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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:45 AM Original message |
An Open Letter to President Obama from Michael Moore |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. Michael Moore under the bus by the corporocrats in 3--2---1 n/t |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. He has been under that bus and resurrected many a time here. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. His bus status changes from one moment to the next. n/t |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
78. Schrodinger's Bus Wheels? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. k&r |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. the k and the r |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. K and R |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. Hope |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. +1 ...K&R |
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optimator (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. Also, show the left some respect by not trying to SELL it |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. +1 'Don't attempt to sell it to us' |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
103. I expect President Obama to frame it |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. If you're dead set on... |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
49. I'll just leave this here. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
62. I agree, Snake. But it's the collateral damage here at home that I'm worried about. |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #62 |
107. I worry about that too, but... |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. "There never was a good war, or a bad peace"...Benjamin Franklin |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. +1 |
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Altoid_Cyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. Brief history of Afghanistan by Adam Ritscher. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Glad you posted that. |
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Altoid_Cyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. The US does have a tendency towards tunnel vision when it comes to the rest of the world. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
63. Second dixiegrrrl's comments. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
10. Obama promised during the campaign that he would increase the number of troops in Afghanistan |
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Firstzar (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. "War of Necessity" |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. does that mean you HAVE to agree with the stance? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. No, but it is disingenuous to suggest that Obama supporters would become |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The party is a coalition |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. The lack of a viable "no war choice" shows you which part of the coalition is stronger |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The 25% that has no problem voting GOP |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Obama got over 50% of the delegates |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Yes, many moneyed "blue dogs" are invested in the War Machine's private corporations |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. If most Democrats believed that conspiracy theory BS, Obama never would have won the nomination |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Withdrawing is the ONLY choice. Congress has NOT declared war. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
60. Does It Matter If Things Have Changed Since The Campaign?? More Than Ever |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
69. exactly. n/t |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. The "disillusioned cycnics" thoght it wrong then and thus have not chnaged. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. So, they must have been quite cynical to vote for a candidate who did not share their views |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I think the expression was in 2008 |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Obama didn't become the nominee by accident |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. He sure did while hammering his only viable opponents |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. He stated that the war in Iraq was a mistake and that the war in Afghanistan, although poorly waged, |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. I was among his supporters |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. What specifically am I rewriting about history? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. He was remarkably non specific. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:41 AM Response to Reply #58 |
101. Freddie, Obama won on hope, youth, diplomacy and the economy, stupid |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. And Now It Will Be "His War!" And The Election Is Over! None Of Us Dared |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
51. He's already increased the troops, putting an additional 24 000 of them there. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Apperently he does not believe that the notion of that war is flawed |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
115. So? "Yes, We Can" or "I Got This"? Can't stand the folks who |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. I am happy to say that I did not donate a penny to him. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
73. You are still an asshole! |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
74. Obama also said he was against DUMB wars. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
81. I'm sure that's what got him elected... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. Despite rhetoric, any & all US presidents are hired/installed to be the next "war president." |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. President Kill has no interest in hippie talk. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
21. So who should we believe: Michael Moore or Pres. Obama? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. That is a little over-simplistic, aye. The FACT is that al Qaeda is no longer in Afghanistan. |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Well, let's see... |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. LMFAO! |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Michael Moore |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Yes, but he's certainly not as dreamy as you know who! n/t |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Let them eat Job Summits! |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. Could someone tinker with QC's picture? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
80. done |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:31 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Much obliged, wuushew |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
113. I would dearly love to see that as an OP |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #80 |
118. wow - quite excellent. perfectly captures the moment. |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
76. How about believing history |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. Was just reading an astonishing comment about a report on the BBC . . . |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
28. This will be the final nail of hubris |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
30. Repubs are Counting On Obama Increasing Troops To Ensure Can't Lose Status For Them... |
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Kid Dynamite (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Do you mean his hard decisions |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
112. Its no secret Bush/Cheney destroyed everything and now Repubs are blaming Obama for it... |
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babydollhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
31. kick |
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AVID (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. K&R |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
38. Obama can do what he wants. He made history. All the magazines say so. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
39. K&R for MM. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
40. Kick! |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
41. It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. It ain't just the generals we hate, Michael. |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
47. final nail |
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Krashkopf (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
53. # 90 rec . . . |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
64. Excellent! |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
65. War - The Stimulus Package for the Rest of Us |
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thegoodfight (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #65 |
89. Cannot stand the word caucasian |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #89 |
117. You know you are right - my fingers were flying, its quite awkward -nt |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
91. +1 |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
66. President Obama, if you're hellbent on listening to the generals, here are two you should |
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woodcarver (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Allegedly, Eisenhower's original speech script was written... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. As I hear it ... it was the MIIC . . . including "Intelligence Complex" . . . |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:03 AM Response to Reply #86 |
102. Connected to the CIA? Even if true, unsure what it means. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
110. If not "connected to" the CIA certainly influenced heavily by it. As is every President |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
67. K&R....n/t |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
68. K&R |
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mullard12ax7 (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. but EVIL lurks everywhere and we need to point big guns at herdsmen! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
77. Great letter-but Moore forgot to ask Obama to give that so called "peace prize" back. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Amazing that you can run two wars and get the "peace prize" . . .!!! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. The kicker is: 100,000 troops to chase 100 al Qaeda members in Afghanistan & 300 in Pakistan |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:53 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Plus US/CIA created Taliban/Al Qaeda . .. financed it . . . used it to bait |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
79. Democratic Kick. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
82. Thanks for posting this... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
83. Comments from . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #83 |
99. And just a PS on the second comment . . . "What did we do?" . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
84. Nice try, Michael -- |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
90. Could someone please post one of those lists of all the great things Obama has done because I'm |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
92. It may be a mistake to think common sense or the rule of law have anything to do with this. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
93. Come on people! It's a CHESS MOVE! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #93 |
108. Vulcan chess, no less! n/t |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
95. Well said! I totally agree with you. |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
96. I'm confused... |
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bring_em_home_bush (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
114. this post is pure distilled awesomeness |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Thank you, that made my day! eom |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
97. Silly Michael |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 03:12 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. It seems to be the only campaign promise |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #100 |
109. Untrue |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
104. I've thought about the Afghanistan |
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yellowwood (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
105. I Agree |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
106. Oy you too Mike? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
111. So the generals are always for the war? |
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