Could you prove your citizenship if stopped by a police officer?

[hedgehog]

Not many of us carry our passports with us everywhere. If I'm not the one driving, I'm apt to leave my purse with driver's license home.

My grandmother was a naturalized American citizen. (We're pretty sure she snuck at the Niagara Falls crossing). Her siblings were citizens/subjects of the Republic of Ireland, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand. A group of them had a get together, visited us up at Buffalo and of course we took them to see Niagara Falls. Now, as all the locals know, the best spot to see the falls is on the Canadian side. Coming back, the customs man could see we weren't all Americans. The person he picked out to prove her citizenship was my aunt, born and raised in Youngstown, Ohio!

I know I have enough of an accent that people have asked me if I'm from Ireland!

[MercutioATC]

1. My ID for work is always in my car.

Only U.S., citizens can be air traffic controllers.

(but I get your point)

[seabeyond]

2. mostly i have drivers license with me. sometimes i dont. so sometimes... no i would not be

able to.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. Your DL is not proof of citizenship

[seabeyond]

22. i understand. that is one of my question. will they accept dl per the law passed? nt

[ProgressiveProfessor]

34. Can't tell until the there is some implementation guidance

[seabeyond]

39. and to answer the question, if dl does not suffice, i will never carry my passport even though i

have a current one.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

56. I carry the passport card, though I have never been asked for it as a passport

Fits in the wallet etc. Got it when I thought I would be doing extensive border crossing, but it did not pan out. I occasionally use it to confuse local cops and wait staff who have never seen it. Not sure I would get one/carry one just for Arizona.

[seabeyond]

63. i stopped flying because of their unconstitutional behavior. i will stop going to az for the same

reason. i was born in az. i have family in az. and we were just in az a month ago, both ways on our trip to calif. spent money there. i dont think it will be long before something is done about this though. i hope.

[Vincardog]

114. They will accept dl per the law passed as long as your White.

[sybylla]

32. Thanks to the real ID act, it is now

In my state, the DL database tracks whether you are a citizen or legal alien. So a DL would suffice.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

33. IIRC, not all states knucled under to the Real ID mandate

Moreover, it they do not display your citizenship even if its tracked

[Naturalist111]

51. That is correct sir. Due to the new Homeland Security Laws

when you go to renew your DL you will find that things have changed just a bit. :-)

[csziggy]

60. Yes, last time I renewed my DL I had to show my birth certificate

I did not know where I had my original from the hospital stored, so I got a new copy. It is printed on the same kind of form Barack Obama's is!

My Mom is having a problem - there is a computer error with her records on the computers of the State of Alabama. They do not have her correct birth date as indicated on all her previous records, including the family Bible, her birth certificate from the 1930s and her military records. So when she needed new copies for her Social Security, the dates do not match and the Social Security Administration is giving her a hard time. When she tried to get corroboration from the Navy of her records, they required a notarized copy of her birth certificate which of course does not match her records. Now she is worried that she will have problems renewing her driver's license, though I am not too sure I want her to get it renewed at the age of 89!

[Naturalist111]

62. Understandable!

Good luck with your mom.

[sweetloukillbot]

72. From what I understand...

Because you are required to prove citizenship in AZ to get a driver's license, it counts as proof of citizenship in regards to this new law. But other states don't require citzenship to get a DL, so their licenses don't count.

Interestingly, the new law also reaffirms AZ's non-compliance with RealID - I find that ironic - you must provide proof of citizenship, but we don't want any national IDs!!!!

[slackmaster]

88. Proof of citizenship is not necessary!

Proof of legal residence is the issue.

The OP asks an irrelevant question.

[msongs]

3. make a citizen's arrest of the officer if HE/SHE cannot show proof lol nt

[wolfgangmo]

59. That's a good suggestion. ...

If you want to be shot.

[elocs]

4. Most of the "prove your citizenship" is based upon how you look and speak.

If you are a blue eyed blond and speak English without an accent it is unlikely you would ever be bothered.

[LiberalFighter]

5. It sure sounded like the Governor of Arizona has an accent.

[seabeyond]

13. of course. we understand that. i am wondering how they are going to incorporate blacks

into this though... i am sure it is an inevitable

[wolfgangmo]

64. Let's be clear about this.

This is the second or 3rd step in requiring internal passports to travel, apply for jobs, bank accounts, rent an apartment, etc. We are on the road to bad things.

