A question about the pace of acceleration of the movement against us.

[peacetalksforall]

I feel the entire direction of the life that has been planned for us accelerating.

In this past decade we started questioning what was going on in this country in a very serious and time consuming way. Even before this decade started we had an election for President that was decided by the Supreme Court and we had blatant obstruction and theft of our votes and arrogance in the form of Republican companies making and selling voting machines that were rigged AND a Congress who didn’t care.

As we question, study, learn and devote ever increasing time to what is happening to us we keep going back in the century to find answers – hordes of students and teachers are informally teaching and learning trying to figure out what was going on. Some learned the past to understand the present. Stuff some of us completelyh ignored when it was going on. We studied-learned about Iran-Contra to understand who the players were who had returned to conduct the war on Iraq who were some of the sam players in positions during the assassinations of Kennedy, King, Kennedy, Allende, and many more - which involved learning about the CIA and finding out that there are two dozen intelligence departments in our government. We learaned about the warning of Eisenhower, the position of Bradley, and persons we now consider heroes, the questionable dealing of powerful Americans with Nazis that should have been called and addressed as traitorous acts when they happened, but weren’t. We learned who was who among propagandists, lobbyists, think tanks, tv guest experts, foundations, associations, jesters who didn’t mind acting like fools for the purpose of hate spreading, We learned about the wealthy who funded right wing campaigns. We studied scandalous decisions by those in power – monetary, environmental, governmental, corporate, media, military. We have witnessed unprecedented invasion by our country to take other countries away from their people and deport and imprison their leaders and then kill them or let them live as exiles. We are nearly knocked over the degree of arrogance and surprise.

It is as though the people who are doing what we’re doing don’t care – they only care about whistle blowers, leaks, locking their Presidential papers and wrongdoings by declaring them closed and locking them, including electronic, especially the electronic proofs and trails. Their infamous declarations of innocence convince their followers and help grow lies on lies. Facts and truths are sneered at and blessed. For example, torture was narrowed down to two facilitators who hold prestigious positions and get to keep them and their followers clap in support of torture. With joy. Joy in the heart from torturing people of other customs and religions – for corporations and because of the lie of superiority and the strength of the military and contractors and what would normally be called satanic planning.

Where is it all leading – to the elimination of the middle class and a barely sustainable life style for hordes of people along with the loss of rights to protest, to retain privacy, and civil rights which we were told were our natural and naturalized inheritance.

The pace of the takeover is accelerating fast. We don’t even have enough time to grieve or guess or dissect one action because they are all coming at us end-on-end and layered. We give enormous attention to trite happenings for relief from the seriousness of the other happenings.

We can see the differences in the police. They are operating from instruction and guidance that appears to send the message that we are the enemies and they can do anything unless it is caught on camera. Our legal representatives are fired for political reasons. Some deaths by the tazer tool are condoned. We are predicting policing by private firm mercenaries. There are stories about prisons ready and waiting for ….what? We hear about people picked off the street and imprisoned, Moslems and Mexicans in particular. Are they filling the privatized prisons or is there still space? We have thrown away equal rights. Tourism by air is dying because of mishandling by a new department called Homeland Security.that decides who gets to keep their job if the job is dependent on air travel.

We gave money to the rich as a reward for manipulating all the money for them and the life playing games that they invented to cause mammoth monetary shifts. All to make rich people richer and the monstrous reduction of the middle class and a growing mass of poor people. It is like they have already figured out how much of the middle class can stay in order for the rich to get richer by retaining opportunities for the remaining middle to spend their incomes to grow the richer class. Since they don’t want taxes, the wealth they are accumulating may pay their way for themselves and the middle class.

This movement against us is exquisitely orchestrated and aided by thousands to millions of people who have been groomed to lie right along with those with the wealth. They work for the wealthy without getting paid. In fact, they give money to the efforts, seemingly grass root movements or not, to spread fear and hate and lie about everything and everyone in our lives. They nearly convince their own that being robbed of pensions by those who are richer is a good thing. The lies beget lies.

