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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:51 PM
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It does not bother me the moon did not explode, crack, implode, shift in orbit
become a beacon for an alien invasion army, puke it's secrets, become a new spot for advertising some crap, or do anything other than continue to be a big dead rock.



The moon, dead for billions of years, dead until the end of time.


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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:53 PM
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1. thanks for my new screen saver.
I think it is beautiful.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:54 PM
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2. When the Moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie...................
:hug:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:56 PM
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3. More gorgeous stuff from that artist here...
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:57 PM
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4. thanks for the link
:hi:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:01 PM
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7. Beautiful, too bad the year is over, the calendar is gorgeous.
:hi:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:53 PM
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37. Ooooooooh, thanks for the link. nt
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:01 PM
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6. Here's a higher resolution for your screen savers:
1023 x 768:



1280 x 1024:



1596 x 1144:




:P

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:11 PM
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11. Just replaced my Hennessey Dodge Challenger with that, thanks!
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:15 PM
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13. oh yeah! thanks!
:D :hug: :hi:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:00 PM
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5. I'm sad that so many people were so ignorant -- and frightened
It got so bad, even *I* snarked out.

If nothing else, it should tell us that there is still a crying need for effective education as a social value.

People need not learn this stuff in school. The heart of it is that, when confronted with something new, too many people still rush to believe (usually modern) superstitions instead of delving into it to understand what is really happening.

We are making progress ... s-l-o-w-l-y ...

--d!
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:05 PM
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10. A bird crashed into my window and died today
I think it was probably because the damage to the moon disrupted the navigational abilities of birds, whales, and other creatures. It will be sad when the butterflies are extinct...

;)
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:13 PM
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12. I had said elsewhere, with the MILLIONS of bombs dropped on the earth
how could a tiny (relatively) projectile do anything other than burrow itself into the Moon and disappear.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:00 PM
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27. So that makes blowing the shit out of the Earth OK?
I think some of these "Scientists" should experiment with strapping TNT to each others heads and lighting the fuse just to see if there's anything inside their skulls....:rofl: :rofl: They start with a relatively small projectile, and next it's a place for nuclear testing... haven't we learned anything from the native cultures who revered nature? Screwing with nature is like cutting a branch off a tree while sitting on the outside, 100 feet up...
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:52 PM
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36. You mean the native cultures of the Moon? Or the ones which slashed and burned on Earth?
Slashed and burned on Hawaii. Crashed and burned on Easter Island. Chowed down on each other in some places, threw each other in the pit in others. Our dear native cultures like the Vikings, the Picts, and other Celts? How about the native cultures of Central Asia and Africa, charming folks all.

Exactly which native culture did you think we should emulate? Oh yeah, the ones in movies.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:14 AM
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43. If one were truly committed to living like "the native cultures who revered nature"
one would never have any idea this had happened, in the first place.

Without finding out about this via TV, radio, the internet, or a newspaper (delivered, doubtlessly, via automobile, van or truck-- carrying stories communicated over electronic wire) you would most likely have absolutely zero clue that this had taken place.

Without a high-powered telescope, you'd never be able to see the impact on the moon, or any difference in the appearance of the moon.

Step outside of your yurt, look up at the moon with your naked eyes, you'll never know the difference.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:41 AM
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54. Missed my point...
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 12:41 AM by stuball111
Where will it end? Stay in yer own yurt...
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:43 AM
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56. Verily, it's a slippery slope from making smoke signals
to arguing that technology is evil over the internet.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:51 AM
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58. I did the math
The impact of the rocket stage was equal to about 3,500 pounds of TNT. That's about equal to 3 of the Air Force's 2000-pound bombs.

Now you want to talk about an impact almost destroying a moon, I give you Mimas, moon of Saturn





That crater is 80 miles across. The rim is 3 miles high, the crater floor is almost 6 miles deep, and the spike in the middle is about 4 miles above it.

THAT'S what a near-moon-shattering impact looks like.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:03 PM
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8. Looks like it bothered other people though.
They had a eulogy already made.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:04 PM
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9. The lulz from the ignorant and superstituous were epic, though.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:47 PM
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23. +1 nt
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:25 PM
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14. The moon rocks, forevah!!
Yeah! :headbang:
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:34 PM
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19. Not if some pea brain nukes it....
Humans have been known to fuck things up since the dawn of time....
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billh58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:13 PM
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39. Yet, here we
are -- the only species on earth (as far as we know) which understands the concept of "the dawn of time." If it wasn't for that talking snake, and that magic apple, we would all be running around naked, without watches, and never being late for anything.

