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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:18 PM
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AZ Rancher Murder suspect is an American
Edited on Mon May-03-10 06:19 PM by MrScorpio
Robert Krentz Murder Suspect Is American, Not Illegal Immigrant
First Posted: 05- 3-10 11:35 AM | Updated: 05- 3-10 07:14 PM

Robert Krentz, an Arizona cattle rancher whose killing became a "flashpoint" in the state's immigration debate, may have been killed by an American -- not an illegal immigrant, according to a new report.

The Arizona Daily Star reports that a "American suspect" is the focus of the Krentz murder investigation:

High-ranking government officials with credible information spoke to the Star, citing a desire to quell the fury over illegal immigration and drug smuggling set off by the shooting death of longtime rancher Robert Krentz on March 27.

They said Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever is investigating a person in the United States, not in Mexico, in connection with the shooting.

On March 27, Krentz was found shot to death in an ATV on his property in Cochise County, Arizona. A single set of footprints leading from the crime scene to the Mexican border sparked speculation that Krentz was killed by by an illegal immigrant.

Supporters of SB1070, Arizona's strict new immigration law, pointed to Krentz's slaying in arguing for the legislation.

SB1070 makes it a crime to not carry immigration documents and allows Arizona law enforcement to detain anyone who is suspected to be an illegal immigrant.

At an April 2 committee meeting in the Arizona Legislature, SB1070 supporters used Kretnz's death to justify the bill. Feet In 2 Worlds reports:

On Wednesday, supporters of SB 1070 wore black ribbons on their shirts in remembrance of Krentz as they attended a hearing on the bill by the Committee on Military Affairs and Public Safety.

"Enough is enough. Rob Krentz's death it's just one more example of government's failure to stand for it's citizens and the rule of law and protects citizens while we continue to harbor criminals and those that violate our sovereignty in our borders," said Sen. Russell Pearce (R-Mesa) author of the bill.

State Rep. David Gowan (R-Sierra Vista) told Feet In 2 Worlds that because of Krentz's murder, people from his area were "hammering and clamoring" for the passage of SB1070.

The bill was signed into law April 23 by Republican Governor Jan Brewer.

If Krentz's murder turns out to be unrelated to Mexican border violence, many people could be proven wrong.

Last month, during testimony before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, the Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever called Krentz's death an "exclamation point" on the discussion about Mexican violence spilling across the border.

Republican Senate candidate J.D. Hayworth, has made similar comments, and described Krentz as a "martyr" for border control. Hayworth even used Krentz's murder to "pound" incumbent Sen. John McCain over his immigration stance.

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (R-AZ) also pointed to Krentz's slaying when she asked for National Guard troops to be deployed along Arizona's border just three days after his death.

Krentz's family has blamed his death on U.S. political forces and their "disregard" of warnings about violence. They support the deployment of National Guard forces along the border:

We hold no malice towards the Mexican people for this senseless act but do hold the political forces in this country and Mexico accountable for what has happened. Their disregard of our repeated pleas and warnings of impending violence towards our community fell on deaf ears shrouded in political correctness. As a result, we have paid the ultimate price for their negligence in credibly securing our Borderlands.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/robert-krentz-murder-susp_n_561038.html?ref=twitter
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:21 PM
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1. Sure, but is he a United Statesian?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:23 PM
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2. Yup.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:23 PM
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3. Dumbasses that buy this sh!t every single time. n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:23 PM
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4. details details details
Fox News will only offer this as a QUESTION to their beloved

thanks for the info
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:24 PM
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5. Kinda Like 9/11 and Iraq, No?
Any pretext for a crime.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:31 PM
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6. Heavens Above, Sir! What A Surprise....
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:36 PM
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9. And a incorrect one
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:35 PM
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7. what a surprise n/t
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:35 PM
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8. The suspect is not an American
The suspect is a "Mexican who was recently in the United States". He is "not a U.S. citizen". http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/050310_krentz
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:41 PM
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10. Keep flogging this. This individual has nothing to do with working families.
Nor were there multiple "ranchers" killed as just about every RW idiot has been claiming.

Do you have any idea how many people that are Mexicans or are of Mexican descent live in this country? If they were murderers, you'd probably be dead already.





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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:44 PM
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11. Good luck.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:33 PM
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17. Coming from someone who just makes snark comments
and can never reply to the substance of a post.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:35 PM
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18. I was just reporting the news
I didn't make any comments on what he did or did not do. The OP tried to imply that it was an legal American citizen they were looking at and it simply is not true. Apparently you like to base your comments on false statements instead of accurate ones if it doesn't fit what you want.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 07:58 AM
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14. Newsflash: if he had a visitor's visa, he was here legally
Just because the suspect is Mexican doesn't mean he's an illegal alien.

:eyes:

dg
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:32 PM
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16. Where does it say he had a vistor's visa?
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:55 PM
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19. where does it say he didn't? nt
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 03:30 PM
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21. Happy to take a bet on that one when an arrest is made.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 07:48 PM
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22. I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt than be a racist. nt
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:53 PM
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23. Good at knocking down straw men aren't you?
So when someone is on foot in the desert area between Arizona and Mexico and you suspect they don't have a visitor's visa then you are racist. Interesting.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:43 AM
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24. When you take the position that the murderer is an illegal
just because s/he is from Mexico, that's not knocking down a strawman.

dg
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:51 PM
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12. Tell me why would immigrants kill a Border Angel?
Tell me why would immigrants kill a Border Angel? Why aren’t the Minute Men being Looked at?

Arizona rancher Robert Krentz was known as a Good Samaritan who would help injured illegal immigrants he encountered on his 35,000-acre ranch near the Mexico border.

He would give water to the migrants suffering from their arduos desert trek in 120-degree weather.

So it was a shock to those who knew him to learn that the 58-year-old was found shot to death over the weeknd — and the suspect is an illegal immigrant.

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/44808


Krentz was known as a kind soul who helped immigrants crossing through his property. He wasn't a hateful xenophobe. But even if his murdered turned out to be Mexican, the circumstances of the case still suggest it was a drug hit -- which would still have little bearing on the immigration debate.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/3/863159/-Catalyst-for-hateful-Arizona-law-had-little-to-do-with-immigration-issue


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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:56 PM
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20. they wouldn't but the coyotes, drug runners, or Minute Men might nt
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 07:26 AM
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13. Bet FAUX & conservative media will ignore this tiny fact.
:mad:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 08:10 AM
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15. Lies Fly Around The World While The Truth Is Brushing Its Teeth...
It's a game the rushpublicans play like a Stradavarius. The let loose a lie, tie it to a sense of urgency, create a crisis and then when the truth comes out, it's too late. This got us into a war for profit in Iraq, "deregulated" too big to fails, destroyed careers and lives and enabled such things as the tea baggers.

Deny all they want, the "Papers Please" bill represents blatant racism in a cynical ploy to wedge voters...play on ethnic hatred to pour money and votes toward the rushpublicans. It's easy to resent the guy with the funny accent who just can't get your burger right...damn Mexicans! Of course you pay no attention to the "anglo" who hired him or the corporate overlord who watches the bottom line like a hawk. It's easier to demonize and if there's some existing prejudice, so much the better.

Cheers...
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:47 AM
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25. Doesn't mean that he/she did it
At this point I believe he/she hasn't been charged. However let's not jump to any conclusions like the right did based on the fact there was footprints heading back to the border.
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