A terrible what if: What if the repubs countered with single payer?

[Gman2]

I have heard ill informed righties argue that elements of single payer, and strong public option would be superior. Sure they didnt REALLY know what they were saying. Still, is it remotely possible, that the replace portion of the repub repeal and replace, is strong? What would happen if they did?

[NoPasaran]

1. Five-dimensional checkmate!

[DCBob]

2. What if elephants could water ski?

It aint gonna happen.

[skipos]

3. And what if the GOP nominated Bernie Sanders to run against Obama in 2012?!?!? nt

[KittyWampus]

31. that would be truly awesome.

[Morning Dew]

4. It would hurt

Because monkeys would be flying out of my ass.

[scarletwoman]

37. DUzy!

[rufus dog]

59. I had a thousand smart ass comments

and decided to read all the responses first. Glad I did because yours ROCKS.

[givemebackmycountry]

5. With all due respect (and I mean that!)

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND?
There is as much of a chance of me sitting on a "perfect" NCAA Basketball bracket.
It ain't happening.

[TCJ70]

6. The *POP* sound would be deafening...

...as Teabagers heads exploded around the country.

[spanone]

7. what if osama bin laden was elected to head the united states chamber of commerce?

[pundaint]

56. What would that change?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. If my aunt had wheels she'd be a pastry cart.

I don't think you should lie awake worrying about the Republicans introducing single payer. Satan will be playing hockey in Hell before that happens.

[brewens]

18. I am SO stealing the pastry cart line! n/t

[scarletwoman]

9. Easy. I'd pressure my Dem representatives to vote for it.

[DJ13]

10. No way, but why do you think it would be terrible?

[OhioBlue]

11. we would jump up and down with joy and Pres Obama

would sign it with a smile and a wink and we would know he IS the ultimate chess player??? lol.

It would NEVER happen.

[Lint Head]

12. Medicare for all will never happen under the Frightwingers because

they don't give a flying shit about other human beings.

[kestrel91316]

13. Already I have seen some dedicated RWers on another forum

come right out and say they want single payer rather than mandated private insurance. I think when they see that the ins cos are NOT their friends in spite of the new law, they will come around to the idea of SP in large numbers. We need to be ready to give it to them.

I think Obama set it up this way. The ins cos are incapable of behaving like civilized human beings and will continue to cheat and hurt people. And it will be their doom.

[no_hypocrisy]

14. They won't.

But if they did, they'd take the credit all the way to November.

[rocktivity]

15. It would only be terrible

if Obama DIDN'T beat them to it.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[Leopolds Ghost]

45. The day EITHER party proposes any sort of public plan, monkeys will fly -- we now have proof

This was all a big scam from the beginning.

[Mz Pip]

16. Whatever works

But the Republican would never propose anything even close to Single Payer.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Now this has to be pure commedy

first they don't have the votes for repeal, at last not in this reality, and even assuming they win every election in the Senate. They will have 51 votes. they need 67 votes...

So start there.

Now if they did that I'd be going? WHAT now who will the Tea Baggers go after?

[enlightenment]

23. Just a little question . . .

not that I think the concept is realistic in any way.

Assuming, however, that the planet tilted on its axis and they did propose this, are you suggesting that the Dems wouldn't vote for it?

Partisan politics over the good of the nation?

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. I did not go there

because realistically that is not going to happen. At least not in this reality.

Now if for some reason they proposed single payer... as long as it is based on something like medicare or Tricare... I'd be begging my reps to vote for it.

But it ain't gonna happen in this reality UNDER THIS GOP. Now something that MIGHT happen, is that the GOP goes the way of the WHIG party and the Conservative party that forms to replace it do that. See GOP in oh 1858 and Slavery. Alas given current reality this is not as far fetched as some 'round these parts believe it is.

[Gman2]

41. Of course, then the teabaggers would threaten them with coup too, coocoo cachoo.

[Gman2]

43. Also, I just read a conservative declare the repub party dead. forget which.

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. They are splintering in a not so commedic way

the WHIG did the same...

[anigbrowl]

19. I am more worried about dread Cthulhu returning to the land and getting a job at my local 7-11

I'm not sure he knows how to brew a decent pot of coffee.

[ddeclue]

20. Ummm? Bring it on!!

:rofl:

All the Dems have to do is say: what took you so long and take it over and run it through.

The Republican base would crucify the Republican leadership at this point because they have spent so much time stirring up the nuts.

It will never happen though.

I'll win the powerball first.

[leftstreet]

21. I would LMAO

:rofl:

[SolidGold]

22. What if ponies cried cupcakes.

It's about as likely as the repubs advocating for single payer.

[Gman2]

25. Obviously they wont get repeal, I mean how that would play.

[OHdem10]

24. The Republicans really do not believe it is a government role to

provide any form of HC. The only reason they pretend along
is they would cease to exist as a party if they do not do
something.