Science is evil, discovery is the fruit of that evil, and the human race is doomed because of our unending (DNA encoded) thirst for forbidden knowledge.

Oh woe, oh woe -- whatever are we to do...?
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:28 AM
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49. Hmmm...
"If it wasn't for that talking snake, and that magic apple, we would all be running around naked, without watches, and never being late for anything."

Sounds like paradise.... but does that mean no McDonalds?
:rofl: :rofl:
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:29 PM
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15. I beg to differ....Far from it.. the moon has always been alive...
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 09:31 PM by stuball111
It is energy, and a force in nature, just because there is no biological activity there doesn't mean it's dead. It has a spirit that people can't see. It influences life on our planet. And to fuck around with it is playing with fire. Next the shit heads with the "Oh, there's lots of trees, they'll grow back" or "Hell, we'll just dump out industrial toxic waste in this here river, and it will take it away" will think of something to fuck up the moon! They are messing with something that doesn't belong to them. It's the same mentality that almost wiped out Indians here and natives in south America and other cultures around the world. Hell, next they'll be testing nukes up there, and it just MIGHT jar it off it's natural orbit enough to create the end of the world, or at the very least a lot of misery for a long time, and may be worse than any nuclear holocaust. So fucking what if there's water on the moon! Why do we need to know that, and what good will it do us here? Do they want to send a ship up there and load up some ice and sell it as "moon water" at a million bucks a pop? Sometimes I can't believe the stupidity of the human race. Calling the moon "dead" is like standing on the prairie looking west for the first time and thinking... "hey... nothing here, might as well dig it all up and plant crops and get rid of those trees, they're not doing anybody any good sitting there when we need lumber. " It's short sighted and dangerous.....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:31 PM
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16. "Sometimes I can't believe the stupidity of the human race."
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:33 PM
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17. I rest my case... LOL
Didn't they ever hear of fire retardant cotton? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:34 PM
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18. Indeed you do.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:35 PM
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20. What do you think of it?
Sending space junk up there an littering the moon?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:39 PM
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21. It reminds me of them things whats got them words in them.
Them pagey things whats always them egghead librals is shoving down our throats while I'm trying to watch the tv lookity box whats got the wrasslin in there.

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:45 PM
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22. Stop jacking with our arrogance, please
You are making us uncomfortable. After all, many of us here are the decendants of the people who cut down ancient pecan trees to harvest the nuts rather than waiting for the fruits to fall naturally. Why consider looking ahead now?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:49 PM
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24. Um... were you thinking that we didn't know what "trainwreck" meant....
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 09:49 PM by BlooInBloo
and you decided to help us with an example?
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:54 PM
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25. Not unless someone missed it...
Can't a feller rant once in a while? :shrug: Blowing the moon up happens to piss me off...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:56 PM
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26. Is it cloudy where you are, or something?
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:02 PM
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28. No, and yes it's still there, but for how long?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:03 PM
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30. December 21, 2012.
Then it falls out of the sky when all the helium escapes.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:12 PM
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33. I thought it was made of cheese?
Or with helium involved, it would be... Cheese Light?:hide: :hide:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:02 PM
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29. Uh, the moon didn't blow up, that's the whole point of this thread
I just looked out the window, it's still up there. The tides didn't change, the dogs will still bay when it becomes full, and one of the funniest movies of my time was about the moon.


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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:11 PM
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32. Yes, I got that...and my post was
that it is not a dead thing. I liked your post... I was just ranting....Sometimes people take shit out of context and a thread can unravel fast... The point I was trying to make was first a little piece of space junk, then what? We all know that the human race sometimes has little foresight. And BTW... where I'm at , it's clear as a bell.. and I can't see it! You sure it's still there?:hide: :hide:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:47 PM
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35. "it is not a dead thing"
Yeah, actually, by any definition of the word "dead", the moon meets it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:54 PM
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38. Well, not according to a "there are 12 angels dancing on this pinhead" definition.
:P
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:42 PM
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41. That's ridiculous...
Angels don't dance...they float
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:40 PM
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40. Depends on your belief system don't it
And we are all entitled to that...
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:16 AM
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44. No, it doesn't.
The moon is dead. It is not alive. There is no life there. There is no "ecosystem". It is dead. DEAD.

