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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:07 PM
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Steve King (R-IA) chases raccoon into blizzard, kills it with gas-operated semi-automatic handgun
Congressman brags about offing ‘crazy raccoon’ with Desert Eagle

By Sahil Kapur
Tuesday, February 16th, 2010 -- 12:18 pm

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/congressman-brags-shooting-raccoon-desert-eagle/

WASHINGTON -- Republican Congressman Steve King of Iowa says he doesn't take kindly to raccoons trying to take shelter in his home.

The minute King noticed a raccoon trying to weasel into his house last week, he grabbed his semi-automatic gun and chased the fleeing creature out into a deadly Iowa storm, firing away.

Clearly proud of what he did, he then posted this self-congratulatory message on Twitter: "Mid day, mid blizzard, 15 degrees, Crazy Raccoon chewing and clawing his way into my house. Desert Eagle 1, Crazy Raccoon zero."

Doubling down on his accomplishment, King this week told the Roll Call's "Heard On The Hill" his Desert Eagle was "the one I had handy" and said he refused to tolerate "an animal that might be sick, might be rabid, out there."

The Desert Eagle is a deadly gas-operated semi-automatic handgun that's capable of firing .50 Action Express caliber round bullets. "That’s one very dangerous firearm," said Ken MacKay, a police officer, of the weapon.

"That’s just what has to happen when you live out here in the country," King said of his momentary escapade, suggesting he was partly trying to protect his granddaughters.

Blogger Dis Ryan at The Earmark jested, "The first amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that government has no power to restrict freedom of speech, religion or the press. The second amendment says that if a desperate raccoon chews its way into your house during a blizzard, you’re allowed to blow it to pieces with a $2000 Desert Eagle handgun."

King claimed he saw the same raccoon trying to squeeze its way into his home earlier and worried it may be rabid or dangerous.

"I can’t have a crazy ’coon," King said, Roll Call reported.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:11 PM
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1. Operation Commando Eagle
He was an Eagle without underwear.

That said, it's not such a bad idea to chase raccoons away in the middle of the day. More than likely, it would have been rabid.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:15 PM
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5. Yep. 'wild' animals exhibiting odd behavior, particularly no fear of humans, might be sick.
Rabies happens.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:16 PM
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8. With raccoons, more likely Parvo, but no sense taking chances.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:18 PM
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11. Maybe it's an Oregon transplant
Our raccoons act like that all the time. They run all over town and are easily shooed away. No babies dragged out into the wilds yet.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:22 PM
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17. We have a gang of turkeys like that
The Turkey Gang is getting bigger too. Town pets. Not same as a raccoon attempting a home invasion though.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:48 PM
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103. MORE than likely?
Nice comment based on nothing. Ever think the raccoon might have been cold?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:13 PM
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123. Raccons are VERY nocturnal
It's HIGHLY unusual to see them during the day.

If you ever see one during the day, call your local Animal Services.

Yes. It's THAT serious.
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:12 PM
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2. Yeah, raccoons are so fucking vicious. Sometimes they bang on my
window and beg for food. Serial beggars, that's reason enough to kill 'em. Fuck Steve "Dan'l Boone" King with his own gun.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:24 PM
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19. Kills cats, chickens and such. Also known to carry diseases such as rabies.
Edited on Tue Feb-16-10 10:37 PM by Hoopla Phil
I'd rethink the idea of feeding them if I were you.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:27 PM
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21. Never feed wild animals, agreed
And put the dog food locked up. Raccoons usually only show up at the door around here when someone has made the mistake of putting their kitty food out there.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:35 PM
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34. Domestic animals are different looking up the law in your state is wise.
in NC it is illegal to kill them without a direct threat. Makes sense. I would be kinda pissed if my neighbor shot my house cat if it got out.

Of course on a farm different rules apply but still, I never felt the urge to kill domestic animals, even when they were a real problem.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:38 PM
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37. Perhaps my meaning was not clear. I mean that raccoons kill cats, chickens
and such. Raccoons also carry diseases. When raccoons get to close to our home on our family property we also dispatch them.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:44 PM
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43. Thought you meant cats.
if I see a raccoon I shoot it on the farm. There is no reason you should see one during the day. They have killed our farm cats and i remove them with a 22-250 or shotgun. Coyotes as well, they kill the cats too.