It must be free-market based, Our plan is basically a Republican
Plan.

They will propose some voucher system and you will be on your
own to haggle with the Insurance companies.

Single Payer would be socialism in their warped thinking.

[Gman2]

26. They might look at it liike, the cherry has already been popped, might as well win

politically.

[Gman2]

27. And we already know what they would do to win, look at Bushes drug program.

[mike_c]

29. nothing terrible about that at all-- it's one of my fondest desires...

...and I'd be among the first to thank ANYONE who does it. On the other hand, the republican party is so deeply in bed with corporate interests that they could only do that if they-- for all intents and purposes-- ceased being the republican party we all know and despise. I'd applaud that, too!

[salguine]

35. If the Republican Party is "deeply in bed with corporate interests", then the Democratic Party

is standing at the foot of the bed with only its shoes on.

[mike_c]

38. exactly, and very well put....

:thumbsup:

[unpossibles]

30. I don't think it would be so terrible, honestly. nt

[Gman2]

33. They would gain repeal, they would say, see, we told you be bipartisan

They would cleanse our minds of dumbassery. It is sheer genius. That is why they wont do it.

[unpossibles]

63. Oh, I agree they won't do it

But honestly if they did come up with a better plan, it would make me happy. Unlike them I would actually love to see them make some effort to pass good legislation, instead of just fighting for the sake of fighting.

[RainDog]

32. it would be poetic justice. Democrats offered up the McCain/Romney bill

so Republicans should offer up single payer public option.

and then the democrats could "cave" or claim bipartisanship.

[Gman2]

34. We mostly got what we could, given the circumstances.

[pundaint]

57. Not to mention the lack of sincere effort. You can't accomplish most of what you don't try.

[Stinky The Clown]

36. If they did, they'd be doing the right thing and I would cheer

Because it is the right thing, they'll never do it.

[Gman2]

39. But they do seem to judge a bill by weight, and number of pages.

They are always complaining about how long the bill was to read. God forbid numbers too.

[Leopolds Ghost]

40. People on DU would fall all over themselves opposing Single Payer. Many upscale Dems already do.

They already have health insurance and are primarily concerned with deadbeats (working poor who can afford premiums, aka the undeserving poor) increasing the cost of their premiums by making socialized ER visits (everyone knows socialized ER care is the reason costs are so high, right?) and making insurance too expensive for the "deserving" poor that need it. They figure "there should be a law", and there is. Insurance still too high for the "deserving poor"? That is the insurance industry's fault, since they are now required to sell insurance to the deserving poor, and the poor are required to buy it. why should government bail them out by assuming the costs of a failing health care system? "Everyone knows" means-tested programs like welfare and public housing only hurt the poor! "Only the Republicans and nutcase populists want single payer", they'd mutter. "Fucking crazies, just as bad as Ron Paul."

[walldude]

42. Hmmm..

Well, if the Hadron Collider went haywire and reality reversed itself, if the sun started to rise in the west, and night was day and day was night, and republicans pushed single payer... then I'd have to vote republican.

[Gman2]

44. Explain Bushes senior drug plan!

[Mira]

46. I would temporarily switch parties. N/T

[Gman2]

47. Thats ridiculous, they are still cavemen on every other issue.

[Mira]

51. I said : temporarily. That means until it is passed. N/T

edited to say:
The premise was ridiculous, as well.

[CLANG]

49. Either you forgot the sarcasm smiley or I'm a monkey's uncle!

[FarLeftFist]

50. WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN.....EVER.

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[Gman2]

54. Well, then theres that.

[Gman2]

55. Half the war budget. Get insular and it would be in the black.

[Iggo]

53. Then we win.

[immoderate]

58. They will have earned my vote.

--imm

[Zambero]

60. The Republican single payer replacement program

First, look in the mirror. What you're seeing is a single payer -- that's YOU my friend! Now, single payer, go ahead and single-handedly PAY your premiums, copays, and out-of-pocket expenses for denied or excluded coverage. Not to worry, the gov't is completely off your back here. It's really swell to have your "Liberty" back, isn't it?

[Festivito]

61. All but about ten Dems would vote FOR IT. Sounds good. Let's go.

However, Repubs would do so in order to destroy it. De-fund it, despite it being half the cost we currently pay. They'd spend extra money on keeping foreigners from using it and probably on half a dozen other ridiculous denials until it cost a fortune and would start to cost more than what we have now, then claim it was faulty from the start, let's go back to large insurance company profits while Americans die of no insurance.

But, we'd fight as Dems to have a good single-payer should Repubs decide to allow it. Still, ten Dems would try to undermine it. We could handle that with the Repubs on board.

Those dang flying pigs might spread disease.

[Pab Sungenis]

62. Since most of the candidates who would push that are already in Congress

we call their bluff and say that the Democrats will vote for R-and-R if they introduce Single Payer here and now.