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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:59 PM Original message |
We will never have this chance again!! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. They're called votes |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. And I'm sure they love... |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Everyone just loves having to fight with their insurance corp to get care covered. And the constant |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Thank You, very well said!! n/t |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. What's that quote... Better the devil you know... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. +1 |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. You can check the DU polls |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 05:55 AM Response to Reply #50 |
72. Sure. And they are happy with their local fire departments as well |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Oh. So they need to be educated? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Yes, and it's a real problem when most people are not, and will likely never be-- |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. My husband's about to reach his lifetime benefits distribution and will be kicked off his employer |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I'm really sorry... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
52. Did I say there wasn't anyone who wanted government health coverage? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Votes is the answer people want single payer but ES&S are counting the votes so the corporations win |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. +1 nt |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Obviously. That's why Medicare is so unpopular. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. That's right. Don't screw up their Medicare with govt health care |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. A loss on true and meaningful healthcare reform will become what defines the Obama administration. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. That's what I'm saying... |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. Its the blue dogs that are ruining this. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yes that is true... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. But, from what I'm seeing, the compromises would continue anyway. |
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Pyrzqxgl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. The left has to get off it's collective ass & find progressives to run against Blue Dogs. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. First you have to educate that electorate |
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frebrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. Exactly! This is our last, best chance....... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. You're wrong that there won't be another chance. The system is in CRASH MODE |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Which reform? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The reform coming out of DC that will do nothing to diminish the middle man's profits |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That is what I'm saying n/t |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Sorry I read too fast and misunderstood your position |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. No problem n/t |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
79. Or we can not pass it and force them to pass Universal Single Payer Paid for by w's tax cuts |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. K and R |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. Because government is the executive committee of the ruling class, of course. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. dupe n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I think you are correct... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. Looks to me like there was never a chance. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You are probably correct n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. furthermore, consider obama's campaign backers (e.g. the two richest men in the US, for starters), |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
46. Exactly. nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. A chance for single payer? Who said there was?? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Single payer is what is wanted and needed. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. Obama is not trying to please everyone. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That is certainly possible... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. But need that be bad? |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
28. Democrats need to start caring about people as much as they do... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. Because it isn't really an important issue to many of them. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
32. i don't think that's true. i'm with kucinich on this one. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Anything is possible... |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. You ask "so why can't they geit it through?" |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Someone else... |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Sorry |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Look... |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Interesting |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. OK... |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #48 |
73. No, I am not a Libertarian |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
37. Why? Simple... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Yes... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. "Unbought and Unbossed" -- Shirley Chisholm, RIP |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. The biggest error in your OP is that you somehow think that we have the chance now. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I think it would pass in the House... |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. There is NO WAY it would pass the house. No way. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. If there was... |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. And... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Obama is more interested in bi-partisanshit than leadership. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. The way... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Sad, isn't it? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Extremely n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. He pushed for the public option |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I do not think... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. What is your purpose? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. So, then, its stupidity? n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. What's stupidity? n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Nevermind n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. dupe n/t |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
66. Obama and the Dems don't *want* reform. They don't get paid for reform... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. +1 |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. +2 |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
70. Someone smugly stated "it's all about votes" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. I guess it is about stupidity |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
81. Sorry I missed this until now, dajoki... |
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