Freeper Cartoonists - they just CANNOT bring the "funny", can they?

[HughBeaumont]

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Fine, Lisa, let's just keep the awesome "system" we have, because NONE of what's going on in your dumbass lie-filled labyrinth is happening NOW (Like the word "taxes" can't be replaced with "exorbitant payments").

Let's keep that "wealthcare" in place so we can happily file bankruptcy, beg from strangers (like your hero Eric Cantor wants us to) and die if we commit the crime of getting sick, because it's all OUR fault. But the people are just SOOOOOOO overtaxed with their top 35% rate (the lowest it's been in 75 years). Won't someone think of our poor insurers??

"Personal Responsibility" . . . think of the "betters" . . . "Strengthen the strong, and the weak shall follow" . . . "welfare queens" . . . and all that. :eyes:

Idiot.

And of course, this is in the Plain Dealer's "editorial" section.

[orpupilofnature57]

1. Robin Williams doesn't have an Agenda.

[geckosfeet]

2. The idea isn't to pay less. It is to provide health care. Only a fool would expect

providing decent health care for every American, young and old, cradle to grave would 'cost less'.

The money is a distraction but some people (republicans and conservatives?) are so fixated on it that they are blinded.

[HughBeaumont]

3. I'd be happy with "pay the same, never be denied or thrown into bankruptcy".

That's kind of what the whole "Health Care is a Human RIGHT" thing is all about, after all. It shouldn't be about "Health Care is a Rich People's Right".

[FormerDittoHead]

4. No. I expect it to cost less. I think lowering costs s/b the 'twin' goal here... RANT.

First off, the OP. It's not funny because, SIMPLY, the current system is even more complicated than that chart. ANY system POSSIBLE is going to be 'cartoon complicated' so this doesn't get us to where we want to go to. Yes, the Republicans don't know how to be funny. It's weird how UNfunny they are....

But *NO*. I do NOT support any damned bill that just puts more people onto the deck of the Titanic.

PER CAPITA, we pay almost TWICE AS MUCH as every other country that has BETTER health metrics.


So the problem is two fold - distribution and WHY things are expensive.

First, everyone should be getting health care when their sick. The 'argument' that there are those who don't 'deserve' to be treated WHEN THEY'RE SICK is PERVERTED. The suggestion that people see doctors 'for fun' is again, PERVERTED.

If we let people have doctor's visits, for example, then they can avoid developing problems which will end up costing more in the long run. So there are savings there.

Then there's the 27% higher costs that private health insurers charge above what gov't programs have. That's savings.

Then there would be a return to some common sense taxation of those who are profiting the most from our economy and its services.

Then there would be the added input of those who are 'skating' in the system (*not* those unable to pay) and they should pay in SOMETHING REASONABLE toward the coverage which they HAVE if they were to, say, get cancer and need $200k of treatment, but instead go bankrupt and leave everyone else paying the bill.

Then there's the way that doctors and hospitals charge for their services. I'm along with many others not knowing a lot here, but every conversation I have with people in the medical business know ways that, from a treatment angle, things could be DONE less expensively.

If we are to REFORM this system, HELL YES, I *EXPECT* THE COST TO GO DOWN, AND I WANT THAT IN THE SYSTEM.

(wow, I'm going on, ain't I? Sorry)

What I DON'T want is a mandate w/o a public option. No-fault auto insurance was supposed to bring the costs down, credit card reform (2006?) was supposed to bring down those charges. But they had no DIRECT MECHANISM to do that.

We can NOT ASSUME that with more mandated income, insurance companies will "naturally" lower their prices. BULLSHIT.

Costs CAN come down.

I do NOT SUPPORT *ANY* SOLUTION which increases OUR (98+% of people) costs.

[geckosfeet]

5. We could increase overall cost, and decrease per capita cost if every American had healthcare.

I would pay more in taxes if I knew every American had decent health care.

[HughBeaumont]

6. Readjust the payroll and SS taxes.

How many billions are being left on the table with these two taxes alone, where the wealthy get off easy as far as cost of living burden goes?

We can also drastically slash the Pentasewer's bloated share of the tax dollar. Talk about a garbage pail - two occupations that are costing more than they're giving back, billions go missing and no one cares . .. that chart above could also represent military spending per country, yet the US share would be four times as long as that present line.