The cats keep the rodents out of the barn and are better at it than poison. Spent a long time convincing neighbors to leave the cats be (fix and release), most are converts.

The desert eagle seems a strange choice. twittering or whatever he did about it, even stranger.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:11 AM
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73. Raccoons are not strictly nocturnal animals
Even healthy raccoons can have periods of diurnal activity. The Wild, Wild World of Animals documented normal raccoon activity during the day. And the wild raccoons of Stanley Park in Vancouver, British Columbia, often come out during the day to mingle with visitors.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:58 PM
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50. When the neighbor's dogs became people aggressive
To me while I was on my own property, in the field and another day when I had to defend my old cat who was sleeping on MY porch, I would have shot them if my gun had not been in the safe. As it was, I had to fight them off with a hoe and was worried that the two of them would attack me.

The young men who have permission to go out in our woods and who work around the farm have my permission to shoot those dogs if they ever feel threatened. Only those two particular ones, but they are dangerous animals. On the other hand, I have never felt endangered by the coyotes and foxes that live here by right. They know to keep away from humans and I encourage that caution for their own good - and mine.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:05 PM
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55. I saw dogs that looked like you would do them a favor
by shooting them growing up. No way to take them all in. I never shot them, just never felt like it. Coyotes will kill barn cats. For that reason I do shoot them. I do not trap them.

Foxes I let be. Dont spent as much time on that farm house, but it is fun to visit.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:36 PM
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64. The strays and the dumped pets get taken to the animal shelter
In the past we've adopted many 'found' animals, but as we've gotten older, we no longer have own our dogs - I cannot play with them and refuse to leave a dog outside with little attention - that produces the kind of dog we have problems with.

The dogs that have been dangerous here - and we are no longer truly rural, we're surrounded by subdivisions - are pets that get little attention from their owners. The dogs have never been taught proper behavior, they have no respect for humans, and they think anything off their own property is fair game. Our horses will attack dogs - their dams attacked anything canine, but these were NOT canine aggressive until the aggressive dogs showed up. And the mares are not aggressive to the foxes - I even saw a fox using the horses' legs as cover while it was stalking crows, LOL! The horses just looked at the fox and went back to grazing.

Last year for the first time we had both red and gray foxes with kits. The red foxes have been common - this was territory for riding to hounds type fox hunting and they introduced the red foxes since they are better for that. But the gray foxes had a big litter here - three or four kits and they have now taken back our farm for their territory. Between our sixty acres of mixed pine and hardwoods, open pasture uplands and forested swampland and a neighbor's fifty acres of mixed pine and hardwoods forest, the wildlife has a great place to live. The subdivisions are even good habitat since they are 3-6 acre lots, some with conservation easements to protect the wetlands.

The only time I discourage the foxes is when they start to hang our right around the house. I don't really want them lounging on the front porch - which they would do if I let them! When we clear trees, we make brush piles for them to den in, so they have a great place to live, along with the deer, wild turkey, quail, hawks, and other wildlife. There has even been a bear hanging out in the woods, but I haven't seen it yet.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:34 AM
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 09:15 AM
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82. What you are doing is foolish
I can only ask you this. You ever seen a house pet with their guts hanging out after tangling with a raccoon? It is not a pretty sight.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #78
89. You are essentially insuring that racoon will be killed, congrats.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:55 AM
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98. Hand-feeding a wild animal is not only incredibly stupid, it puts the animal in a compromised
situation to survive and one day he might just take off your finger.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 01:07 PM
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:40 PM
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114. Excuse me but you may want to expand your knowladge base a little. Here is a start
http://www.jwildlifedis.org/cgi/reprint/38/2/313.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2572587/



