Nobel Prize, too politicized ?

[truhavoc]

I also wanted to comment about the allegations by the conservatives that the Nobel Prize has become a politicized award. Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican that won the award while he was in office, was it a liberal award then? He negotiated the end of the Russo-Japanese war, which at the time was a great feat of international leadership and was the beginning of the US exerting its growing global influence. We'll give the Republicans a break that the treaty eventually led to the Bolshevik Revolution, but that is besides the point. The overall point that needs to be realized is that conservatives do not stand for peaceful achievements. It seems fairly obvious that at least a part of the award being given to the President was due to the committee wanting it to serve as a repudiation of the Bush administration. Let that sink in for a minute, the Bush Administration was such a threat to world peace that the election of Obama by the American people signified such a change that it was the most important movement towards peace of 2008. Conservatives can complain about the award being politicized, but until they actually embrace the tenets of peace they will always be on the sidelines complaining that only Democrats win the Nobel Prize.

This might be a little too simplistic but the whole debate by the conservative side seems to be akin to a bunch of basketball players complaining that only football players win the Heisman Trophy...

[SemiCharmedQuark]

1. Gibbs pointed this out to Reid and shut him up pretty quickly.

Reid was a total asshole about it. Gibbs should have pointed out Kissinger.

Reid then mumbled something angrily about the Nobel committee pushing "Liberal" values.

[truhavoc]

2. Ha, I didn't see that

Maybe I can find it on Youtube, sucks working all day and missing they juicy stuff! ;)

[SemiCharmedQuark]

3. Video! Reid demands to know why Ronald Reagan didn't get the Nobel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVVOZB4kuGg&feature=player_embedded

[truhavoc]

8. I love the whole "But...but... Ronald Reagan!!" part! lol n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

9. Another night of tears for Chip Reid.

:D

[murielm99]

4. Reid? What Reid?

What did I miss? Please enlighten me.

[Parker CA]

5. Chip Reid. nt.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

6. Chip Reid.

Sorry :blush:

I posted the video. He was a real piece of work today.

I don't know what to make of this Nobel Prize thing. But I have no idea what Chip Reid thought he was accomplishing today. I posted the video up thread.

He starts asking Gibbs if Obama thought about rejecting the prize and then demands to know why Obama should get a prize when Ronald Reagan didn't. Gibbs tells him he needs to ask the Nobel Committee that.

[murielm99]

11. That Reid. Thank you.

He made a fool of himself. CBS should reprimand him. Of course they won't.

This should be getting wider exposure. Let the world see that Reid has his head up his ass.

[gratuitous]

12. Gibbs is a better man than I am

I would have said, "It's the Nobel Prize for Peace, not a participant ribbon for your grade school funlympics."

[Bucky]

7. History lesson

the Treaty of Bridgeport (or New Haven, or wherever the heck they met) did NOT lead to the Russian Revolution. Decades of mismanagement piled on top of centuries of oppression led to the Russian Revolution. World War 1 and German espionage played pretty important roles in there, too. Roosevelt was not without his sins in this world, but he did nothing to harm Russia when he ended its ill advised war of 1904. If anything, ending the war so quickly probably added a few years to the Czar's life.


I don't think your take on the significance of the Nobel Prize is "too simplistic," however. It's actually the most convincing argument in favor of Obama's laurels I've seen.

[truhavoc]

10. I agree

Sorry it was probably the Roosevelt piece of the comment that was too simplistic. You're right about the decades of mismanagement, but I truly think that the Treaty of Portsmouth allowed the opportunity for the revolution to take place. The Czar (Nicolas I, I think?) lost even more credibility and it might have been the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.

Thank you for your praise on the other part too!