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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:19 PM
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Tenet swears the CIA doesn't torture anybody. Do you think he is being honest with us?
http://www.khaleejtimes.ae/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2007/April/theworld_April758.xml§ion=theworld

Ex-CIA chief denies US interrogators use torture

(AFP)

30 April 2007

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/03/11/george_tenet,0.jpg


WASHINGTON - Former CIA director George Tenet on Sunday heatedly denied allegations that US interrogators have used torture to extract information from prisoners in the so-called US ‘war on terror.’

‘The image that’s been portrayed is, we sat around the campfire and said, ‘Oh, boy, now we go get to torture people.’ Well, we don’t torture people. Let me say that again to you. We don’t torture people. Okay?’ Tenet told the CBS news show ‘60 Minutes.’

‘Come on, George,’ replied interviewer Scott Pelley, who questioned Tenet repeatedly during a tense exchange about accusations of torture, many from terror suspects held at the US naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

‘We don’t torture people,’ Tenet answered.

‘Waterboarding?’ Pelley asked, referring to a process whereby water is continually poured over a detainee’s face and mouth, causing a sharp gag reflex.

‘We do not -- I don’t talk about techniques,’ Tenet replied.

‘It’s torture,’ Pelley said.

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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:20 PM
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1. Nein
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:37 AM
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25. lol
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:21 PM
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2. LOL
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:21 PM
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3. Are you kidding? Do you think sweet honest people get to be CIA directors?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:22 PM
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4. Yes--the CIA themselves don't do it because that would be illegal
so they subcontract the work!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:23 PM
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5. Who ever after this would watch CBS (60 Minutes) or would support CBS advertisers??
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:26 PM
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7. It wasn't CBS or 60 Minutes job to call him a liar
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 12:02 AM by NNN0LHI
It was to expose him for the one he is.

They did that.

Don
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:29 AM
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21. yes, they did.
lying sack of $hit. For everyone to see on national TV. Doesn't detract from 60 minutes at all.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:25 PM
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6. I would sooner believe in the Easter Bunny.
Heck, I would sooner believe the officiating in Super Bowl 40 was completely on the level.:P

Tenet's respense to the question about waterboarding was a pretty obvious giveaway.

I'm hoping this is the beginning of even the inner-circle Bushites starting to turn on one another.:popcorn:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:34 PM
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11. They will.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:30 PM
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8. They don't call it 'torture', that's all
But the definition is the same.

WAR CRIMINAL.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:32 PM
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9. of course not, they have other people for that.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:40 PM
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15. That's right.
That's what the secret prisons program is for. Just another round of out-sourcing.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:33 PM
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10. Do I believe him? ROFLMAO
LMAO -- through my tears.

Hekate

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:35 PM
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12. Tenet is a freakin'
Edited on Sun Apr-29-07 11:37 PM by ProudDad
paranoid schizophrenic!!!

What an unbelievable performance.

He's a black/white thinker and paranoid as HELL!

"We don't torture!" What a self deluded nut case!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:38 PM
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13. Of course they don't. Just consider their long history of humanitarian service.
In:

Chile
Cuba
Guatemala
Honduras
Nicaragua
Vietnam
Cambodia
Laos
Indonesia
Angola
Mozambique
Congo
South Africa
Iraq
Iran
Greece
etc,
etc,
etc, and etc.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:39 PM
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14. Usually they hire other people to do it for them.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:47 PM
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16. Ex-CIA Director Bill Colby once told a friend, "Don't believe half of what I say to the press" n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:55 PM
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17. I think he needs to be waterboarded.
Edited on Sun Apr-29-07 11:56 PM by Crunchy Frog
Just to be sure he's telling us the whole story. I mean, it's not torture, and it is an acceptable "alternative form of questioning". :shrug:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:55 PM
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18. CIA rendered people to countries like Egypt, etc where they would have a spa like experience
and eagerly fabricate stories to please their keepers so they could stay there indefinitely and enjoy the ambiance and easy living. That's it, George, right?

An oldie but goodie from 2005: WaPo's Dana Priest on CIA secret prisons http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644.html
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:58 PM
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19. It all depends on what the definition of "torture" is. No, really, it does.
If Tenet's using the definition provided by the likes of Prof. Yoo and other scum lawyers, he can say "we don't torture" and say according to his definition, it is the truth - but by the definition normal rational humans use, damn right we torture.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:07 AM
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20. Not just NO.........
But hell no!

:puke:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:44 AM
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22. they render them unto others for the torture part...
but they do make sure that they've been bathed for the trip.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:50 AM
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23. Interesting eye twitch there, Georgie
Isn't the current BushCo definition of torture 'that which causes organ failure or death'?

Methings the Judiciary and Government Oversight Committees should start using the 'alternative interrogation techniques' on the Span, live, on people that they have subpeoned.

"Secratary Rice, please put on this bib, handcuffs, and blindfold and lean back over this tub. Now say 'ahhhhhhhh'".
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:35 AM
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24. Bwahahahahaha! Oh, yes, he's such an honest man!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 01:43 AM
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26. 100 years ago, we court-martialed a few of our own troops for "waterboarding" enemy prisoners.
Called it a "war crime" back before Hitler even had pubes, and
sentenced some of our own troops to DECADES of "hard labor"
for doing it to captured enemy soldiers.

Nowadays, it's just standard procedure since one of Hitler's
fuel-oil suppliers has a grandson in the Oval Office. And
torture is cool, as long as the torturer draws a USA paycheck.

We are the "antichrist". Y'all know that by now, right?

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 02:03 AM
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27. A hundred were killed by those "methods"
but they weren't really "torture"--???? Sadistic murders maybe, but not "torture." Of course he later denied any deaths in some narrow category of operations that he thought they were talking about, essentially an admission that the murders and torture took place the in other operations that he was not talking about at that moment. Maybe he was thinking about their lunch program at that time.

The CIA has a very dirty record of the most vicious tortures an brutal murders, but those, I guess, are "operational details" that can't be discussed in public. See the "Phoenix Program" for one example. Do a search, or see the documents at http://www.thememoryhole.org/phoenix/
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:33 PM
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28. He seemed to be parsing. "US" interrogators don't use torture. But he was not asked about
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 06:34 PM by applegrove
rendition. And wouldn't discuss water-boarding
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