We've seen this before and I never though I would live to see it in the US of A. It's a shame.

[rfranklin]

6. Does a drivers license prove citizenship?

I don't see anything on mine that says I am a citizen. Or do they not issue licenses to resident aliens?

[seabeyond]

14. this is my question. is a dr license enough. nt

[AngryOldDem]

80. I wouldn't think so.

That just proves your residence, not citizenship.

[slackmaster]

86. No, but it proves LEGAL RESIDENCE which is sufficient to prove you are not in the country illegally

HTH

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. Nope, I couldn't.

I don't carry my passport around with me either...

I always have my driver's license, though...

I'm not sure that counts.

:shrug:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

Yes

[my2sense]

8. Yes, I have a pocket sized birth certificate

Just because it was convenient to keep in my wallet years ago.

[wolfgangmo]

61. That is not proof.

It is only one of many documents that can be submitted, along with a background check and FBI check to obtain proof.

They are not tamper proof.

Honestly, can you see a teabagging cop accepting a birth certificate? Criminy, they don't accept the Presidents.

[my2sense]

118. Well - this is true...I'll just keep myself clear of the Ariz nuts

[my2sense]

119. Well - this is true...I'll just keep myself clear of the Ariz nuts

[Saturday]

9. I can always prove who I am. nt

[randr]

10. If I am in Arizona

I would only have to show my white skin, apparently.

[angrycarpenter]

12. I am a caucasian hillbilly with a southern accent.

Not likely to set off any alarm bells with the cops. This thing is about profiling and I just don't fit the profile, however I always carry ID when I leave the house.

[woo me with science]

15. I couldn't even do it at the DMV. nt

[Stevenmarc]

16. Yep, I have an Enhanced Drivers License

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/edl-main.htm

[HipChick]

17. I cannot prove my citizenship..

I lost my original naturalization papers...it costs something like $400 to replace and something like up to a year to get..
However, I have a British accent, people have told me, even if I was lying, it would still sound like I was telling the truth...I'd warrant some accent are more acceptable than others...it stinks where we are as a society...
The law favors some and not others...I've been stopped for speeding and had no drivers license or insurance with me, heck I didn't even have the car rental contract with me in the car...the cop told me that he should throw the book at me,and have the car towed on the spot..yet he just let me go gave me a warning..

[Jensen]

18. Birth Certificates do they work in Arizona from another State??

They are having problems with President Obama's Hawaiian Birth Certificate...Just saying!!

[Retrograde]

52. well, we know Hawaii's are suspect

My own copy of my birth certificate (issued by the city, not the state) just says the city has a record of my birth there on a certain date - doesn't even mention my sex, let alone my parents. But it was good enough to get me a passport, which I do carry if I'm planning to be near a border. For most domestic travel, though, I don't bother with my passport.

[NNN0LHI]

103. A copy good enough or does it need to be an original with the raised print on the stamp?

[madmom]

19. I was born at home, my father delivered me, all I HAD was a piece of paper from

the doc that said it was a live birth. The hospital where it was on file has since burnt to the ground. Good thing I am not dark skinned huh? I guess I got "lucky" when I didn't take after my dad's Italian heritage.

[hedgehog]

23. Side topic, but one of my son's fellow engineers is a dark skinned

Italian-American. My son is light skinned, muscular and tends to keep his hair cut short. To me, he looks like ex-military. They both do an incredible amount of foreign travel and carry some odd equipmnet. Guess which one always gets pulled aside for further questioning.

[madmom]

38. I have no doubt, I have cousins who live in the western US that DO have the

olive complexion and dark features. I fear for them.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. ¿Qué?

[oneshooter]

21. Been around the world three times, never had a passport

never needed one, don't want one.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[annabanana]

28. So.. You did all your travelling on our dime?

And you never got curious enough to get off the base and go back on your own?

[hunter]

47. Getting out's not the problem.

It's the getting back in that's the trouble.

[etherealtruth]

75. Tell me about it

I took my 14 year old across the border (US/Canada) for a medical appointment ... I forgot his passport. It is amazing the amount of info that Homeland Security can bring up with the click of a mouse.

[fishwax]

24. I carry my driver's license, but that's about it

I have a passport and birth certificate somewhere, but I certainly don't carry them with me ...

