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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:11 AM
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The glee of it all: Chuck Todd and Norah O'Donnell (MSNBC)
They can hardly contain themselves. I'll bet both of them have wet their underpants over this "victory" in Massachusetts. Big smiles, bright eyes...they are just thrilled with today's news of yesterday's crushing blow to the Democrats.

And they owe themselves credit for perhaps helping to shape this race, with their constant doom and gloom over a Democrat winning a seat held by another Democrat for over 40 years. Were they responsible in their reporting of the events leading up to this special election? Did they truly cover both candidates fairly?

I believe the M$M should report the news, not make the news. But apparently, it's OK today to help form public opinion by expressing commentary as fact.

I blame the Democrats for this, too. After M$M's cover up of the Bush Administration's crimes for 8 years, it's obvious the corporate-owned media conglomerates serve not the public, but their corporate masters. This is a disservice to the American people, who think they have a right to depend on what they're told is news truly is news, and not exploiting a corporate agenda.

We need something like the Fairness Doctrine that labels commentary as such. This would force Faux News to show the "COMMENTARY" notation on the screen most of the time. People would be shocked to learn how much of what they're told is not really news, but commentary to shape public opinion.

As long as we have weak Democrats who also bow to their corporate masters, we'll have more of the same. There will be no real change because those who are really in charge like things the way they are.

The one thing that's truly lacking in this country is accountability. For the words that are spoken, and for the actions taken that are not in the best interests of the public at large.

If the people really want things to change, they're going to have to force that change on the elected representatives who no longer serve the voters. How that happens remains to be seen. There will be no real change without it, though.
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Sara Bradi Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:15 AM
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1. I have find both of them to be very fair
we dems did f**k this one up ourselves, why blame MSM or Side Street Media ?

Chuck is a numbers whiz and Nora is an engaging reporter and commentator.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:21 AM
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4. No, they are biased. Chuckie has this weird way of saying, "the American People feel, think,.."
He's a Beltway pundit tied to the White House. He has no clue how the American people are feeling or thinking. He uses the numbers on HCR to say that people don't want the change... when in fact, they want real change... they want a Medicare for All solution. Had the Dems actually worked for the People, and not the corporate overlords, they would have had the support from the American people and win elections for the next 40yrs. Its his analysis that is wrong. AND he's clearly in favor of keeping his bread and butter coming his way. The corporate media will protect the coporations. They are part of the problem.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:05 AM
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12. He uses that phrase (or something close) every 3 sentences
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:43 AM
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15. Yep, exactly.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:26 AM
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5. I haven't watched the MSM for years. If I want mostly reporting of news with less B.S. I
watch Bloomberg, or read

The MSM is just "entertainment tonight"

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:31 AM
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7. Chuck Todd acts like an over-grown middle schooler trying to impress the "cool" kids.
He sucks at everything but licking his corporate masters' asses. There is nothing fair about him.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:38 AM
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8. I find Chuck Todd to be very biased.
I turn him off anymore. His stories and predictions have a bias toward republicans. He seemed to have a love affair going with Bushco.
Chuck is hardly the only one. FUX is of course the media arm of the republican party and it seems that everyone follws the FUX lead. We get an occasional snausage like Olbermann, but that is always countered with a Morning Joe.

Not to absolve the democratic party for not acting like democrats.

I think people like Todd are much more interested in party parity than anything else. With parity they tink more eyeballs will be turned in to watch their incredibly salient thoughts.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:39 AM
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9. I find Chuck Todd to be very biased.
I turn him off anymore. His stories and predictions have a bias toward republicans. He seemed to have a love affair going with Bushco.
Chuck is hardly the only one. FUX is of course the media arm of the republican party and it seems that everyone follws the FUX lead. We get an occasional snausage like Olbermann, but that is always countered with a Morning Joe.

Not to absolve the democratic party for not acting like democrats.

I think people like Todd are much more interested in party parity than anything else. With parity they tink more eyeballs will be turned in to watch their incredibly salient thoughts.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:04 AM
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11. You haven't been paying attention.
Chuck Todd has a long history of biased "reporting."

Norah O'Donnell also reports with different inflections in her voice that communicate disapproval. She allows Republicans to flat out lie without calling them on it, stating "facts" that have been debunked repeatedly.

Fair is not a proper word to define what they do.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:22 AM
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14. Things that make you say, "Hmmmmm......"
:wtf:
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:19 AM
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2. I honestly don't know how I feel about this.
I do know I have seen the "interview" where NO basically sneered at Cindy Sheehan throughout the entire thing and I find Chuckles completely loathsome. But I really have learned to not pay too much attention to MSM.

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:20 AM
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3. So the voters are angry
This is so sickening. If they were so damn angry about the state of the economy, and the jobs being lost, where were they during the eight years that bush and his cronies, most of those same republicans still in congress were doing this.

You are correct is saying the MSM doesn't report the news. No where do you see them reporting that these continual loses are the fault of the policy of the bush administration. That the mess on Wall Street is also. I blame the Obama administration for not setting up a committee to look into the actions of the previous administration that caused this mess.

You see that the public is starting to blame Obama and the Democrats, altho they know damn well it isn't their fault. Obama has to tighten up on Wall Street. He has to let the public know that he is trying to weed out the crooks. I think they democrats should have left the anti=trust provision in the Health Care Bill.

And it is a bunch of crap to rant and rave about the 60 vote thing. Remember that Liberman only went with the Democrats ONCE to help with that. He has been the thorn in the side of the Democrats all along. It is time, since they can't justify keeping him to kick him out as chairman of the committee he is on. He is not needed let him go to the republicans, he wants to any way. He is smooching along with the Democrats to work both sides of the aisle.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:29 AM
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6. and that is the BIG mistake with the administration and the Democrats. When they took office
instead of laying blame where belonged, they went out of their way to avoid that, because compromise was the most important thing

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:41 AM
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I'll edit in the link in a minute.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:20 AM
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13. Here's the link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28544273/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/


It calls for a name, phone#, e-addy. If you don't send it, I will, crediting you.
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