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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:51 AM
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Heads up: Don't Ask, Don't Tell Hearing: C-SPAN3 12pm ET
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 11:52 AM by Robb
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:01 PM
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1. Here's the senate link as well
http://armed-services.senate.gov/Webcasts.htm

I'm watching on the Pentagon channel
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:11 PM
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2. It has started
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:13 PM
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3. Levin's opening statement in support of ending DADT
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:18 PM
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4. McCain speaking now against ending DADT
Snort

Just too much of a hardship to end it now..yada yada yada blah blah blah unit cohesion bullshit

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:19 PM
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6. McCain you can serve, just shut up and serve, it has worked wonderful that way
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:20 PM
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7. McCain bigots are well meaning
Well, OK...he said there are well meaning arguments on both sides...but bigotry/discrimination is never - ever- well meaning
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:25 PM
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9. Gates speaking
Gates says he fully supports Obama's decision to end DADT

Quickly moving on to how to best prepare for ending it

Says ultimate decision belongs to Congress

Mentions the strain of 2 wars (meaning, the military is just too taxed right now to end discrimination)...hence the "study" of a "working group"....ready at the end of this calendar year

Working Group to ask the troops

I bet they don't ask me or my military family



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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:28 PM
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10. Jay Johnson/Carter Hamm..co-chairs for this effort
preliminary review last year


final detailed assessment to take place now (so, that's 2 years and waiting)




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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:31 PM
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11. Mullen speaking...so far saying nothing different from Gates


Talking up the review

praising Johnson and Hamm

Mullen thinks ending DADT is the right thing to do and feels the troops can and would accommodate the change

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:35 PM
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12. 1st round questions
Damn phone was ringing....don't people know I'm a hearing groupie?!?!?!?!

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:39 PM
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13. Moratorium on discharges during the up to year long assessment
Gates can't answer that now...pending the 45 day pre-looksee? or the year-long looksee?

Gates says current law won't permit it




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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:41 PM
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14. If McCain's ancient ass were to suddenly fall off his chair and expire
I'd probably cheer

Not wishing him dead, just figuring the odds
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:46 PM
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15. If legislation is passed to end DADT, military would need a year to implement it?
Was that the answer?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:51 PM
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16. Sessions is speaking. "Undue command influence" defense...
The twit is saying Gates and Mullen will present undue command influence upon those of lesser rank

Even though Mullen said his support for ending DADT was his own personal belief

Just told them both to not use their power to force the issue with the ranks

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:58 PM
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17. Someone say, "Happy Birthday, Solly"
Hey.....give me a bright spot while listening to some idiots.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:02 PM
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18. The hour is almost up..they allotted an hour on the schedule
there's another hearing on the 11th, yes?

12:00 p.m. – 1:00 p.m.:
To receive testimony relating to the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy.*


* Notice is amended to show a change in the start time and to show an additional subject matter to
be discussed between 12:00 p.m. – 1:00 p.m.




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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:04 PM
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20. Chambliss is speaking now. I know how thrilling that is for everyone.
He's opposed...shocker. Snort
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:06 PM
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21. Burrs speaking...so basic in human rights ( ending DADT)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:06 PM
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22. Collins speaking...Why does she always sound so scared?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:07 PM
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23. Allies, openly gay who serve...NO impact of effectiveness of military
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:11 PM
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25. Lieberman is up. He opposes DADT and supports repealing it ASAP
Gives Lieberman 2 cool points. (He's still working a deficit)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:13 PM
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26. Lieberman wants regular reports to Congress on progress of year long study
Gates said Yes

Lieberman claims they need 60 votes to repeal DADT




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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:15 PM
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27. McCaskill speaking
Do Gays/Lesbians serve?

Answer...yes


Any problems?

Answer...not broadly


Then what's the problem in ending DADT? (the gist)

She did good




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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:18 PM
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28. Reed remarking on how our allies with openly serving gays/lesbians
and there seems to be no problems


and does that add weight to the current discussion of ending DADT

Gates...they'll be talking with other countries but culture/society of each country must be taken into account (snort)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:21 PM
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31. Discussing impact, if any, on unit cohesion
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 01:23 PM by Solly Mack
Speaking as someone who has lived on army posts for a lot of years, the soldiers already know who is and isn't gay/lesbian and the units (multiple and widespread) I've been around have had no problems with it.


Now bigots, they impact unit cohesion.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:24 PM
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32. It's over....
Thank you for starting the thread!!!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:18 PM
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29. Happy Birthday Solly!
:toast:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:19 PM
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30. Awwwwww...How did you know? :o)
Thank you!!!

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:28 PM
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33. It just came to me...like in a dream...
...I must be psychic! Happy Day!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:29 PM
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34. I'm impressed! :)
Thanks again!!

lol
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:18 PM
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5. One year of 'discussing the issue'
for petes sake. rolling my eyes here.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:03 PM
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19. I got verbally spanked last week for rolling my eyes at someone who felt this hearing could produce
instant results eliminating DADT in the "hour plus or minus" that they were allocating to "discussing" it today.

The delay is ridiculous. And not implementing a moratorium on releasing military personnel during the "study period" is worse than ridiculous.

Thanks to Solly Mack and everyone else who is keeping us (me!) posted on what's going on with the hearing (no CSpan for me so I love the updates).
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:21 PM
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8. McCain is disgraceful. "I have signatures!" Disgraceful. n/t
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:08 PM
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24. Thanks for the link, I wish Dish network would carry CS3
:-)
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