[demwing]

25. Documents that prove citizenship

• Previously issued, undamaged US passport
• Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state of birth
• Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
• Naturalization Certificate
• Certificate of Citizenship

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

[rasputin1952]

26. Proof of citizenship is getting tougher all of the time...

The Homeland Security Act started all of this crap, and it may get worse. My grandmother could not produce her BC, because she didn't have one, they had to go to baptismal records. But it's worse than that.

Today, just about any document can be forged, we accept them essentially as a matter of faith. Can anyone actually "prove" they are a citizen by way of a document? BC's prove "someone" was born in a certain place at a certain time, but how does anyone really know you or I are actually the person described?

Since the HSA, I have had to "prove" who I am not just in dealing with banks, but with every aspect of my existence. I guess fighting for this nation wasn't enough, now I need several pieces of identity just to work at a menial job. Paying taxes during my entire working career doesn't count, my driving privileges doesn't count, my service in the Army doesn't count. The fact I had children here doesn't count...the whole "proof" thing is smoke an mirrors...no one can truly prove who they claim to be, unless DNA evidence is introduced, and even that can be falsified in a lab.

What the AZ legislature and governor has done is little more than create a horrific situation where people can be taken off the street, removed from their home and be constantly harassed for no reason. Probable Cause has become, "we don't like the way you look, dress or speak". Without formal accusation of a crime, you can be hauled away.

This is a Nazi nightmare.

[Mari333]

41. [phone]

[ecstatic]

27. Another troubling aspect: Carrying all your identity info in your car means

that if someone breaks into your car, your identity will go with it.

[HipChick]

36. ID Theft

dream come true...wonder if it will increase forged passports..

[Jennicut]

126. Exactly why I never keep that stuff in my car.

[nevergiveup]

29. I wonder if the Obama sticker on my car

will make me suspect? I also have a few Latino friends and I drive an old Eldorado. I am also worried about my shoes.

[titoresque]

78. I think I shall report you to the proper authorities

:hide: j/k

[RC]

91. Careful, too many authorities are actually improper nowadays.

[NotThisTime]

30. living in Burlington VT I always carry my passport in case I decide to head into Canada

[etherealtruth]

31. I have en enhanced driver's license ... so yes

... the only reason I have this is that one of my kids has had medical treatment in Canada and we must cross the border frequently

[FarCenter]

35. Most countries require non-citizens to produce their passport and/or residency permit

Typically, something like a driver's license and a photocopy of your passport will suffice, although in some countries, you would be well advised to carry your passport.

Most countries have official ID cards for citizens, but in many cases the citizen need not carry the ID.

What does a US citizen need to carry in Mexico? Or to apply for a job in Mexico?

[hedgehog]

95. But if a non-citizen is not carrying a passport or residency permit,

how do you prove that he is a non-citizen? Or how does a citizen prove that he is not a non-citizen who forgot his papers?

[FarCenter]

108. The penalty would be decided after the identity and/or citizenship papers are produced

Suppose the country does not require citizens to carry the ID, but does require non-citizens to carry passports or immigrant registration IDs.

If a person is challenged by the authorities, the person could claim to be a citizen. But the police would then ask the person to prove that he is a citizen by producing a passport or other suitable identification or by providing the police with information that satisfies them that he is a citizen.

If the person cannot provide proof of citizenship, and the investigation determines that the person is not a citizen, then the person would be subject to:
- whatever the penalty is for not carrying the required passport or immigration papers, and depending on the situation,
- being deported.


So, for example, if you are in Japan, you are required to carry your passport, which also contains your visa. Some people carry a photocopy and leave the passport locked in the hotel safe. But that may mean a trip to the police station while the real thing is retrieved from the hotel.

[AnArmyVeteran]

37. No... I would be sent to Mexico. But I hope them send me to Cancun so I can have a paid vacation...

[shadowknows69]

40. Due to my cynical nature

I'm fairly certain we'd progress right to the police brutality phase.

[LiberalAndProud]

42. No. I hope they deport me to Canada.

Not very likely, me being white and all.

[aikoaiko]

43. If the standard is something like the I-9 employment verification then yes.

If you can prove that you can work in the US, then that's good enough to prove that you can be here I would think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-9_%28form%29

[bridgit]

44. yes

[amyrose2712]

45. Not always, and not if NJ DL doesn't count, although it should...

have to have lots of forms of ID to get your DL now. My it took my mom 2 years because she was never legally adopted by her step father, but had used that last name since she was 5. Got married under that last name. She had to jump through hoops to get it. And I don't have a passport.