That does not 'depend on your belief system', it is as objective a fact as they come.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:20 AM
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46. Ok then.. according to the definition...
it would have had been alive at some time for it to die...and as far as beliefs go, you telling me what I can believe or not believe? I respect your point of view, so respect mine....just happen to disagree. And that's allowed.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:26 AM
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47. What definition is that?
Things can be dead without having ever been alive. Rocks are dead, they weren't previously alive.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:33 AM
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52. What about fossils...
I get your point dude, like I said, I just happen to have other concepts about it.

My point was simply this, affects our planet through gravitational pull and other forces. In that respect, it has energy that we can't see, except for tides and such. To fuck with it would seriously affect our life here on earth. Therefore, it is attached to our lives and us to it. In that respect it has life. That's all....
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:42 AM
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55. Perhaps, since you're making the EXACT same argument- and I'm sorry, but it's a silly one-
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 12:44 AM by Warren DeMontague
that certain other posters have already made; (help! Hall of mirrors!) i.e. the LCROSS probe "could affect the tides", "might cause effects we don't understand", "could impact life on Earth because all systems are balanced", etc. etc. ...okay, those arguments have already been thoroughly eviscerated in other threads.

I get that you 'have other concepts about it', but from a scientific standpoint, they're incorrect. Wholly out of left field. There is no basis -NONE- for suggesting that the LCROSS probe will affect the tides, the orbit of the moon, life on Earth, any of it. Even saying "we don't know what could happen" (cue ominous background music) is incorrect. We had and have a very good idea of the force of impact of this probe and what the result would be. No, that does not mean "then there's no reason to do it", either. The purpose of the scientific experiment- and it's good science, if you're interested in actually learning about it- is to find out the chemical composition, specifically the presence of ice at the lunar poles.

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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:13 PM
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34. But what I can't figure out is...
How do they get the power up there to light the sucker up?
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:04 PM
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31. YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! OH, DAMN YOU! GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
Oops.

Wrong celestial body.

Never mind.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:47 PM
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42. WTF!?!
"Just because there is no biological activity there doesn't mean it's dead."

OMG, the stupid, IT BURNS!!! :banghead: crazy: :wtf: :wow:
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:16 AM
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45. That's what I said..
And got knocked down for it...I guess some people just can't think outside the box
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:27 AM
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48. You mean, like Buckminster Fuller?
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:30 AM
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50. Some of us don't believe in your sky faeries
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 12:35 AM by Confusious
and don't really want to be held hostage by them, any more then we want to be held hostage by the fundy churches.

Oh, and another thing, why bother with nukes on the moon when a kinetic energy missile made of raw iron would do so much more damage up there.

"It's the same mentality that almost wiped out Indians here and natives in south America and other cultures around the world"

It's your mentality: "I know better then you do, even though I know nothing about what I'm talking about."

"Why do we need to know that, and what good will it do us here?"

If you took a few science classes, you might be able to figure it out. But you already have everything figured out.

i.e. "It is energy, and a force in nature, just because there is no biological activity there doesn't mean it's dead. It has a spirit that people can't see."

"prairie looking west for the first time and thinking... "hey... nothing here, might as well dig it all up and plant crops and get rid of those trees"

There are no trees, there never were any trees, that's why it's called..... a prairie.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:38 AM
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53. OK...
But who the fuck was asking you to believe in "sky faeries" and as far as "fundy churches" my point was nowhere near that topic! If you don't like my opinion, feel free to disregard my posts. I'm tired of being jumped on by assholes who THINK they know everything...Blow me..... Ign'd
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:45 AM
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57. You were

and of course, I don't know everything. But I don't pretend like I do, like you. Don't you think scientists, who can send an object from earth to Jupiter or Saturn *MIGHT* know a little more then you about what to expect from something impacting the moon?

"I'm tired of being jumped on by assholes who THINK they know everything...Blow me..... Ign'd"

Great non-asshole reply.

Can't handle a challenge to your worldview, or sky faeries, use ignore. It'll keep U safe from nasty reality.


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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:33 AM
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51. I dunno, I heard the moon say it itched a little.
Itchy moon rash.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:59 AM
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59. EEEEKKK moon rash, oh yukkies get the A&D ointment
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