdown, the crumbling of the American economy that Obama has had to deal with - and now this disaster in the Gulf - all of these issues were the result of the 8 years of the Bush/Cheney Administration.

Folks - its time to hold their feet to the fire and lay the blame where it belongs.

The silence by Bush and Cheney now regarding this disaster in the Gulf is deafening. Could it be they are laying low because they know something?
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:30 PM
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1. I assumed they were carving up Iraq n/t
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:47 PM
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8. And now it appears they were carving us up
The jokes on us.

Don
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:16 PM
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12. Joking aside...
I think the Iraq invasion was the predominate theme.

Along with the future of long-term oil dependence.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:43 PM
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17. Right you are.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 05:23 PM
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18. Many thanks for the link
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:34 PM
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2. Any holding of Bush/Cheney feet to the fire won't be done by Obama's DOJ
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:58 PM
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11. ...
<crickets chirping>
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:38 PM
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3. No, it is past time.
Bush and Cheney are laying low because they don't want anyone checking for their fingerprints on this.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:40 PM
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15. +1,000
Correctamundo!
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:41 PM
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4. Waterboard the bastard to make him talk.
After all, this IS a national security issue, and waterboarding is NOT torture, right?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:41 PM
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5. Waterboard that motherfucking treasonous piece of shit.
Or better yet, oilboard him.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:44 PM
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6. You do not have to ask Cheney anything, just look at the results that were achieved
If you want to see what deals were cut 9 years ago you do not need to ask Dick Cheney what deals were cut, all you have to do is look and see what actions were taken. Nothing was done without Cheney's approval, so if Oil Company X got a good deal in Iraq, then you may assume that was part of "the deal", if 3 companies X got good deals, then you may assume that all three of them participated in the secrete process and got approval from Cheney. What you have to keep in mind is that they, Bush and Cheney, were totally in control so that any result you see is a result they participated in.
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State the Obvious Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:45 PM
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7. Didn't the CEO of BP just state that he "couldn't recall" if he spoke with Cheney?
...but the Washington Post is saying:

"Vice President Cheney was reported to have met personally with the Chief Executive Officer of BP during the time of the Energy Task Force's activities."

Let's get Cheney before the committee.:grr:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:51 PM
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9. I think you are dreaming. You are currently seeing proof beyond a doubt who runs what.
And Cheeney aint goina go down. BP will clean up for a while, find a "drunk captain" to blame, and then carry on about their hugely profitable business. The tax payers will eat it.

Cheeney has been break laws for decades. But those laws do not apply to the ruling class.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:57 PM
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10. It's Obama's secret energy task force, unless he does something about it. Aiding and abetting.
We do not have the luxury of "looking forward" the way Obama can, politically. We still have to live with W's policies as they're erupting in the Gulf of Mexico, as we fight on in the Middle East, as Wall St. continues to rape us, etc.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:38 PM
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13. Astonishingly good idea you have there.
As for what Sneer and his Big Oil buddies are hiding in their Secret Energy Policy, I'd bet it's the numbers detailing how the black gold is running out and the empire's chief beneficiaries have found it cheaper to steal through war than buy at market.

As for Secret Government, what JFK said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:38 PM
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14. It was time in 2001
nt
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:41 PM
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16. Since he is likely to invoke Executive Privileges
we may have to resort to torture. I'm not sure I care if the torture results in actual or factual information. Yes it's that bad....I've sunk to their level.....today anyway.

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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 05:39 PM
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19. I think it's more then past time
Even though president Obama was not serious about transparency in his administration, i cannot see any harm in releasing documents from the previous one. I can only see us benefiting from it.
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