Why is the pace accelerating? Liars don’t care that we know they are lying. Why are they living lies and demanding that we bow to their lies? Blatant mistruths. Savage mistruths. Mistruths that are fed by corporations from what we hear to what we put in our stomachs that alters our bodies.

Why can they afford to be so arrogant about it? How can they stray so far away from the Constitution and Bill of Rights while clinging to hate and fear, but ensuring that one of the rights is preserved – the one that applies to guns.

Is the pace accelerating because of the internet? Is it because the financial leaders who are behind it all are not meeting wealth accumulation targets they have set?

Or is it because we are learning about their game faster? Because we can conduct our own research and piece many things together before the propaganda tv networks and newspapers can get their talking points from the top, disseminated in time to take effect with their followers? Is it because we can predict what will be said to excuse what they have done based on experience and self taught knowledge about how things work from the obvious, from books, from our own guessing and informal ‘think tanks’? Do we have the experience because of the volume of scandals and thefts and lies that can be peeled down in a few hours? It is because we can recognize patterns and put puzzles together faster because of knowledge gained and retained?

If we are heading some place is it a complete takeover or a freedom based on knowledge and a propensity for not believing their lies? Is freedom possible by waiting for their lie loving followers to wake up? How drastic is our dilemma? Just how fast are we being pushed? How much time do we have to prevail against this agenda that is the ultimate in takeover.

[babylonsister]

1. What movement against us are you speaking of, besides the librul

media? Luckily we have our champions there, and the blogosphere.

[peacetalksforall]

9. What movement? The entire consortium working on many coordinated and somewhat dictated ways.

We more and less agree that there is an attempt in the country to spread the divide between rich and poor and grow the poor for the purpose of grand profits and the highest of controls. Subservience without protest.

How many need to be involved to accomplish it? Thousands into millions of 'certain' humans brought together through many campaigns to unite them (today we see the fear, hate, greed, arrogant crimes, arrogant lies, arrogant coordination and abuse of law). Entities. In banking, investment, fed.reserve, corporations, foundations, associations, societies, think tanks, military, media, 'reverends', intelligence agencies, politicians, judges and all the people groomed for some of the smaller jobs - civic, city, county, state, school boards. And especially the churches and temples.

They sneer at community service while they pursue it successfully because we don't see the big picture of how they do it. Things have come together for them. They are tightly knit. They have had thousands of successful milestones while floating above the law and turning everything around to make it look like we are the people committing the crimes and deeds they are committing. It involves the world, not just us. We've seen the corporations, politicians, intelligence, military, media working together to conquer other countries by taking over their leaders first and making friends or the most ruthless of their military leaders. The pace of meddling in other countries has always been on a fast trak. The pace hasn't accelerated there - it was always in full gear. It's the pace within our own country with us. You can feel it hammering at us. It's not all under the radar anymore.

The only superiority in this country that I recognize is technology and work ethic - the technology was given, shipped, traded, sold, and stolen from us. Jobs shipped to poor countries for the period of time needed to slap us down, especially the unions. Registration outside borders to get around laws, lawsuits - employee policies, pollution. Profits parked outside the country. Incompetent care of the money requiring the sale of the country to other countries. And the greatest heists of any century.

A tv political talk show is a little window on the coordination. A politician, an expert from a think tank, a salesperson from a think tank or foundation, a reverend, investment experts - they work hard to get where they are. ALL 7 networks are owned by this consortium for the purpose of succeeding.

[alp227]

2. K&R. excellent rant.

With all you've been saying escalating by the second, maybe something bad WILL happen when 2012 nears its end.

[cliffordu]

3. If you....

Bought a new car on credit, shopped at Wallmart, bought a computer retail or used a credit card, your entire peice is moot.

You're already owned, lock, stock and barrel.

Until this nation can do without the major corporations, they will rule this country.

[peacetalksforall]

5. Bought a new car on credit, shopped at Wallmart, bought a computer retail or used a credit card, you

Not me. But you got the point.

We are enemies of a consortium which includes, but is not limited to corporations.