"Summary—During 2007, 49 states and Puerto Rico reported 7,258 cases of rabies in animals and 1 case in a hu-man to the CDC, representing a 4.6% increase from the 6,940 cases in animals and 3 cases in humans reported in 2006. Approximately 93% of the cases were in wildlife, and 7% were in domestic animals. Relative contributions by the major animal groups were as follows: 2,659 raccoons (36.6%), 1,973 bats (27.2%), 1,478 skunks (20.4%), 489 foxes (6.7%), 274 cats (3.8%), 93 dogs (1.3%), and 57 cattle (0.8%). Compared with numbers of reported cases in 2006, cases in 2007 increased among dogs, bats, foxes, and skunks while decreases were reported among cattle, cats, and skunks. Increases in numbers of rabid raccoons during 2007 were reported by 11 of the 20 eastern states where raccoon rabies was enzootic, and reported cases increased by 1.7% overall, compared with 2006."
http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/docs/rabies_surveillance_us_2007.pdf



Raccoon Attacks a Cat - Caution, graphic pictures
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles/raccoonattackcat.htm

Raccoon attacks my CAT!
http://www.cats.com/question/cattales/raccoon-attacks-my-cat/

Pet Raccoon Attacks Homeowner
http://www.wtov9.com/family/13267561/detail.html

There are many examples out there. . .

Please, continue to feed the wild animal as you see fit. If you cannot learn from the mistakes of others perhaps you may eventually learn from your own.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:48 PM
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45. The racoon that killed 2 of my brother's cats certainly was.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:13 PM
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3. Wow someone actually found a use for that handgun.
Every time I fired one I tried to figure out what it would be good for. A 22 rifle would probably have been a better fit. Rabies shots are expensive, and not covered by insurance in some states.

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:26 PM
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20. LOL. Funny post. I remember shooting my friends
Desert Eagle once upon a time. All we had were lead reloads. Did you know that shooting lead bullets in a gas operated Desert Eagle will clog the gas port? We sure didn't. . .
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:47 PM
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67. Whaaaaat?
"Rabies shots are expensive, and not covered by insurance in some states."

NOT covered? Seriously?

Jesus tapdancing Christ... which states? What fucking jeanyuss (sic) decided that was a good idea?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:14 PM
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4. With a Desert Eagle?
Edited on Tue Feb-16-10 10:23 PM by YOY
Did tough guy use a squeegee to pick up afterwards?

When I was a kid I had to kill a rabid racoon in our family garage. Used a .22 L-S rifle. In hindsight I should have called animal control...but it was foaming and the dogs were going crazy. Better that I put it out of suffering than risk the family pets get infected. It was pretty scary actually. Not something I like to tough guy brag about.

Now a 50 caliber handgun? Some one wanted holes in his walls. Overkill. Disgustingly so.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:28 PM
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22. He may have just grabbed up the gun he could get to fastest. But yeah,
the .50 is really overkill.

"Did tough guy use a squeegee to pick up afterwords?"
LMAO!!! priceless!
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:28 PM
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23. Holes in the walls of his neighbor's house. Overkill, and damn dangerous and irresponsible too
22 LR is exactly what animal control used to dispatch a rabid skunk out front of my home when I was a kid. Skunk in broad daylight was always bad news.

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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 01:41 PM
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110. That was my reaction too...
Edited on Wed Feb-17-10 01:42 PM by BreweryYardRat
On the bright side, the coon probably didn't suffer.

Hope the Repug had a wet-vac...
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 01:59 PM
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111. If it was sick...those fluids can splatter.
I remember cleaning up the garage with some serious disinfectant in case any of the racoon's fluids or saliva remained.
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:15 PM
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6. That's odd, my semi-automatic handgun
isn't gas-operated. It runs on solar power. It's a green gun. :evilgrin:
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:30 PM
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25. It really has a gas piston, no shit. Not a browning blowback
Edited on Tue Feb-16-10 10:30 PM by Pavulon
design. To each his own.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:40 PM
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40. Yep, if if you shoot lead reloads in it the gas system clogs up.
Ask me how I know:)

It's not a gas piston but more like the gas system in the AR-15.
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 01:05 AM
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76. yea, it's a joke
My AK knock off has a gas piston, it just sounded odd as a heading. Let's face it, the line "The Desert Eagle is a deadly gas-operated semi-automatic handgun that's capable of firing .50 Action Express caliber round bullets." was almost certainly typed out by some reporter that didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when writing about firearms. :evilgrin:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:15 PM
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7. And if you live in the city?
Should you just run down the street, blasting away?

