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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:06 PM
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Right-wing mass message techniques (eg,"death panels")
The purpose of this thread is to list techniques you have observed and/or theories you may have regarding the effectiveness of the right-wing to convince large numbers of people of half-truths and outright lies.

I'll start. Please feel free to expand:

1) repetition and solidarity on any given talking point and novel ways of attracting media coverage. Phrases such as a "complete government take-over of health care" are repeated over and over again by numerous elected officials as well as TV pundits. Eventually it begins to sound like a fact.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:17 PM
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1. Cons/fundies/authoritarians etc often psychologically project. The criticism they hurl can be....
... self-applied; they attack the qualities they realize they themselves harbor

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x542371
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:25 PM
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2. And then repackaged and broadcasted through media.
Good article. Thanks for the link.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:59 PM
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9. To dovetail on that, Authoritarian Personality & The 'F' Scale test
Edited on Tue Mar-23-10 02:00 PM by Echo In Light
http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm

Those with an authoritarian personality tended to be:

• Hostile to those who are of inferior status, but obedient of people with high status

• Fairly rigid in their opinions and beliefs

• Conventional, upholding traditional values


Right Wing Authoritarianism: What Is the Allure in Being a Follower?

The right wing authoritarian personality has less to do with a political view than it does with a psychological personality structure.

Yale social psychologist Stanley Milgram defined obedience as the "the psychological mechanism that links individual action to political purposes", and called it "the dispositional cement that binds men to systems of authority." A decade before Milgram produced his findings, which dealt with the conflict arising between obedience to authority and moral conscience, a study on the "Authoritarian Personality" was undertaken at UC Berkeley as part of a an effort by leading social scientists to understand how, in a culture of law, order and reason..."a vast majority of people could and actually did tolerate the mass extermination of fellow citizens." That question had some urgency after the horrors of World War II.

During the past half century, this understanding of authoritarianism has been greatly increased through the efforts of social psychologist Bob Altemeyer of the University of Manitoba. Altemeyer found authoritarianism to be consistently associated with right wing rather then left wing ideology. It refers to people that overtly submit to the established authorities in their lives, who could be of any political stripe. They are the people that march in "lock-step" as opposed to those that march to "the beat of a different drummer."


http://cognitive-psychology.suite101.com/article.cfm/right_wing_authoritarianism

The Perils of Obedience
by Stanley Milgram

http://home.swbell.net/revscat/perilsOfObedience.html

Conventionalism – submission to conventional, middle-class values: "what would the neighbors say" type of behavior, as well as emphasis on hard work as opposed to creativity and different ways of thinking when attaining goals.

Authoritarian submission – submissive, uncritical attitude toward idealized moral authorities of the in-group. During discussions about politics, some of these people refused to acknowledge the responsibility for corruption of the high government officials, such as president or prime-minister, on the grounds that they "represent the country, so if you talk bad about them, you talk bad about the country". Also, these people expressed deep devotion to the parental figures, even when their influence was not constructive.

Authoritarian aggression – tendency to be on the lookout for, to condemn and punish people who violate conventional values. This variable was mostly expressed in the fear from members of other ethnic groups, such as Albanians, or people with unconventional sexual orientation: the promiscuous and homosexuals. When quarreling, most insults referred to some of these categories.

Anti-interception – opposition to people who try to see their reality more in terms of feelings, fantasies and by use of imagination, than by adherence to strict rules. The anti-interceptive person is described as afraid to think about this side of human nature in order to prevent oneself to think "wrong thoughts". Thus, the attempts to talk about inner feelings, as well as their initiators, were met with opposition starting from a seemingly carefree attitude ("I do not come here to talk about hard stuff. I come here to have fun."), and ending in breakdown of communication with introspective people.

Superstition and Stereotype – it is acute how some of the most extreme cases of suspected authoritarian personality that I met like to deal with subjects such as horoscope, former lives, numerology, sometimes to the extreme point of fear from black cats. The tendency to enclose one’s thinking by imposing "beliefs of mystical determinants of the individual’s fate," was often paired with use of stereotypes, such as ethnic or cultural. For example, westerners were described as sophisticated and cultured, while members of their own community as rude or uneducated. This went to extremes such as attributing the courteous traits to common U.N. soldiers stationed in Macedonia, and saying that gas stoves and some basic parts of a car mechanism that are used in America do not exist in Macedonia.

