Andre Shepherd - deserter or Hero

[malaise]

I say hero - he's entitled to German political asylum

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2009/04/090417_outlook_andreshepherd.shtml



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[vadawg]

1. deserter without a doubt, maybe a hero to some.

[Morning Dew]

2. He enlisted in 2004 . . . deserter seems to be the answer.

[UndertheOcean]

3. Hero , there is no such thing as a deserter in an illegal war for oil n/t

[malaise]

5. +1

I watched part of his discussion with people in Germany and I think he's a hero. He has real issues with what he was asked to do.

[madokie]

11. This old vet sees him as a Hero

Stand up to them and let them know how you feel about an illegal war, is my advice to all the men and women in our armed forces. I didn't and still carry the burden of not doing that when I could have while I had the knowledge that our war was illegal too.

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. [phone]

[hack89]

4. Deserter. nt

[stray cat]

6. Since when is not fulfilling commitments hero material? I can support him but not a hero

[UndertheOcean]

9. refusing to kill innocent Iraqis for oil is hero material.

[madokie]

15. In a big way

I'm anti war

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Our govt is who failed to keep its commitment

We owe our soldiers more than they are getting in this war.

[stray cat]

7. He can get asylum but heros are clearly a dime a dozen to you

[StarfarerBill]

8. Conscientious objector, and a hero in my book.

An individual's conscience should always come before military orders.

[Mudoria]

10. Deserter

[Fla_Democrat]

12. Deserter

Seems cut and dried to me. Now, some may debate the why, but the what is clear. :smoke:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. now that democrats are in power our attitude towards these wars have changed

now, he is a deserter. 4 years ago he would be standing on principle.

[madokie]

14. To me he's still standing tall

[Soylent Brice]

19. duh, it's all about who's team you're on, not whether you're against war.

:sarcasm:

it's amazing to see the tables turn, isn't it? this is bizarro world. we should be prosecuting war crimes, but instead we're debating whether someone with a conscience who disagreed with an illegal war is a hero or a deserter.

i say, it doesn't matter if he's a hero or a deserter. he did the right thing, and that is ALL THAT MATTERS.

i hope more people read your reply.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Hero

[kctim]

20. Deserter

and I hope he is brought to justice.

[mmarsh]

21. Deserter. If you join the Army you have to accept the fact that the military might send you to war

no matter what, regardless if you agree or not. Its not up to the soldier to decide whether a war is illegal. Thats the deal. He can quit the moment his enlistment is up but until then he is under orders. I have symapthy for him not wanting to go to Iraq, but no sympathy for what he did, he's a deserter.

[Bluenorthwest]

22. Man of conscience