[cherokeeprogressive]

12. Bullshit.

What do you mean when you say I'm "owned"? I owe a small note to my credit union for my Chevy Tahoe, own a Harley-Davidson which I bought on credit and paid off, and own a boat that I bought on credit and that is now paid off. I shop at Walmart when I think they have something I want at a lower price than can be had elsewhere, and use American Express Gold and Platinum cards when I need to, then pay them off either at the end of the month or the next.

Who "owns" me, "lock, stock, and barrel"? By "lock, stock, and barrel", I assume you mean every aspect of my life, as would be the case with "hook, line, and sinker". Who owns me, and what would the consequences be of "being owned" by someone?

Am I not free to travel wherever my travelin' bone takes me? Granted, I can't go directly to Cuba from the US, but I can from Mexico. Am I bound to conform to a daily routine defined by someone in some corporate headquarters? Should I be afraid to speak my mind in a public place lest I offend "The Powers That Be", and be punished for it in some way?

Seriously, I never understand what people mean when they say things like you did, with your "lock, stock, and barrel" reference. It's the same when I read DU comments cheering the "end of the Empire". What does that mean? Does it mean that the trash won't be picked up next Tuesday, as it usually is? Will I be subject to periodic blackouts? Will my paycheck be worthless when I take it to my credit union? Will the gold I own be confiscated?

I ask these questions in all seriousness. I'm doing okay, live in an out of the way place, have a fairly bright future, and can't understand what it means to be "owned" the way you say I am.

[cliffordu]

16. I'll bet you use a nationally advertised brand of deodorant,

Face it:

You cannot live your life without multinational corporations. You cannot drive your car, gas up your hawg, brush your teeth or fucking work your job without them.


They are as neccessary as air in this country.

They own us all.

If your garbage stops getting removed what are you going to do? if your gas stations run out of gas - like in '74 - a manufactured shortage - what will you do?

Shoot people in line for the next gallon of gas??? People went psycho. Then the gas flowed, and order was restored.

All they have to do is squeeze a little and you jump to the tune of five bucks a gallon. You're so free you couldn't refuse to pay it.

Whattaya gonna do, give up your hawg??

If they want 10 bucks a gallon, you'll pay it. Ain't freedom grand??

[bobbolink]

4. Let the frog boil!

A while ago, I seriously came to the conclusion that the slower pace of raising the heat was doing more harm.

It will certainly be ugly, but "accelerating the pace" and having the frog boil may be the only way of saving this nation.

[seeinfweggos]

17. then excuse those us who are working to make things better, sorry for the inconvenience

to your naderite fantasies.

[bobbolink]

22. you're excused

[bobbolink]

23. you're excused

[90-percent]

6. Thanks

Damn good essay! Cogent, insightful, reasoned, well informed truthful.

I'm starting to try to engage the supermarket bag boys in discussions about the Supreme Court Ruling and other events indicating we are about to become a totalitarian police state. The infrastructure of which is being built presently at an ever increasing and more and more obvious pace. They aren't even bothering to cover it up any more.

-90% Jimmy

[stray cat]

7. Actually we are all in on it - you are the only victim in the world - everyone else is part of the

conspiracy

[me b zola]

8. K&R

[jotsy]

10. I sense the beast has stopped to scratch, something has made something of a difference.

The last graph of your amazing post asks five questions. What follows are responses, but not necessarily answers, if I had those, I'd be more economically viable than my anorexic wallet implies.

Q1 There's an impending tension in the air, confusion becomes uncertainty as the msm cheers on our road to economic recovery while we try to reconcile that with what we see around us, the ever expanding empty turf where businesses used to be.

Q2 An interesting part of the divorce process for me was coming to terms with how much of a mistake I had made. We must divorce ourselves from the notion that everything we've been told about what's important or noble is gospel. I don't see waiting for a public that prefers to be low information citizens as an active step.

Q3 I suspect we're about chin deep and kicking hard, but getting tired. We just need water to stand in long enough to catch our breath.