And if somebody's running down the street blasting away, then do you have the right to defend yourself and shoot back?

A raccoon. Good lord. And he thinks he's a tough guy. :crazy:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:18 PM
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12. How much experience do you have with raccoons?
Granted, .50 is overkill but they're vicious little bastards...and if they're rabid, doubly so.

A raccoon can really mess a human up.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:19 PM
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13. More than you, clearly n/t
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:29 PM
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24. Clearly not.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:20 PM
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14. What if one of the big hero's bullets had hit a child or a passing car?
God King makes me sick.
Plus what kind of a fucking arsenal does this guy have? Does he live in a fortress to stop the brown horde coming over the border walls?
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:32 PM
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28. What if the moon was made of green cheese?? What if, what if. That sure is a fun
game to play - What if? The fact is no one got hurt but the critter. Granted it was overkill to use a .50 but that may have been the quickest gun he could get to. Why? Maybe it was closest to the door after opening up the safe. But either way it is irrelevant. He did the right thing dispatching the critter.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:32 PM
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29. I assume like most wealthy people he owns land
and other than using a wildly overkill round endangered no one. A 22 rifle has been effective at that job for a very long time. Easier on the ears as well.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:02 PM
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53. There are literally raccoons all over my town
I'm not joking when I ask whether a person in town should act like King did. Keeping in mind we'd have guns blasting somewhere every night if you agree the only means to handle a wayward raccoon is to shoot it.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:08 PM
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56. Context. I have a farm house and shoot them if I see them during the day
because they are most likely rabid. If i see them at night I ignore them. Depending on your town rules, it is probably illegal to fire a gun in limits. Raccoons have a place and if they are not bothering me I ignore them. People who feed them might as well shoot them. It is impossible to tell begging from rabid behavior.

In town obviously I am not going to fire a gun for any reason except to defend my life.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:58 AM
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75. You're in North Carolina?
Yes, you have a much bigger problem with rabid raccoons than much of the rest of the country, including Iowa. I can't blame you for being a little more concerned. Still, I doubt you'd go charging through the streets blasting away if you lived in town. Or out into 15 degree weather in the middle of the night for that matter. It's really not necessary. If the raccoon was rabid, it probably died in that weather anyway.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:52 PM
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47. Who cares what kind of and how many guns he has?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:51 PM
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46. If someone is running down the street shooting at you then of course you can defend yourself.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:17 PM
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9. A raccoon acting like that, I might have been inclined to kill it, too.
But...not with a handgun.
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:35 PM
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33. Indeed
A 22LR scoped rifle is the appropriate tool if you are a good shooter, or a shotgun with birdshot loads if you aren't.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:42 PM
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42. Right on.
Or a trap, if it's legal where you are.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:55 PM
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49. I would have killed it with a handgun. My trusty Browning Buckmark.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:00 PM
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52. I don't have a handgun, is the main reason.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:16 PM
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59. My only .22 rifle is a big cumbersome 10/22 target rifle.
The buckmark is very accurate out to 30 yards. I can hit a golf ball at that distance anyway.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:14 PM
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58. I'd use the trusty suppressed Ruger 22-45 myself.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:17 PM
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60. Why bother the neighbors..(nt)
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:51 PM
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105. Yep, I agree.
Never misses!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:17 PM
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10. Oooooo, what a tough guy!
:eyes:

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:21 PM
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16. I know, huh? SWOON!!!
:eyes:
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:33 PM
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30. Please see post 18
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:57 AM
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77. Ha Ha Ha, you funny. Not a post on the O.P. but a personal attack. How typical. . .
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:20 PM
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15. He probably ate it and then made a hat out of the pelt.
Dopey fuck.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:23 PM
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18. Think I would have done the same thing. But
I don't have a Desert Eagle "hand cannon" to do it with. I would probably used my suppressed Ruger 22-45 for the job.