[Lyric]

46. Nope. My state ID is expired and I don't carry around my birth certificate.

I guess it's a good thing I'm white, and the odds of anybody stopping me are pretty much zero. *sigh*

Congratulations Arizona! Another expansion of white privilege--just what America needs right now.

:eyes:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

49. How do you write checks for retail stores or use a credit card?

I occasionally used to use my passport for those activities just for grins. Made some clerks and managers crazy. One tried to tell me that a passport was too easy to get and was not good enough but a drivers license was. That may have changed over the years.

[Lyric]

53. I don't have a checking account or credit cards.

I have a credit union savings account (where I can cash checks and receive direct deposits of tax refunds, etc.) and a couple of prepaid Greendot Mastercards that I use for online and point-of-sale purchases. I've never been asked for ID to use my prepaid Mastercards. I just sign the slip and go.

Living off the grid is not as hard as people think it is. :)

[mrs_p]

48. i guess here in colorado

my driver's license could work, as i had to show proof of citizenship to get it. back in washington, that wasn't the case.

[Naturalist111]

50. Yes indeed. Due to new laws I had to bring my new birth certificate

(my previous one had worked for 39 yrs) to the license bureau to get my new Drivers License. So in essence if I have a valid drivers license I am a citizen. It would state it on the drivers license otherwise.

[etherealtruth]

55. Not true in the State of Michigan

Unless you apply for and pay for an enhanced license ... I would venture a guess that 75%-90% of the residents of my state could not prove their "citizenship" on demand .... the only reason i am able to is that I need to cross the US -canadian border frequently.

The truth is that it is doubtful I would ever be stopped in Arizona (or any place else in the US) ... I am of western European ancestry and I look it.

[Oregone]

54. I carry my long-form birth certificate everywhere I go

Its in case they try to deport me to an Aftrican country, or in case I decide to spontaneously run for office.

[dorkulon]

57. I carry a cheeseburger Hot Pocket and a 44 oz. Mountain Dew everywhere I go.

When I'm stopped, I start eating, making loud slurping noises and complaining about the damn government, clearly indicating my status as an American.

[Solly Mack]

58. Yes...but then I do carry my passport with me at all times.

[LWolf]

65. Not every person born in the U.S. HAS a passport.

I got one in my 30s, when my ex-spouse was traveling out of the country for work, and I hoped to join him. I never used it; I don't know if passports need renewing, but I know it's in a file in the cabinet that I haven't looked in in the last decade.

I have a driver's license. I have a copy of my birth certificate, tattered and falling apart, in that same file with the passport. I have my social security card.

I don't think I'm that unusual.

[HipChick]

66. True...I'm always surprised by the number of Americans that have never been out of the country

let alone have a passport..

[LWolf]

82. It costs money, and requires free time, to go out of the country.

I've never been further than Baja. Living in so cal for 38 years, it was close enough to drive non-stop. I never needed a passport to cross the border. Of course, I haven't been since '89.

Do the majority of Americans have that much disposable income, and are they able to take enough time off of work to travel far from home?

[hayu_lol]

68. DL is sufficient here in Oregon since...

proof of citizenship is required to get one. In other states, probably not.

[Blue_In_AK]

73. That's very true.

I only got a passport a couple years ago because we can't drive in and out of Canada anymore without one. I went 60 years without one and never needed it.

[northzax]

123. It's expired

Us passports are good for a decade for adults, 5 years for people under 15.

[LWolf]

125. I figured that. The chances of ever crossing another border are

so slim I just figured I'd renew it if the time ever came.

I guess, if my personal economy ever improves beyond barely scraping by, I could visit Canada; I could get there in a long day. I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel, though, so that passport can stay filed.

[mainer]

67. Some of us go jogging without our ID, just our house keys

So any one of us could be stuck in a situation without being able to prove citizenship.

[Bettie]

69. Nope.

Don't carry a passport or a birth cert. with me...um, ever.

I do usually carry a driver's license, but you can get one of those if you aren't a citizen.

[AnArmyVeteran]

70. I'm going to start a class in Arizona to show Hispanics how to 'LOOK AMERICAN'...

I'll tell them what shoes to wear, how to walk, things to say. Maybe I'll even teach them to change their voices so they sound like they are British or German. I could get lots of customers. But I would do it for free to dupe all of the conservative SS squads.