Power and "toughness" – preoccupation with a world view in terms of power and dominance-submission, strength, and identification with power figures. Examples include the following: "The lover I choose will be my slave", defending a obviously wrong point in an argument just to prove oneself right, or "I had dinner at the same place as the president. I should have walked to him and shake his hand."

Destructiveness and cynicism – generalized hostility towards humans. A classical example used in the F-scale was often encountered "No matter how they act on the surface, men are interested in women for only one reason." The theory goes that such an individual, harboring perfectly human impulses suppressed by external restrictions, turns the frustration into aggression.

Projectivity – defined as a disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things (projected emotional impulses), are committed by others. This also includes putting the blame of one’s own failures to communicate to others, as well as projecting ones own insecurities, such as "You are so stupid!".

Sex – concern for sexual activity, and result of interaction of other variables. Usually a supplement (reaction formation) for unsatisfied, sometimes willfully denied, personal needs.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:28 PM
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3. First rule, spread distrust in government no matter the cost and by any means necessary.
Edited on Tue Mar-23-10 01:31 PM by izzybeans
As a counter, the first rule for citizenship should be, never, EVER, vote for anyone who claims the government can't function. It's the exact parallel to hiring an employee who told you your company sucks during the job interview.

This is your government and you can make it work.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:34 PM
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4. Appeal to the emotions at the cost of logic/common sense
Forgotten are successful government entities such as the post office.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:38 PM
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5. 2) keep it short
The Republicans have mastered the abbreviated sound bite. It's not "Obamacare is a socialist intrusion into American Freedom", it's "Kill the Bill"; it's not "Democrats are promoting big government through disastrous fiscal policies" it's "Tax and Spend".
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:47 PM
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7. +1
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:07 PM
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14. Cornhusker kickback, gatoraide, The slaughter Rule
$5 off tanning sessions, etc.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:45 PM
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6. Buy as many media outlets as possible
This gives control of the message
Have business owners refuse to buy ad space on left wing media outlets to choke off funding.
Create asroturf groups.
Hire shills to push the riechwing message or shit on progressive ideals on left wing discussion boards.
Infiltrate and subvert religous institutions and distort its teachings/beliefs to support the cause..
Infiltrate and subvert local goverment bodies and agencies and destroy from within.
Willingly accept financial losses to advance any of the above.
Use phsychological manipulation to fuck with peoples minds.
Create mass distractions to take attention from real issues.
Refuse to acknowledge errors and mistakes.
Projection.
Use divide and conqueer tactics.
Push emotional triggers.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:47 PM
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8. +1
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:01 PM
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11. This is THE big one. nt
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:06 PM
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13. Agreed.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 03:09 PM
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19. I left one out.
Infiltrate and subvert the opposition party.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 04:34 PM
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22. Blue dogs?
And/or so-called "moderates"?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:00 PM
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10. Appeal to their ignorance.
Glenn Beck, or the Fox News PTB, knew their viewers were susceptible to the concept that Obama was communist because his administration had a lot of "Czars".

Glenn would tell his audience that historical Russia had Czars. True, this is an indisputable historical fact. Russia had Czars, lol. I can see the dunder heads nodding now. Then he reminded his audience that Russia was/became USSR the Soviet Union, the most powerful communist country ever and the most dangerous enemy the U.S.A. ever faced.

Of course Saint Ronnie single handedly saved us from the Soviet Union(with no help from the Democrats).

As a result of Beck's intentionally misleading these poor ignorant people he has them believing that Obama is a commie. Russia + Czars = Obama + Czars + Russia = Commie or something, lol.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:04 PM
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12. It's ironic that it was Nixon who began appointing "Czars".
Reagan and Bush 1 continued it.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 03:20 PM
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21. Glenn Beck is careful to never mention that. nt
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:28 PM
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15. Shames me to admit
That I overheard some Batshit Bleck this morning on AM radio. He and his dweebie cohort were playing clips of Obama's speech and disecting every little part of it. Like every 3 or 4 words it was "Stop right there", and bash.

Then the complaints about the collusion of of the 'liberal media' not reporting the facts about the HCR process and the tea party.

I'll paraphrase: The mainstream media failed to report how 4 SEIU 'thugs' went outside from the White House and beat-up a black tea partier.

I'll eat my hat if this EVER happened.

Please if anyone has any confirmation that is is remotely true? Anyone hear anything like this happening?