A raccoon is a nuisance on any occasion and kills many domestic animals such as cats. They also kill chickens and steel the eggs if you happen to keep chickens. They also carry rabies and other diseases. The guy did the right thing. Had he just run it off it would have been back.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:31 PM
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:35 PM
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32. Because maybe he grabbed up the fastest thing he could?
"any guy toting one of those has to have an epic case of micropenis" I'm sure you try not to stereotype people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:53 PM
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:58 PM
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51. I have 6 firearms within grabbing distance from me right now.
A target rifle, an assault rifle, a shotgun and 3 handguns. That way I won't have anyone question my manhood when I make my selection. :rofl:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:50 PM
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68. Dave, even you have to admit, that's a lot of guns.
I only have two within reach right now. :hi:
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:36 AM
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81. Yeah, but if I can ever teach the dogs to shoot I'll have my own private little army.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:06 AM
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86. Two words.
Duck tape.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:08 PM
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57. Reading is fundamental. Did I say he had a Desert Eagle laying
around in easy grabbing distance? No, I said "Because maybe he grabbed up the fastest thing he could?" Where in that is the "easy grabbing distance"? The two have very different meanings. It may have taken a rather long time to unlock a safe and then another lock box and then go to a separate lock box to get the ammo. Sure glad you try not to stereotype people. . .
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:31 PM
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27. "I can’t have a crazy ’coon," King said
too late, you already qualify
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:34 PM
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31. What a dumbass.
Although I've always wanted to shoot a desert eagle.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:36 PM
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35. Why dumbass? Please see post 18
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:31 PM
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63. Wrong tool for the job...
I'm with you, the Ruger 10-22 (which we also have and LOVE) would have been perfect. Although I'd probably have pulled out the Buckmark and for practice on a rabid coon.

BTW, once a coon finds a food source they ALWAYS return and usually with company.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:37 PM
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36. Let down. Expensive single action pistol with to much recoil and
not enough accuracy. An interesting curio but never could buy one. I always liked this model...
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:39 PM
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39. You're not missing much, honestly
It's a big bang and your teeth rattle.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:39 PM
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38. I hate raccoons and I hate Steve King.
I'm really conflicted about this.

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:41 PM
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41. Can we please stop the hate?
jking, carry on.
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:45 PM
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44. Ok, It is pronounced Rake-Ens.............and they are sooooo cute...n/t
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:04 PM
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54. What a nutcase
Edited on Tue Feb-16-10 11:06 PM by KingFlorez
Yeah, I said it and I stand by it, I see a lot of folks defending him on this, but I don't agree. It likely was some sort of attention stunt, this wingnuts can't go two seconds without being in the news.

And was there really a raccoon? Never can trust a wingnut to be truthful.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:27 PM
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62. I caught a mouse in a trap last fall...
That wasn't Twitter-worthy, and neither is his raccoon story.

Defend yourself/your property? Sure, but there's only one reason he would brag about it.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:38 PM
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65. Wait...the creature was running away? (that's what "fleeing" means, kids)
A Desert Eagle? Really.

Irresponsible gun-mad stupid douchebag. Sort of like me taking my .45 Officer's model and blasting Black Talons into banana spiders on my property.

Dumbass Republican. Oops, I repeated myself.

What's funny are "dems" defending shitwit Repubs because they used a gun to do something stupid.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:43 PM
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66. wow. a somewhat sensible repuglican.
my hat's off to him for doing the right thing on at least one occasion.

raccoons suck.
fucking vermin is all they are.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:10 AM
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71. Well, no, actually. They have a place, as do all wild animals.
I was approached by a half-grown raccoon while I was hiking in the woods once when I was about sixteen. I froze, and so did s/he. I slowly backed away, made a few quiet, reassuring sounds, and s/he took a few steps toward me, watched me for a minute or two, sniffed a few times, turned, and trundled off. There wasn't any threat; just mild curiosity. We used to let our dog run free in those woods; back then, this wasn't anything that anyone raised their eyebrows over, and he'd come running back at night, muddied up to his belly, with a huge ol' doggy grin on his face.