Side note: Did you know that GHW Bush was taught to walk like the 'Duke' John Wayne? His handlers thought Bush would look more macho that way and appeal to the 'Bubba' voters. If you look at before and after video of Bush walking you can see a difference. I'm not sure if this story was 100% true, but I remember when it came out and no one disputed it. But that was before the internet.

[annabanana]

89. Wait Wait.. What about their HAIR?

That guy said you could tell illegal immigrants by their HAIR. .

(I wonder what bald people will do?)

[hobbit709]

71. I had to prove mine last summer to renew my driver's license

[Robb]

74. My all-American gut speaks for itself. nt

[proud patriot]

76. Half my Family is in Arizona ... I'm pissed

was going to drive down for a visit this summer

[Ikonoklast]

77. Yes.

I used to cross the Can-Am border on a daily basis, and carry my birth certificate, passport, and cross-border customs documentation for CDL holders used to expedite the movement of commercial freight.

[backscatter712]

79. I've got a Social Security card and a birth certificate, but don't carry them with me.

I always have my drivers license with me, though I'm not sure if that's sufficient if the cop really wants to be an asshole about it.

Then again, I'm white, so I get unfair preferential treatment in these matters...

I'm looking into going to grad school abroad, so I may have to get a passport...

[Gormy Cuss]

81. Yes, by telling hin if he isn't ICE it's none of his business.

I'm willing to go to jail over it.

[Posteritatis]

83. I actually have a citizenship card on me

I'm fully aware that I'm an outlier in that department, though, as that was issued to me to clean up a pretty longstanding paperwork snafu dating back to my birth.

These days I just keep it on me (along with my various other ID) mainly because I like the reactions I get when I pull that out when carded - it's a relatively uncommon piece of ID around here. I consider requiring people to keep something like that on them at all times - or legally requiring any documents to be onhand, obvious things like driver's licenses in a car notwithstanding - to be somewhat offensive at best.

[NNN0LHI]

100. Where would I might get one of those things if you don't mind me asking?

[saulmart]

84. Probably not

Good point!

[slackmaster]

85. Wrong question. My California Driver Licence is sufficient to prove legal residence in California

Citizenship is NOT THE ISSUE.

K&U

:kick:

[BurtWorm]

87. I'm pretty sure it's not the Irish immigrants they'll be targeting in Arizona

;-)

[Jack Rabbit]

90. I couldn't

I was born in Stockton, California and carry no papers that prove it. I have a certified copy of my birth certificate which I don't carry with me, but what would that prove? Besides, if a birther won't accept that as proof of anything from President Obama, why should he trust it as proof from me?

[Brooklyns_Finest]

92. Going to renew my passport today

I am going to renew my passport today since it expired last year since I never had a chance to do it earlier. I am probably also going to get myself a passport card as well. I work for the federal government, and when I fly I use my Homeland Security Presidential Declaration 12 federal work ID (HSPD-12). The TSA agents always give me a double take when I use my federal work ID, but they have to accept it. I can't really use it in other places because it doesn't have my DOB on it. What is interesting is that with my HSPD-12, I can get in to any low level security federal building even if I don't work there.

[Arkana]

93. Nothing past a driver's license, but I don't live in Arizona

and I don't plan on going there. Ever.

[SargeUNN]

94. I live in Arizona so I might find out

just hope they will accept my Louisiana birth certificate since they seem to be selective about what is "proper" here.

[NaturalHigh]

96. Yes, I have a couple of forms of government-issued photo ID...

but I don't want to be harassed for no other reason and made to prove my citizenship. If I were arrested for committing another crime, that's a different story.

[shedevil69taz]

97. Self delete double post nt

[shedevil69taz]

98. Laminated copy of my social security card

military ID, and drivers license is on me every single time I leave my property, without exception.

[Liberal_in_LA]

99. carrying the SSN card was advised against when ID theft rampant

I use to carry mine also.

[shedevil69taz]

101. Its already on my military ID

so I figured fuck it might as well keep this on me too. Its in my wallet in a pocket that is hard to access so no one sees it if I'm simply getting out money or a debit card.

[Liberal_in_LA]

102. I see. I remember when people use to have SSN printed on their checks

Most institutions, like medical insurance, stopped printing the SSN on cards. Military needs to catch up

[shedevil69taz]

105. Can't really avoid it

for the servicemembers themselves as we are tracked in all computer systems now by SSN. What they do now though is to leave OURS and their ssn off of the ID cards for dependants.

