Nazi Looted Art Found at future site of Bush Presidential Library

[ensho]

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/10/nazi-looted-art-found-at-future-site-of.html


Two valuable works of art looted by the Nazis during World War II have been discovered at Southern Methodist University (SMU), which is the future home of the George W. Bush Presidential Library.

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The former president's office declined to comment on the story.
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well, well, well

shall we find out how they got there?

[leeroysphitz]

1. Just how many skeletons can fit into one closet?

[rrneck]

8. How 'bout Geronimo's? nt

[redqueen]

16. At least his skull would fit, I'm sure. (nt)

[arthritisR_US]

26. my word you are quick! good one :-) n/t

[Kablooie]

46. If it's connected to Nazi's, a hell of a lot.

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[tekisui]

3. Inheritance from his Nazi grandfolks, I presume.

[struggle4progress]

22. Meadows museum has revised its provenances on webpages for the two paintings:

Bartolomé Esteban MURILLO  (1617/18–1682)
Saint Justa (Santa Justa), c. 1665
Oil on canvas (óleo sobre lienzo)
Algur H. Meadows Collection, 72.04
... Provenance
Possibly Marqués de Villamanrique, Seville (?); Rothschild
Family Collection, Paris (before 1941); Confiscated by the
Nazi ERR in Paris from Rothschild Collection, inventory nos. R
1170, R 1171 (1941); (Justa) ERR Buxheim (1945); (Rufina)
Munich Central Collecting Point under Allied Control
(1945-46); Likely restituted to Rothschild family (after
1946)*; [Art Market, Paris] (1967); H. Schickman Gallery, New
York (by 1972); Meadows Museum, gift of the Meadows
Foundation, Incorporated, 20 September 1972.
*We are indebted to Mr. Robert M. Edsel and Ms. Patricia A.
Teeter for providing the Rothschild and Nazi-era information.
...Previously Published Provenance
Marqués de Villamanrique, Seville (?); Conde de Altamira,
Seville and London; George Granville, Marquis of Stafford,
Stafford House, London; Dukes of Sutherland, Stafford House,
London, catalogue nos. 120 and 121; Cromarties, 4th Duke of
Sutherland (to February 1913 – the 4th Duke died 27 June
1913); Julius Böhler Gallery, Munich (from 1913 – pair split
up); (Justa) Ownership Unknown; (Rufina) Bernat [Bernart or
Bernard?} Back, Szeged, Hungary (by 1917); returned to Böhler
(by 1928) for sale (1929); Private Collection, France (as a
pair??, to 1967); [Art Market, Paris] (1967); [H. Schickman
Gallery, New York ({}{}to 1972)]; Acquired by the Museum, 20
September 1972, gift of the Meadows Foundation, Incorporated
...
http://smu.edu/meadows/museum/collections_Murillo_Justa.htm

Bartolomé Esteban MURILLO (1617/18–1682)
Saint Rufina (Santa Rufina), c. 1665
Oil on canvas (óleo sobre lienzo)
Algur H. Meadows Collection, 72.05
... Provenance
Possibly Marqués de Villamanrique, Seville (?); Rothschild
Family Collection, Paris (before 1941); Confiscated by the
Nazi ERR in Paris from Rothschild Collection, inventory nos. R
1170, R 1171 (1941); (Justa) ERR Buxheim (1945); (Rufina)
Munich Central Collecting Point under Allied Control
(1945-46); Likely restituted to Rothschild family (after
1946)*; [Art Market, Paris] (1967); H. Schickman Gallery, New
York (by 1972); Meadows Museum, gift of the Meadows
Foundation, Incorporated, 20 September 1972.
*We are indebted to Mr. Robert M. Edsel and Ms. Patricia A.
Teeter for providing the Rothschild and Nazi-era information.
Previously Published Provenance
Marqués de Villamanrique, Seville (?); Conde de Altamira,
Seville and London; George Granville, Marquis of Stafford,
Stafford House, London; Dukes of Sutherland, Stafford House,
London, catalogue nos. 120 and 121; Cromarties, 4th Duke of
Sutherland (to February 1913 – the 4th Duke died 27 June
1913); Julius Böhler Gallery, Munich (from 1913 – pair split
up); (Justa) Ownership Unknown; (Rufina) Bernat [Bernart or
Bernard?} Back, Szeged, Hungary (by 1917); returned to Böhler
(by 1928) for sale (1929); Private Collection, France (as a
pair??, to 1967); [Art Market, Paris] (1967); [H. Schickman
Gallery, New York ({}{}to 1972)]; Acquired by the Museum, 20
September 1972, gift of the Meadows Foundation, Incorporated
...
http://smu.edu/meadows/museum/collections_Murillo_Rufina.htm

[Octafish]

33. Böhler and a 'Private Collecton in France'

The NAZIs took up quite a collection in France. And Poland and Ukraine and a whole lot more places, too.

