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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:12 PM
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7 US States That Are Worse Off Than Greece, Portgal, Ireland, And Spain
The inevitable coming of the sovereign debt panic finally engulfed Europe this week as the derisively (or perhaps affectionately) named PIGS spilled their slop on the continent. But Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain are hardly worthy of so much attention. In truth, they are little more than the currently favored proxies among the leveraged speculator community (cough) for the larger problem of all sovereign debt. Indeed, the credit default swaps on these smaller European satellite states were not alone this week in making large moves higher. UK sovereign risk rose strongly, and so did US sovereign risk. With a downgrade warning from Moody’s to boot.

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I’ve identified seven large US states by four criteria that are sure to cause trouble for Washington’s political class at least for the next 3 years, through the 2012 elections. These are states with big populations, very high rates of unemployment, and which have already had to borrow big to pay unemployment claims. In addition, as a kind of Gregor.us kicker, I’ve thrown in a fourth criteria to identify those states that are large net importers of energy. Because the step change to higher energy prices played, and continues to play, such a large role in the developed world’s financial crisis it’s instructive to identify those US states that will struggle for years against the rising tide of higher energy costs.

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The seven states to make my list are California, Florida, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, North Carolina, and New Jersey. Each has a population above 8 million people. Each has had to borrow more than a billion dollars, so far, to pay claims out of their now bankrupt unemployment insurance fund. Also, each state currently registers broad, underemployment above 15% as indicated by the U-6 measure for the States. And finally, each state is a large net importer of either oil, natural gas, electricity, or all three of these energy sources.

Let’s consider the overall predicament for residents of states like California, with its epic housing bust, Ohio and Michigan at the end of the automobile era, or North Carolina and New Jersey in light of the financial sector’s demise. Not only have states such as these permanently lost key sectors that once drove their economies, but, residents in these states are over-exposed to structurally higher energy costs. The prospect for wage growth in the United States is now dim. We are already recording year over year wage decreases in real terms. The culprit? Energy and food costs. My seven states are squeezed hard at both ends: no wage growth at the top, and no relief through cheaper energy costs at the bottom.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/many-us-states-are-bigger-default-risks-than-europes-piigs-2010-2
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:13 PM
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1. the only reason I stay in Michigan is I am sitting next to the biggest water
supply in the world. and next=Water Wars.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:57 PM
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4. Sorta the same reason I'm hunkered down in TN
Within 1 hour of 3 different TVA lakes, but my water also generates electricity!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:10 PM
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5. I can see it now. "Saudi Arabia invades Michigan over auto defects ...real reason for invasion...
quashed by national news outlets. Saudi people protest over use of military for domestic transportation war when real reason is big Saudi multinational water corporation privatization scheme".
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:22 PM
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2. Oh, joy. Illinois made the list.
not looking good...
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:31 PM
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3. Wait! Wait! Wait!
America is so much better than Europe!
How can any state be worse off!


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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:14 PM
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6. Some of us are really suffering down here, yo. nt
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:11 PM
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7. Interesting
I think the net importation of energy is more a long-term thing - until the world economy takes off again, the increases in energy prices won't be that bad. But the other indicators, taken together, do look as though they'd make trouble when taken together.

And I think the idea of comparing US states and Euro currency members is valid.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:15 PM
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8. Good post
Rec
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:14 PM
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9. I didn't even need to look to know that my state heads the list....
eom
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:17 PM
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10. Me either
California is like a runaway train; it's only a question of when we crash. :(
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:19 PM
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11. And then there is the rest of us nearly broke dicks. Shoot 'em in the face is pretty much
digging it though, kicking back watching his teabaggers on cspan.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:21 PM
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12. It will be quite interesting to see the reaction of the Feds when one
of these 7 is about to default, and one of them will default eventually. My bets are on New Jersey or California as the likely suspects to do it first.

I have a feeling any bailout will be filibustered which will in turn destroy 20 other states in 6 months as the interest rates to roll over their debt will not allow them to fund any kind of budget, unless of course a federal guarantee is attached, which would likely be filibustered as well.
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