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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:36 PM Original message |
Kucinich is free to say what he wants - to burn the bill in public but . . . |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. he failed us. pettiness is the last thing we need in our Reps. |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. His 'pettiness' is justified. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. just as justified as the Repuke opposition. a Nay is a Nay |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. zealot |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Hell. The Stupak rider alone is virtually enought cause to vote against it. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. Remember his "pettiness" against the Patriot Act and the Iraq war? |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. +1 |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. UNREC for another nast DK is the antichrist spam |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
102. not the antichrist just an irrelevent gadfly |
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adamuu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. Unreliable partner. n/t |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. Yep the 99% majority of Reps (Republicans) |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, he was considering Ron Paul as his running mate. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. You are knocking them out of the park today grant |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Why not give up this "Crusade" to try and paste a nasty frame on DK. It aint working. |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Rajah that ! |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Exactly, Sir: He Is Free To act As He Wishes, Others Are Free To Criticize Him for His Actions |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. The effect of his no vote was nil and I'm sure he was aware of that |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Will you say the same when Lieberman votes against the Senate version? |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. Except that |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Lame justification #1 |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. For clarification |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I see your point |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Lieberman isn't anything like Dennis Kucinich |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Lame justification #2 |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. he doesn't |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. It might be boring "bickering" to you |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. sez you |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
62. Lieberman is a traitor and Kucinich is not, don't you know? |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
92. Well actually it doesn't seem to be the same when it's about Lieberman. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #92 |
107. Agreed |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Conscience, Sir? Who Gives a Flipped Finger About His Delicate Conscience? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. my point is |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Every Notch Counts, Sir: That is My View. |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Really ?? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Atmospherics Count, Sir |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
96. I'll consider that as this thing moves forward |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. Clearly that's not true |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
103. consequential to it's eventual or final passage, Mr. Moran |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. So, sir, you don't believe in standing on principle? |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. The man stands only for himself. He's a politician who found his niche |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Standing On Them is Fine, Ma'am, Particularly If Accompanied by A Good Kick Or Two To Keep Them Down |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Nay, sir: Not only those two choices |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
89. No, Sir, He Cast His Vote With Boehner and Cantor And Army's 'Tea-Bag' Mob |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Your smoke and mirrors have blinded me. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Then My Work Here Is Done, Sir.... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. Of course |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I hardly consider that bill a victory. |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
58. About that bill ?? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
75. The bill is quite good |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Far from it! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. There's so much good about this bill |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. I asked for an example |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I think the tone of your "cite an example" question was rightly seen by me as aggressive |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. You mistook a serious query |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Kucinich believes his health insurance coverage is a giveaway to the insurance industry |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. That is a comple misrepresentation of his position. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. Right vote, wrong reason |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Wrong vote, right reason |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. If it is unconstitutional then so much the better |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. I hear you but I must object strongly |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. And if the legislature was a democratic institution then I would agree |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
77. Well said! |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
99. Ah, but women aren't important, right? Blacks are, |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. well not quite. IF his vote were the deciding factor, then YES. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Do the 38 other "blue dogs" get the same special consideration for standing on their "principals" |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. And what about the GOP then? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. That's what is boils down to |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
84. You are, I believe, wrong |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. 1). You have me confused with The Magistrate. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
106. Do some research |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I agree with you completely |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. A whole lot of crying over a single congressman from Ohio |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. You miss the point entirely |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. The bill is going no where |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. "We are about where Bill Clinton was in 1993." How utterly ridiculous. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Nope I have a firm foundation in reality |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Not if you think that Clinton got a bill out of the committees, much less passed by the House. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The House was waiting for the Senate to act |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Nonsense. n/t |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
85. Sounds like a call to arms |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. Abject stupidity on Kucinich's part. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
20. ooo... look at you marching in lock step |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. He speak whenever he wants and say whatever he wants |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Progressive. ?. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. In the world of deal makers and real legislation with real votes Kucinich |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Once the public option is removed |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. It's a bad bill |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. I love Dennis ~ always have ...but I agree with you grantcart |
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happy2bhere (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
23. Do you know if these calculations are correct? |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Cost savings will be a farce. |
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happy2bhere (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. but what about poor people? |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Any plan that costs those making $ 60 plus K per year. |
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happy2bhere (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. we can hope the rebellion will push them to single payer eventually |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Considering the cost of tuition for their kids, co pays, etc |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yes, |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
49. Ever the voice of reason ... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. It was pure |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
56. wow...he didn't vote to F_ _ _ us over...shame on him...NOT! big u(nrec) for you. eom |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
57. His whole career has been that way |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
60. K&R. And this isn't the first time he's done it. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. No, the guy actually voted against the Patriot Act and the Iraq war. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
63. Wrong, the people of his district elected him not a poll calculator |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
104. Your wrong on the logic and the facts |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. They don't have to point to anything, they can vote the way they want to vote |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
67. He is representing the wishes of his constituents, |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
82. the man was one of the few who stood up for us |
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PopSixSquish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
91. As a Democrat and a Progressive, I Would Not Do Anything Which Puts Me on the Same Side |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
98. Progressive issues? The House bill is anything BUT progressive |
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