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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:46 PM Original message |
Has capitalism killed the free press? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. An excellent question. It might seem therefore that capitalism contained the seeds of its own |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. No, a combination of bias and corruption did that..n/t |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So then, is it possible to be a herald to the people and still be a freestanding business? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. No more in conflict than the failure of our elected officials |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, capitalism didn't kill the press. It just keeps it as a dutiful pet. n/t |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. In the way the old USSR kept TASS, by chance? |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. In a manner |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So what's the alternative? IS there an alternative? |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I can't believe you are seriously asking that question while utilizing the INTERNET. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I am not a major news organization, so I fail to see the relevence to topic. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. EXCELLENT way of putting it |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Major newspapers don't hire social critics and Left-wingers. Simple as that. |
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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's mostly about supply & demand |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. So what you are saying is... |
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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Sadly, I think so |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That's tragic on so many levels, |
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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Or, as it appears, the free pess will try to sensationalize the news to profit |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. The market place of ideas is a competition to begin with... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
8. The press isn't dead, it's just that investigative journalism is not as important as American Idol. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Sounds like mission accomplished, to me! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. +1 |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. The free press throve under capitalism for decades |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Under REGULATED capitalism . . . |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
18. The "press" is more free today than it ever has been since the cost of publishing |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. No news value = no paper. Tv network news is going down too for the same reason. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Amen. This "The news I want to hear" bullshit reminds me of |
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Snow Bird (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. 1st you have to answer the question |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Agree . . . however, the money corruption and hyping of violence has |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. The Jerry Springerization of the press |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Essentially . . . |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. yup |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. The dollar bill kills everything it touches . . . but the CIA/Pentagon also had something |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
27. ever hear of william randolph hearst? think he wasn't interested in making money? |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Yes, I have. And that just begs the question. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
29. As long as "the press" is owned by private means then it isn't "free". |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Exactly. So is there a better way? Besides state control |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Don't Europeans buy "licenses" for TV? |
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Snow Bird (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Benjamin Franklin's broadsheets |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Do you honestly believe that he was like Rupert Murdoch? |
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The Gunslinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
32. yes |
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