Everyone in my area let their dogs do the same thing. Maybe that's why we had so few rabid animals in our area; our dogs went out and killed 'em.

I don't get the wild-eyed fear of wild animals on this thread. All wild animals, even birds, can carry disease, including rabies, but there's no reason to show the sort of abject fear on display here, particularly for an animal the size of a small dog, fully grown. Wild animals can "smell fear", but in my experience, the smaller ones aren't any real threat. And, yes, before anyone asks, I grew up in the country, and hiked in the woods- unarmed- behind our house the whole time I was growing up. We all knew what to do and how to act, and it wasn't ever a problem. I don't recall any injuries, even minor ones.

One night I was walking down a dirt two-track trail near my house that ran under a line of high-tension wires coming from a nearby power station. It was just dusk, and the sun was slowly goldening its way past the horizon. For some reason- some muttering above me, I think- I looked up. There, perched on the towers supporting the wires, were probably about 150-200 turkey vultures, all settling down for the night. These birds were huge, much, much bigger than any raccoon. I've never seen such a large flock of birds this size. They didn't bother me at all- I think they were mostly asleep, or about to be- but I remember thinking that, if they decided to swoop down and attack me, I'd probably be seriously hurt or even killed. I know, I know- turkey vultures don't do that, but it was still a bit of a thrill. I wish I'd had a camera; it would have made a truly incredible nature photo.

Now, wild (or feral) dogs are a different matter entirely. Gun 'em down. They really are a danger, because they have no fear of man, run in packs, and attack without provocation.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:38 AM
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91. when they take up residence under a deck or under a roof- they no longer qualify as 'wild'...
in my book. they carry parasites and disease, and don't belong living amongst the human population. as long as they stay in the 'wild', i have no problem with them, or any of their forest friends.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:45 PM
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102. Have to agree on this one.
Raccoons are some of the most tenacious animals you can come across. They are incredibly destructive and are almost impossible to deter. I have repaired so many chewed up entry spots in my attic I've lost count. The armaflex on my refrigerant piping gets replaced twice a year because they tear it up trying to climb up the exterior wall.

I have a raccoon trap that allows me to catch and release, but it only works about 50% of the time. Twice my cats have been mauled by raccoons, once fatally. I don't own a gun, but if I did, I would shoot all raccoons I saw. I wouldn't take any joy in it, but I'd sure do it. Aggressive, destructive, disease-ridden. No use for raccoons.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:01 PM
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116. Sounds like
You have a good reason to purchase a gun. I'd do it. :D
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:13 PM
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118. I don't dislike guns, but I don't think they're for me...
I'll stick to traps and waving my fists in the air angrily. :)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:50 PM
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104. Could you post something dumber? Probably not, but you should try...
...an animal tries to get warm...yeah, kill it. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:20 PM
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112. you must not be a homeowner.
those filthy things can do a lot of damage, and spread diseases to pets and people.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:06 AM
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70. I don't like harming any creature if I can avoid it.
And I've never been proud about it on the occasions that I've needed to kill something.

However, if nothing other than the raccoon was endangered I would prefer that he use too large a weapon rather than too small. The intent is to dispatch it. Hopefully, with the least amount of suffering possible. On the rare occasion that I feel the a need to deal with a creature my preference is a 12ga. with the proper ammo to drop it like a wet dishrag.



That said, once the creature was dead he needed to burn the body. The few times I've had to kill diseased animals I even burned the gloves that I carried them to the burn-pile with.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:13 AM
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74. From the sounds of the story, though, the 'coon was just *cold*.
Edited on Wed Feb-17-10 12:13 AM by Occulus
I would have probably run it off, but I wouldn't have even considered killing the thing. It probably only wanted to get out of the storm.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 06:08 AM
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79. The reason for my original post...the firepower and the braggadocio.
I grew up in Massachusetts...at the time we had "garbage pails" in the back yard that the "garbage men" would pick up once a week. A metal pail fit into a cement enclosure that was sunk into the ground. There was a heavy metal lid that sealed the enclosure that you would open and close with a foot pedal. The raccoons always knew how to get into these pails. The only way to keep them out was to put a lock on the lid.