Q4 If we're being 'pushed' it's in order to see us act out, and then we know the worst of the rumored facilities and other militant mechanisms is true, then the hell other nations have endured will be a thing we know first hand. If we're being 'squeezed', and this scenario, I prefer by far, well that means to me they still have something we want. Our job and likely survival as a free and independent people depends on figuring out what the hell that is and making sure they never get their greedy well groomed goobers on it.

Q5 It ain't like setting a clock or flipping a switch, how to prevail will change from moment to moment, we stand on principle, they stand on the imaginary ground of derivatives, which will not sustain the weight of their too big to fail egos.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

11. +1000

[peacetalksforall]

14. It's necessary to dismiss tinfoil hat haters and informally enter a think tank to figure out

how far they are going to go. The first that is obvious is that they will not tolerate protests of any kind. That comes down to changing laws and burning the originals of Constitution and Bill of RIghts and tossing all the Congressional Reocrds that enforced and modified the original.

This is what the Federalist Society is doing every day. Rewriting the Constitution and B of R. (I have no doubts that everything Bybee and Yoo said came out of the FSociety = that is their purpose - be told what the highest-up want and figure out how to do it from the legal angle. Just like what is going on between corporations and think tanks. Foundations and think tanks. They are the ones to figure out how to get it done. Wouldn't be surprised if J Leiberman was in on it).

So do they keep rolling it out piece by piece or will there be a blow-out announcement - after thay have enough mercenaries and have contracted for the transportation of protestors to the prisons? (Protesting is where we know there is an accelerated pace of control).

In the prisons, the guards will be contractors working for the wealthy private owner who will be partner-associates with companies manufacturing prison tools and gadgets and brutal perimeter technology. Who will pay the contractors? That will be the wealthy after they know that they are free of lawsuits and courtroom fights. They will allocate a certain part of their riches for the assurance that no one is going to march in front of their building, yell nasty things in their face, wear pink, carry signs, put up signs on the overpasses or burn cars or block their residence. They will bring some of their money (that is parked in little countries all over the world) home and they will concoct their own rules - in the open - investing in each other - free of taxes and limitations. And no one will peep, especially the ones who have disappeared in the ocean graveyard.

Or - is the ultimate when -
they will also have new riches to pay for security when they won't have to pay transportaiton costs all over the world to and from countries with the lowest supply costs, lowest factory management costs, lowest constructions costs, and no pay-offs since their people will be in charge. They will own all the factories around the world and the factories in one country will only make things from the earth resources in that country - so that there is only one way transportation to the countries that are using and relishing the treasures or necessities, except when they have to have parts and ingredients that they can't possibly provide. All alalysis will be automated for the purpose of the ultimate in profits a worldwide bases without much in the way of negotiating and payola of the presentld kind.

World domination. With the idea that control means reduced costs in all aspects except policing. That's where the job will be if you have the stomach.

Reminders of USSR and People's Republic. Was a deal made in the 70's to flip the riches and then settle then all down when they end up with the serf servers.

A lot of people who have good jobs serving the rich now may not be as needed except in policing. It's a new look at what could have been in the USSR and People's Republic, but now they are coming up to a point that will meet us, coming down.

[bridgit]

13. The internet is part of it, but life is accelerating in response to 'the respondent mind'

'the respondent mind' drives the pace of that acceleration and in certain cases it's deceleration. But if the mind does not respond, others with...maybe even corrosive agendas will simply interpret that as apathy. It is into that breach any as such Byzantine intrigues perceived as "takeover" are sown and begin to grow. So that like defensive driving: vigilance remains key. Though 'vigilance with respect to what?' I hear you asking

With defensive driving as a preliminary baseline we know what that is. There's no more call to expend whole spans of time to reckon it, pattern it, turn it in 3-D space, fit that piece into a puzzle (that I hope we've been gluing down as we go) cause it's *that guy*, the guy that races right round from behind us in grid-lock up the shoulder spitting gravel on the Hwy at 80mph just to get 3 cars ahead - that guy, that guy is assuredly accelerating the process. Hm, odd however...