[Rex]

104. Can you prove it by showing your drivers license and SS card?

If not, then we just walked into a total nightmare.

[kevinbgoode]

106. What difference does it make anyway?

The people who passed this crazy-ass legislation are also many of the same people who don't believe the President is a citizen, no matter what documents he produced. I think one point we keep missing here is that the champions of this law are also composed of the same people who, no matter what evidence you produce, would readily manufacture claims of it being fake anyway.

It shouldn't go unnoticed that these are also the same people who insist that only hard-right con-artist con-servatives are "real" Americans so does anyone really believe that they won't harass anyone else they don't like no matter what documents anyone carries around?

[Sisaruus]

107. All birth certificates that were issued in Puerto Rico will be invalid on 7/1

They are born U.S. citizens who also happen to speak Spanish as a first language. What happens if they enter AZ?

[Missy Vixen]

109. No

I have a driver's license. We didn't bother to apply for the enhanced version; we've been to Canada once in the past ten years, despite the fact we live 100 miles from the border. I don't carry my passport in daily life.

My family is second generation American on both sides, and emigrated legally. Surprisingly enough, natives of Seattle are told elsewhere in the country that we have a "Canadian" accent. Maybe the citizenship purists will think I'm Canadian. Oooh. Universal health care, eh?

:woohoo:

[DeschutesRiver]

110. Up until now, I've just carried a DL; but even though I'm in OR, I am thinking

about tossing the passport in. What things have come to that I have think through where I might be going, and whether I have the proper papers to avoid a cop with an attitude and jail time, simply because I didn't have sufficient proof of my right to be where I've always been.

That said, I do have a passport, and I think I need to suck it up and shut up and start carrying it. I am just not used to doing so, am older, and it is making me cranky, but it isn't the biggest imposition in the world. DH needed proof of who he was a few weeks ago for another reason, and he has misplaced his passport (had to take his birth certificate).

Guess we'd better redouble our efforts to find it.

[SoxFan]

111. I don't look Hispanic

Let's cut to the chase, shall we?

Phoenix Suns star Steve Nash is from Canada. Do you think he will ever be asked for his papers?

The guy who fixes Nash's car, mows his lawn, or fixes the gin an tonic he has after a nice win won't have it so easy, even if his family has been in Arizona for the last 400 years.

[ck4829]

112. I carry my SS card, so many interviews for a 2nd job

But I know not everyone does that.

[TheOther95Percent]

113. Nope. Couldn't Prove It on the Spot.

First generation on both sides.

[Hekate]

115. No. All I carry is my DL and credit cards. The 9-11 attackers won, didn't they?

They changed our way of life, our way of thinking -- with a lot of help from GW Bush and Co. most people in this country simply acquiesced out of ginned-up fear.

Hekate

[Mira]

116. The only way I could prove it is to take the framed naturalization certificate

off my kitchen wall, and hang it up in my car.
I just might do that.

[Old Troop]

117. I'm sure my new England accent would fool them

[KonaKane]

120. I cannot, and I WILL not.

I'll extend that to say it's the duty of any person who loves what's left of our country, to refuse such a request at any time it is given. I've done time in jail before for defying authority when it is wrong, and I'll goddamned well do it again if necessary.

[BlooInBloo]

121. I could prove my ability to tell him to fuck the hell off.

Does that count?

[JoeyT]

122. It depends on your skin tone and the cop's mood.

I've had them refuse my driver's license as valid proof, they wouldn't take my home address from my car insurance papers either. I'm half Native American, not Hispanic, btw.

Basically this law is a "Harass anyone with dark skin until they get the hell out of our state." law. Don't think for a second they HAVE to accept anything, including your passport as valid.

Edited to add: This was in Alabama, not Arizona.

[Cid_B]

124. The O on my military ID identifies me as a US citizen...

Not an option for most people though...

[a la izquierda]

127. Probably not

I only carry a DL. I have a passport and a certificate of vital stats (probably not good enough for birthers), but why the hell should I carry them with me?
I'm Italian, Irish and Spanish and I speak fluent Spanish. I pass for Mexican in Mexico, where I live part of the year.

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128. I don't even have a passport. Don't know where my birth certificate is. So...no.