He put ACORN into a death spiral I'm sure the Service Employees are on the hitlist, too. You know those damn activist waitresses and hotel housekeepers should just be happy to be working and STFU.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:41 PM
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16. I just refer to them as the corporate media.
1. Republican or right wing points of view will virtually always be given the last word in any debate, discussion or news coverage of a political story.

2. Criticism of policies or pending bills will inevitably be focused from the perspective of the right while criticism from the
progressive/liberal side will be ignored or obfuscated. This is done to distort the American Peoples' political center of gravity; with the inevitable result of directing anger toward an even more rightward solution and thus keeping the nation addicted in a circular trap.

Ie; this bill is "socialism" or a "big government takeover" will be promoted incessantly, on the other hand "this institutionalizes privatization in to what should be public policy," "corporate domination of government" or "fascism" will be ignored.

3. Government it self will be demonized without acknowledging government by law as being the American People's true agent, the same holds true for any real concept of public good, except in the case of promoting more draconian security measures against the people.

The phrase "We the People" in referring to government will almost never be mentioned, Boehner couldn't bring him self to do it, reading from the Declaration of Independence while referring to it as the Constitution; he carries in his pocket, later when I tried to access that clip CNN had dutifully scrubbed it.

4. The corporate media subliminally accept the Republican label of "liberal media" while being anything but. This skews the people's perspective when the so called "liberal media" uses the adjective "liberal" to describe a political leader, the assumption to the viewer being that politician must be off the ideological charts. On the other hand the so called "liberal media" almost never uses the adjective "conservative" to describe a politician, the subliminal message being that person must be moderate.

5. When a progressive/liberal Democrat starts making serious headway on a point or begins picking up emotional momentum, they're inevitably cut off or interrupted for a multitude of reasons; to give the other side a chance to respond, commercial break, comment or over-talk from the host/moderator/pundit/interviewer, etc. etc. on the other hand a Conservative Republican will get a chance ramble on until the cows come home.

6. Slanders, libel and distortion will be repeated well after they've been disavowed or proven false sometimes even by the same corporate entity that had earlier buried a retraction in their paper or briefly corrected the falsity on a prior news-clip.

7. Photos, crawlers or background sets designed to distract or subliminally detract from a progressive/liberal guest's response this will also be used in reverse during a conservative response.

8. The use of code or keywords designed to elicit a long programmed emotional knee jerk response from the viewers, instead of serious, in-depth discussion regarding the pros and cons of policy substance or the legitimate merits of one candidate over another.

9. The continued non-disclosure of the corporate media's inherent pervasive conflict of interest; the money they make from selling commercials and advertising to the corporations and industries, they protect or promote.

10. The disproportionate amount of time given to candidates during televised debates with progressive/liberal being the most short changed.

11. The ludicrous, nonsensical, piss poor, in my view unAmerican propaganda questions, ie; "Why aren't you wearing a flag lapel pin?"

This is just a partial list.

Thanks for the thread, Cetacea.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 04:42 PM
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23. If I may add something
to your comprehensive list: stacking political "discussion" shows with an unfair majority of conservatives over liberals. This trend started in the eighties with "Crossfire" and continues to this day. I mostly see two conservatives, one weak-to-fairly-strong liberal, and a fourth "moderate" who in reality is a right-winger. Most times it is simply two or three to one. The fact that this is even allowed is a huge red flag.
Thanks for your list!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:01 PM
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24. That's a good and valid addition, Cetacea.
:thumbsup:

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:50 PM
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25. Very nice list.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:03 PM
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27. your post should be a thread
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:58 PM
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29. This reminds me of another
Produce television shows and movies that either promote riechwing values or use stereotypical caricatures that demean the other side.

One more-Create and mass mail those crazy emails
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 06:02 AM
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30. Thanks. I forgot about the mass emails.
Some of them are quite subtle in their delivery. Most are just blatant and equally effective.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:45 PM
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17. Work extremely well
nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 03:06 PM
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18. Bump
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 03:19 PM
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20. Charle's Pierce's Three Great Premises from his book "Idiot America":
(1) Any theory is valid if it sells books, soaks up ratings or otherwise moves units.
(2) Any thing can be true if someone says it loudly enough.
(3) Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:53 PM
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:13 PM
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28. Apologies = "I'm sorry if my comments were misinterpreted"
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