[abluelady]

4. I'm Sure the Liberal Medial Will Hone Right Into This. eom

[unpossibles]

5. I'm sure there's a perfectly cromulent explanation

The artworks were probably part of an exhibit on the President's family history.....

[Arugula Latte]

6. Maybe Nazi sympathizer/enabler Prescott Bush got a little payoff from his goosestepping pals.

[lpbk2713]

9. My first thought.

There has to be a connection there somewhere.

[MidwestRick]

7. Other than the future site

for the library...what other tie to GWB is there to this find? Was this being stored there for him?

[Triana]

10. Oh. What a "surprise". HA! n/t

[gateley]

11. Gifts to Prescott from Adolf? nt

[malaise]

14. Very possible

:evilgrin:

[era veteran]

41. Gifts for chemicals

Prescott Bush sold chemicals to the IG Farben company. The most well known Farben product; Cyclon B

[valerief]

12. Past down to generations of looters. nt

[DrDan]

13. it was found at the University - I did not see anything about any ties to the bush family

fun to joke about - but no links have been identified as I read that short article.

[Barack_America]

20. There probably aren't.

I updated my post (#17) to reflect the real background of the story.

[intheflow]

43. You're right.

No ties to the Bush family--except karmically.

[groovedaddy]

15. Coincidence? I think not. n.t

[Barack_America]

17. Upon further checking, they appear to have been donated by Algur Hurtle Meadows.

http://smu.edu/meadows/museum/

These are the paintings in question:

[jtrockville]

18. How long have these works been stashed at SMU?

[struggle4progress]

19. Here's the Monuments Men Foundation webpage on the paintings:

http://www.monumentsmenfoundation.org/murillo/pressrelease.php

[ensho]

21. thank you for this info

nt

[YOY]

23. There's a perfectly logical explanation for this...no need to fly out of control.

Clearly a Nazi spyplane was scouting the USA while holding a few priceless works of arts that the Nazi pilot stole from some Jews. Of course such a spying mission would be on the most patriotic family of them all: the Bushes and very dangerious so he needed the portraits for inspiration...

He was low on feul why scouting Prescott's estate so he had to bail them out, otherwise he never would have made it back to his rendesviouz point (Mexico! AHA!!!) A calm breeze of Texas air made sure they harmlessly fluttered to the earth and those works of art were then found by Prescott and he did his patriotic best to make sure they would never fall into Nazi hands again!!!

...Later the Nazi pilot died of "teh librul sifilus" because as we all know from Ann Coulter's teachings: The Nazi's were Horribly Liberal!!!

There you go. Perfectly logical explanation.

Is a sarcasm smiley needeed?

[damntexdem]

24. Oh no -- does this mean that the Dubya Library is going to have a time machine in the future?

Trying to hide their looted Nazi art in their past, our present?

[Vidar]

25. Prescott would be so proud.

[AzDar]

27. Self-edited.

The Bush Family Still Sucks .:patriot:

[Octafish]

28. Who'd ever think a Texas oil tycoon would end up with looted NAZI art?

Ever hear of Secret Service Agent Henry J. Rybka?



Not that paranoia isn't prudent.

[laststeamtrain]

29. All senior members of the Bush/Iraq occupation team should be searched for...

Mesopotamian antiquities. Bremer, Rumsfeld, etc. They look like looters.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. How reliable is this site?

If true... we are not talking of proof of that connection they have denied for decades... but also of a crime. Those pieces of art, have to be sent back.

[fascisthunter]

31. his Grand Daddy worked with the Nazis

anyone surprised? Not me...