I know that raccoons carry rabies, I know they can and will attack / bite you, and that said...

...doing the math, and the fact that a blizzard was in progress, I'm gonna go with your conclusion, that this was a frightened little animal that "probably only wanted to get out of the storm."

I don't think it was a frantic, "28 Days Later" virus-infected animal that wanted to break into King's house and devour his grandkids.

But whatever the scenario, I posted the story because King seems to see himself as some kind of macho cowboy for blowing the ever-loving hell out of a little animal that may...or may not...have wished him or his family any harm.

He just ENJOYED it too damn much, and felt the need to BROADCAST his enjoyment.

That was the motivation behind my post.

:patriot:
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:11 AM
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72. Nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
.50 caliber - what a wimp!
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Zebedeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:31 AM
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88. Nuke the entire site from orbit - lol
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 06:14 AM
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80. OMG....not rabid and sick animals! It seems like overkill. Can't he even hunt and kill
an animal like normal? Or call Animal Control?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 09:17 AM
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83. "Gas operated hand gun? What are you talking about, a CO2 pellet pistol?
Because there are no gas operated semi-automatic hand guns. There are gas operated semi automatic rifles and shotguns, but no pistols. They would be far too big and bulky.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:28 PM
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113. The Desert Eagle pistols are actually gas- (as opposed to blowback- or recoil-) operated
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 09:20 AM
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85. Are they sure this wasn't Steve King of Bangor, ME? Sounds like it. nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:43 AM
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93. Actually, no. Doesn't sound like it, as that S.K. is very warm & big hearted
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:49 AM
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95. Yeah, but it sure reminds me of his stories. nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:52 AM
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96. In his version, the hunter would've become the hunted
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:13 AM
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87.  He just wanted food... and could smell the garbage in the house and was trying to get to it.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:36 AM
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90. Although I can somewhat understand his perceived need...
Although I can somewhat understand his perceived need to kill a raccoon, his braggadocio regarding it reveals much more intent than the action itself.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:40 AM
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92. Desert Eagle is a deadly gas-operated semi-automatic handgun
As opposed to what?

I have 30 handguns. I would hope that they are all deadly.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:43 AM
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94. What a sick fuck.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:58 AM
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99. How big is yours?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:10 PM
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100. At last, Caribou Barbie has found her running mate
:eyes:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 12:37 PM
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101. Frank Burns once killed a gopher with a stick. nt
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 01:17 PM
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108. That's nothing. I dual wield gold plated DEAGLES against hungry squirrels occasionally
But seriously, if anyone actually owns one of those overpriced armchair commando guns then they need to kill themselves.
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MidwestRick Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 01:25 PM
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109. Gotta be careful
especially if an elf.



-MR
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:44 PM
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115. So whatever happened to bee bee guns?
Good for chasing off little critters. If you need a semi-automatic for a raccoon, you're a really bad shot.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:06 PM
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117. what a brave man
:puke:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:27 PM
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119. In some ways I can understand him killing the raccoon, but bragging about it
is just plain nuts. It isn't saying much being a human being with a gun killing a fleeing animal.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:30 PM
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120. The Great White Hunter Strikes Again..
Be vewy vewy quiet....
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:39 PM
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121. Crazy is as crazy does......
King is a pretty contemptable (alleged) human being.


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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:52 PM
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122. Wrong tool for the job, wielded by a "tool" that's wrong.
With a $40 "Havahart" humane trap, we've relocated 4 problem racoons. If they showed signs of rabies, I'd hand 'em over to Animal Control - but they looked like normal 'coons, so I gave 'em the "executive relocation" package, to a wetland area a few miles away from us, without close houses - like a fishing access point.
My neighborly neighbor has taken his share of the problem - he's done 4 skunks with the same trap, and has not been sprayed yet!
He takes 'em to Wolfeboro, where they will only accept formally dressed, polite scavengers....

No heavy caliber bullets zingin' around the neighborhood, no dead, bleedin' critters to bury (illegal to place in household trash in NH!), no asshat blowhard braggin about killin' a 5 pound critter with a 10 pound gun.

What a maroon.....
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