Could somebody keep us posted what's going on with the vote in Committee? It's

[gateley]

not on either of my C-Span channels, and I'm having a hell of a time getting it online (where it's on C-Span 3)

Thank!!

[Mass]

1. People are too busy with Polanski apparently.

It should be in a few minute.

[gateley]

2. It was interesting this morning, and what little I heard (Kerry) on my sporadic

web feed was good, too. I'm bummed they're not showing it on TV.

One of the commentators on SNBC said "they" don't expect PO to pass, and that "they" are actually just hoping to open further discussion on the topic. :shrug: We'll see...

[Mass]

4. Baucus talking. No to public option because it will not pass in Senate.

Social Security was not complete, so why is it bad that this bill is not complete?

[gateley]

9. Thanks, Mass. And thank you Senator Baucus. Huh? nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. I am listening on c-span 3 at the website

Right now, Cornyn is blathering about nothing to kill time. Nelson waived his time. Kerry laid it out beautifully!

Here is the link I am using: http://c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_wm.aspx

Now it is back to Rockefeller for the close.

[gateley]

11. Thanks so much -- My onlline link (same as yours) kept cutting out and freezing,

so I appreciate your On The Spot reporting! :headbang:

[Ruby the Liberal]

18. Happy to help!

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. Baucus just said he won't vote for PO because it doesn't have 60 votes

Therefore, he is against it.

:crazy:

[TheCoxwain]

6. That is the lamest excuse evah!!!!

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. Rome wasn't built in a day. We can amend it later. Kicking the can down the road...

[Ruby the Liberal]

8. Rockefeller up for the close

[Ruby the Liberal]

10. Rockefeller: This is about the people.

PO was dead, we brought it back.

Public option makes sense because it doesn't have to earn a profit.

WV people don't like the excessive profits.

[gateley]

14. That doesn't compute with some of those jerks... nt

[Parker CA]

19. Rockefeller is giving a solid speech right now. Repeating "this is about people!"

[Ruby the Liberal]

12. Rockefeller: Process more important than people -- don't go there

That is where we are going and it is bad. Don't just pass a bill to say you passed a bill.

"Astounded" that (R) colleagues are OK with $483bn in new subsidies being given to insurance companies on top of what they are already getting when they aren't even competing in many states. Its obscene.

What is wrong with giving people a choice with PO?

[Dr.Phool]

13. Surprisingly, Bill Nelson was talking like a convert this morning.

After Rockefeller went through a litany of insurance company horror stories, and how companies evade federal regulations.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[gateley]

15. Ooooh -- that'll be interesting to see how he votes!~ nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

17. He deferred his time to comment -- said he will wait for Schumer amendment.

[gateley]

20. Does one necessarily negate the other? Like, can you vote for both or at they

at odds with one another? Do they have to pick ONE? It just occurred to me I have no idea...

[Ruby the Liberal]

16. Rockefeller: Status Quo to SP

Insurance won't obey new regs.

Sliding towards single payer -- no better way to do that than to keep the Status Quo

[gateley]

Single Payer -- the phrase makes their blood run cold. And he's right on --

Insurance won't obey new regs -- why would anybody think they would?

[Ruby the Liberal]

21. Rockefeller: Think about the children!

LOL!

Give them an option that doesn't answer to Wall Street.

"Public option is on the march".

If you want single payer -- go for the status quo.

[gateley]

24. Ha! Like that will work with some of those slugs. Ensign comes to mind...

[Mass]

22. Conrad NO Lincoln NO Nelson NO Carper NO - This one is lost

I

[gateley]

25. Damn. That makes me sad. Thanks. nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

23. COnrad - no; Nelson - no; Lincoln - no; Carper - no

[gateley]

26. Gee, how do you think Ensign will vote? :-) Thanks. Sinking feeling in my gut. nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

28. 15-8

*sigh*

[gateley]

29. Yeah. Sigh. Thanks so much for keeping me up to date.

:pals:

[MiniMe]

27. Schumer's amendment up now

For the public option

[gateley]

30. Thanks - wonder if that will be another dismal outcome. nt

[MiniMe]

31. The discussion so far on this one is positive, so far

Bill Nelson actually said he would support it.

[Ruby the Liberal]

32. Grassley - PO not fair to private/profit system

Gotta protect Wall Street!

[Ruby the Liberal]

33. Grassley - Congress broke promises to Insurers and changed the rules

{me - hey asshole -- thats called Regulating the crooks!}

Grassley is using the argument that congress can't be trusted to keep their promises to the private insurance companies.

[Ruby the Liberal]

34. Grassley - if govn't negotiates costs, costs will go up for everyone else

Rationing, price fixing, wait times for life saving procedures, bla bla bla

[Ruby the Liberal]

35. Ensign: Slippery Slope

He is just repeating the same talking points he has used for the last week. Nothing new - just stalling for time.

[Ruby the Liberal]

36. Ensign: The PO will take over the ~~UNIVERSE!!!11!!~~

What a maroon...

[Ruby the Liberal]

37. Bunning: Schumer will make competitive disadvantage to current system

[Ruby the Liberal]

38. Bunning: Private sector isn't doing what it should do, but it can

:wtf:

We need to "help them".

[Ruby the Liberal]

39. Kyl: Let the state insurance commisions keep the private honest, not the PO

[Ruby the Liberal]

40. Kyl: PO will force people into public market

and private can't compete.

[Ruby the Liberal]

41. Cantwell: Public option will leverage costs via negotiating

[Ruby the Liberal]

42. Baucus -- no because doesn't have 60 votes

[Ruby the Liberal]

43. Schumer amendment faIls 13-10

Usual suspects - Baucus, Conrad, Lincoln

[gateley]

44. Yeoman's job, Ruby -- thanks! I had to run to bring a trapped feral kitty to the

"feral kitty lady" so couldn't stick around. But thanks to your updates (now a recap :7)) I see how it went down. :toast: