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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:35 AM
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Wow, who could have imagined?
Who could have imagined shit could go so wrong, so fast? Under a democrat no less... It seems we are witnessing the end of functional American politics. At this point all politicians are merely corporate proxies. Good luck to us all.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:38 AM
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1. Well God Bless Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul
Outsiders in the HOUSE!
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Nancy Ruth Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:04 PM
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8. I have a sinking feeling...
am I the only one who is seriously wondering if we've been the victims of the biggest con game ever?
Was Obama merely saying the right things to fire up the electorate and fool them into believing that things might change?? I trusted in him so completely, and now I am just depressed at what is happening. Manchurian Candidate, anyone? I honestly feel that we've been duped. I hope someone can change my mind...please.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:14 PM
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17. In 2012 Obama will be a better choice then the GOp or the Green
That should be enough to bring us all back to the booth and secure another term.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:55 PM
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20. Secure what ? Bushs 4th term
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:23 PM
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28. yup
securing Raygun's legacy..
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:16 PM
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23. Welcome to DU.
And you are certainly not the only one feeling this way. Count me in.:hi:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:12 PM
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25. I'm not God Blessing that shitbag Ron Paul.
Economically, he talks out of two sides of his mouth. On one hand, he speaks of the ills of "corporatism" and "offshoring" but is pro-deregulation to the core and is only against offshoring because he's also a "keep-em out border closer". I'm not against other countries making a living - it just shouldn't be at the expense of our middle/working/poor classes, especially during a time when 17% of the country isn't working.

The guy also praises Reagan and poses with him in his campaign flyer. Ugh.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:39 AM
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2. "Ya gots to give me & my republicon cronies credit for the setup. Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 11:41 AM by SpiralHawk
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:44 AM
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4. + Infinity
Obama inherited the mess. He didn't make it. He certainly wasn't the engineer that missed the signals, blocked tracks, oncoming train, etc. etc. etc.

A sampler:

Know your BFEE: It wasn’t Obama who Looted the Treasury and Banks. It was Bush and his Cronies.

Know your BFEE: Goldmine Sacked or The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One

Know your BFEE: Phil Gramm, the Meyer Lansky of the War Party, Set-Up the Biggest Bank Heist Ever.

We the People Need Jubilee: Lion's Share of the National Debt Incurred under GOP Pretzeldents

Henry Paulson, Banker to the BFEE

Now, my problem with Obama, he's trusting the same guys who caused the mess to fix. Uh uh. Not gonna happen. He needs a new Sheriff and deputies.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:04 PM
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9. but it is Obama that keeps the crooks that took down our economy ..at the drivers seat now!
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 12:50 PM by flyarm
if a builder fucks up my job and destroys my first house..do I hire him again to build my new house?




This Fed Chief Brought to You by Enron
By: emptywheel Monday January 25, 2010 7:59 am

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/01/25/this-fed-c... /

Just wanted to throw two tidbits into the debate on Ben Bernanke’s reconfirmation. First, this quote, which needs no explanation.

In the event that Bernanke isn’t confirmed, several sources say, Federal Reserve Board Vice Chairman Donald Kohn likely would be elevated to acting chair of the U.S. central bank. Bernanke would be entitled to stay on the board until his term as a Fed governor expires in 2020, but the sources said Bernanke could instead return to a professorship at Princeton University.

Possible successors to Bernanke include three people currently advising Obama on the economy, former Fed chief Paul Volcker, Larry Summers and Christina Romer.

Kohn was traveling in Europe at the end of the week on Fed business, but strategy on the Bernanke confirmation was being led by former Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson, who is viewed as an effective advocate for the banking chief on Capitol Hill.

read the rest at the link



edit to add...



see the comments by :


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JasonLeopold January 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am
15

Feb 22, 2001: Enron chairman Ken Lay and Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson met with energy task force executive director Andrew Lundquist to discuss energy policy.

April 17, 2001: Enron chairman Ken Lay and Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson met with Vice President Cheney for 30 minutes to discuss energy matters, including the California energy crisis.

April 20, 2001: Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson sent an e-mail to White House economic advisor Robert McNally.

May 23, 2001: White House economic advisor Robert McNally met with Enron lobbyists Linda Robertson and Richard Shapiro.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:43 AM
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3. No one I know imagined this turn of events. nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:02 PM
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21. Some of us did

Though I must admit that none of up thought it would be this blatant. Gotta admit that I'm amazed that so few crumbs have been thrown to the people. Makes ya wonder if re-election is even in the game plan.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:16 PM
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29. Yep, more crumbs expected here, too. n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:51 AM
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5. The little man is being forced out from behind the screen. nt
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:55 AM
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6. I imagined it..easily..the moms and grandma's were told to stfu..during the primaries..
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 11:57 AM by flyarm
we tried to warn you..this guy had no excperience ..but wtf did we know eh?

Every woman my age that i know, knew this was coming!

But remember we were called nasty names and were threatened when we warned of this!
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:02 PM
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7. Lack of experience isn't the problem
The nature of the issue seems more rooted in character or philosophy. No offense, but there's no evidence Hillary would have been the savior of the left either.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:06 PM
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10. it is all of the above. What did you really know of Obama's character?
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 12:07 PM by flyarm
or his Philosophies?

If you knew ..then you knew more than most people who searched and searched for info about him and his character! and his experience and philosophies.

What i did know after doing extensive research..he is a liar and he has lots to hide ..because he hid all his records!
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:07 PM
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12. You got me there
:shrug:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:16 PM
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26. Hillary is even less of an economic progressive than her husband was . . .
. . . if that's even possible. I never supported her because of her war votes, her past associations with free trade groups and her support for job offshoring. Could you imagine that at a time when 17% of the country is unemployed?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:06 PM
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11. The liberal wing of the Democratic party has been asking why for the last 8 years.
Too many times we've been left scratching our heads and saying WTF. The pressure has been building for quite a while and the dam finally broke. What we're witnessing is the natural outcome of having only 2 parties. Opinions in society are just too diverse to be represented by only two parties especially when one party strays too far away from center of it prime constituency. There's been too much right wing in this left wing party.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:07 PM
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13. It began when...
we thought, as a Party, that we could triangulate and win elections. We surrendered our principles.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:22 PM
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27. So true n/t
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:08 PM
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14. Well, me actually. And I got flamed here at DU for trying
So fuck me runnin' I guess.


But I do love the chance to say "Toldya so!" neener neener neener
Seriously though: We do need an opposition party. This corporate uniparty crap has ruined us, I fear.

Make other plans.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:10 PM
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15. McCain/Palin voters
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:13 PM
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16. A few months ago there were a lot of posts on DU saying the republicans were done,
that they were going to lose more support,etc. It is sickening that we are looking at loosing 8 senate seats. Now with the SCOTUS ruling, it looks like the house will go their way.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:16 PM
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18. Anybody who was there to watch Carter and Clinton could imagine it. nt
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:55 PM
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19. YES AND WE DID. In fact we warned about it only to be called names and told to stfu!!
but don't worry now..we have all the crooks surrounding our white house ..and even the resurgence of enron folks!!

but never ask questions..just keep dreaming about a thing called hope and change..and ignore real "facts"


even Goolsbee was brought back out this morning on MSNBC after his co-hort got his nuts cut off last night by Racheal Maddow!..and he begged for kindness this morning..brought tears to my eyes i tell you!!....


This Fed Chief Brought to You by Enron
By: emptywheel Monday January 25, 2010 7:59 am

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/01/25/this-fed-c... /

Just wanted to throw two tidbits into the debate on Ben Bernanke’s reconfirmation. First, this quote, which needs no explanation.

In the event that Bernanke isn’t confirmed, several sources say, Federal Reserve Board Vice Chairman Donald Kohn likely would be elevated to acting chair of the U.S. central bank. Bernanke would be entitled to stay on the board until his term as a Fed governor expires in 2020, but the sources said Bernanke could instead return to a professorship at Princeton University.

Possible successors to Bernanke include three people currently advising Obama on the economy, former Fed chief Paul Volcker, Larry Summers and Christina Romer.

Kohn was traveling in Europe at the end of the week on Fed business, but strategy on the Bernanke confirmation was being led by former Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson, who is viewed as an effective advocate for the banking chief on Capitol Hill.

read the rest at the link



edit to add...



see the comments by :


xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

JasonLeopold January 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am
15

Feb 22, 2001: Enron chairman Ken Lay and Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson met with energy task force executive director Andrew Lundquist to discuss energy policy.

April 17, 2001: Enron chairman Ken Lay and Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson met with Vice President Cheney for 30 minutes to discuss energy matters, including the California energy crisis.

April 20, 2001: Enron lobbyist Linda Robertson sent an e-mail to White House economic advisor Robert McNally.

May 23, 2001: White House economic advisor Robert McNally met with Enron lobbyists Linda Robertson and Richard Shapiro.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:13 PM
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22. Who could imagine......
Frank zappa

It can't happen here
It can't happen here
I'm telling you, my dear
That it can't happen here
Because I been checkin' it out, baby
I checked it out a couple a times, hmmmmmmmm

And I'm telling you
It can't happen here
Oh darling, it's important that you believe me
(bop bop bop bop)
That it can't happen here

Who could imagine that they would freak out somewhere in kansas...
Kansas kansas tototototodo
Kansas kansas tototototodo
Kansas kansas
Who could imagine that they would freak out in minnesota...
Mimimimimimimi minnesota, minnesota, minnesota
Who could imagine...

Who could imagine
That they would freak out in washington, d.c.
D.c. d.c. d.c. d.c. d.c.
It can't happen here
Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba
It can't happen here
It can't happen here
Everybody's safe and it can't happen here
No freaks for us
It can't happen here
Everybody's clean and it can't happen here
No, no, it won't happen here
I'm telling you it can't
It won't happen here
(bop bop didi bop didi bop bop bop)
Plastic folks, you know
It won't happen here
You're safe, mama
You're safe, baby
You just cook a tv dinner
And you make it
(bop bop bop)
No no no no
Oh, we're gonna get a tv dinner and cook it up
Go get a tv dinner and cook it up
Cook it up
Oh, and it won't happen here
(no no no no no no no no no no no
Man you guys are really safe
Everything's cool).
Who could imagine
Who could imagine
That they would freak out in the suburbs
I remember (tu-tu)
I remember (tu-tu)
I remember (tu-tu)
They had a swimming pool
I remember (tu-tu)
I remember (tu-tu)
They had a swimming pool
I remember (tu-tu)
I remember (tu-tu)
They had a swimming pool.

And they thought it couldn't happen here
(duh duh duh duh duh)
They knew it couldn't happen here
They were so sure it couldn't happen here
But...

Suzie...
Yes yes yes--i've always felt that
Yes I agree man, it really makes it...yeah...
It's a real thing, man
And it really makes it
(makes it)

Suzie, you just got to town,
And we've been, we've been very interested
In your development,
Since you first took the shots.
Forget it!
Hmmmmmmmmm
(it can't happen here)
(can't happen here)
(can't happen here)

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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:07 PM
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24. Man I miss Zappa... eom
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:17 PM
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30. I take a class on Tuesday nights, and everyone there
(six people) was angry and discouraged about the way things are going. (And no, I didn't prompt them.)
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