To be paraphrasing a known republican word-chopper like Rumsfeld but crazy drivers being out there is 'a known known'. And that's how they do it. They exude 'knowing' whether they *know it* or not. Certainty, certitude. They extrude shit onto the podium in public; then accuse others of taking that crap until people actually believe it

With respect to vigilant freedoms - however - too many Americans were never concerned till they seen someone else pack them up and take a step toward the door

I used to perform longitudinal data recovery. A process where policy/legislative/social science researchers ask for verbatim, nuanced, detailed follow-up and so I'd call back into the homes of folks and ask if they'd be interested in providing any detailed verbatim expansion to a specific sample question either skipped, left open-ended, smudged whatever - just to make it right

The question researchers were keyed on in the sample dealt with 'personal privacy', and this was maybe 5 years ago

Spoke with an elderly WWII veteran American boy - his voice and playful country gruff-ness reminded me of my Dad - and spoke with a naturalized Russian emigre now living in the states: Sergei - 5 Masters Degrees - Poli Sci, Econ, Philosophy, Russian Lit all thickly accented heavy stuff

The ole American boy agreed and we talked for a time about this & that but soon I had to work it back around to the verbatim, "Why do they need to know that?" "Those people get paid too much money!" And that is when I maintain collegiality but 'go flat' for the sake of the sample - it was my going flat that accelerated his response, "You just tell those people that I have a right to not have my mailbox rifled by these kids on their bikes all day anytime they want to. You tell them that. You tell them that's what 'personal privacy' means to me." "Yes, Sir, thank you for your participation. Policy researchers will..." "Yeah, yeah, yeah." "And thank you for time as well, Sir. Goodbye." And that was it 'personal privacy' - American Style

Sergei had more than an opinion, Sergei had a pop-treatise on the matter ~

"'personal privacy' is entitlement provided by state or society to citizen..." And off we went. I felt like I was walking through The Hermitage. Before standing with Sergei in the chill of Stalingrad's falling snow. Maybe I'm too high strung and write, read, and pattern too fast which was good cause Sergei had me filling the back of the screen and upside down into the margins

It's sometimes more than asking two people to describe the same rose garden. As these exchanges left me with the clear impression that freedoms are viewed completely differently by people that have presumed their existence and inalienable viability all along; and people that have had little or no access to them. Quite beyond apples & oranges. It can be red roses...and blood red roses

So if they think that http://voices.kansascity.com/node/7424">convicted, murderous sociopaths are the drivers for their "takeover" then everyone that has supported them is an accomplice to that perversion. And republicans know it. That's why, and especially after asking Obama to come on over and spank them for being so stupid; they have fallen so blissfully silent for a time as they are stunned by this murderous, ill-fruit they have sown. Their smack talking ill-fruit has made republicans less certain

Maybe they're re-tooling after their coo-coo boy went down so hard cause you know they were acting like he was a canonized saint about to get probation, community service and an ankle monitor...but that didn't happen - or looking for Luntz to attach an even *happier smiley face* applique :7 onto that stale, tired-ass old "takeover" of theirs but I'll tell you this,

Americans will not have to endure any more "takeover" than they haven't already signed off on by way of their acquiescence to 'the respondent mind' searching for ways to make freedoms more expeditious, concise and personalized, oh yeah. It's accelerating and not all for the good nor in ways yet labeled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhRJ8ZsEJgw&feature=related

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. The Gulag Archipielago

read that book, and think of one not in the physical world, but in the realm of the mind.

1984, and there you go

[seeinfweggos]

18. D minus nt

[peacetalksforall]

19. Why not an 'F'? :o)))))

[seeinfweggos]

20. it had a couple of good points. so you pass - barely

[peacetalksforall]

21. Thanks for 'splainin, Teach.

[TheWatcher]

24. See, this is what I don't understand.

This kind of response is completely worthless.

The OP was quite long and thoughtful. If you don't agree with what he said, why not try to put together an intelligent response offering a reasonable counterargument?

This isn't a Yahoo Chatboard.

Grow Up.