[alfredo]

48. self deleted

[Dreamer Tatum]

32. Never underestimate the power of a * mention to make people stupid here nt

[Octafish]

34. Pointing out Bush family connections to the NAZIs is stupid? It's NEWS to most Americans.

Something else from history that would be news, if only Corporate McPravda allowed, to most Americans:

A fact curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission

[Dreamer Tatum]

36. Thanks for proving my point.

Yeah, see, it's good for a chuckle and all, but the story is that art stolen by Nazis is at the same university where the * library will be.

The Bushes and the Nazis were connected? Wow, tell something else that hasn't been pointed out here EVERY DAY SINCE 2001.

I guess I'm not defending SMU or the * family so much as I hate tedious humor. But that's just me.

[Octafish]

37. There's nothing funny about the Bush-NAZI connection.

It's why the nation is in the state it is in.

For those who are new to the subject, a short primer:

Know your BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

Sorry if its metion brings tediousness to your busy day.

[Barack_America]

42. The Bush family had nothing to do with these paintings.

It's fine to discuss the ties between the Bush family and Nazis that exist, but it's not cool to make up associations where there are none.

[troubledamerican]

45. I personally beware those who downplay Nazi reminders, especially Bush Family ones.

I generally get the impression that these people have an agenda for the other side. Nothing serves the Bush Family more than downplaying their Nazi connections.

Meanwhile, when Wingnuts apoplectically squeal "Obama is a fascist", DUers never have the wherewithal to demand their outrage against Bush Family Nazi financing, because DUers don't hear enough about the Nazi connection. What else would explain why DUers don't seem to remember it when it matters?

[Snazzy]

47. 5 seconds of google reveals: Bush admin siding with Nazi art theft

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2004/02/25/Court-hears-Nazi-art-theft-case/UPI-58191077741855/

Court hears Nazi art-theft case
Published: Feb. 25, 2004 at 3:44 PM

...

New York City seized two Egon Schiele paintings, loaned by Austria to the Museum of Modern Art, on the grounds that they had been stolen by the Nazis.

...

Cooper was hired to represent Austria in the case.

"The issue ... is whether our courts ... will pass judgment on sovereign states acting within their own borders," Cooper said. If the courts take that action in regard to conduct before 1952, it would enormously complicate U.S. relations with other sovereign nations.

Cooper was supported by the Bush administration. Deputy Solicitor General Thomas Hungar told the justices, "The position of the United States has long been that sovereign immunity bars pre-1976 claims by one government on another ... If this law were to be applied retroactively it could open us up to foreign claims in foreign courts."

Representing the elderly Maria Altman, who was in the courtroom, Los Angeles attorney Randol Schoenberg told the justices, "Twenty-five years ago, Congress decided (in FSIA) that cases such as these should be allowed to go forward ... As to property taken from Jewish families (during the war), this country recognizes no sovereign immunity at all."

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No big surprise there to anyone paying attention. Of course Bush sided with Austria and nazi art theft....

5 minutes of google? Bet I could find BFEE doing, not just approving of, the art theft. That's the take-home lesson of the BFEE, never ever give them the benefit of the doubt on anything nefarious, you will be wrong.

(Ha, 1972 the year SMU acquires paintings in NY, home of the UN, Bush Sr. is Ambassador to the UN. Kurt Waldheimm, (of, uh, AUSTRIA) Sec. Gen. Lol, see it's easy).

[Canuckistanian]

35. They found the Prescott Bush Collection!

Shrub will probably want it for his "Liberry".

[Liberal In Texas]

38. In all fairness the paintings in the Meadows Museum have nothing to do with *Bush

or his "lieberry". But I suppose it's good enough for a few jokes.

:evilgrin:

[SoCalDem]

39. There is looted art all over the world.

There's a book out called "Monument Men", about the people who searched out and saved art that the Nazis had looted or hidden, and one of the authors said that the next decade will be spectacular, as the last of the people from that era pass on, and their relatives start finding stuff that Grandma had, is not what they thought it was..

[Cleita]

40. No mystery as to how they got there. All kinds of stuff was looted from

Germany after the war especially those with Nazi insignias and such. Some kid in my German class in college brought in a huge Swastika banner that his father had brought back from the war and hung it on the wall. It took the whole wall in the front of the class where the black board was. I'm sure a lot of the more valuable loot like art work found it's way into museums and universities for preservation. God knows what's stored away in Nazi memorabilia in attics and garages across America.

[proud patriot]

44. bushco sicko's

despicable