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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:13 PM
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Tea Parties-FAKE Pics Being Recycled to inflate crowd estimate?
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 09:06 PM by kpete
Teabagger fail: fake pics to inflate crowd estimate
by clammyc

Sat Sep 12, 2009 at 05:33:00 PM PDT

There are two main fake pics (fake meaning not from today) that are being recycled as if they were from today. Here is one:
http://twitpic.com/hhlju
which just so happens to be the exact same picture from the "Promise Keepers" event held back in the 1990s. Not to mention that today was pretty overcast, and the sun is shining in the Promise Keepers picture.



.........................


And there is another obvious fake making the rounds as well

this one with so many things wrong with it, that you can make a game of "find as many things wrong with this picture being claimed to be taken today" out of it.

Here is another being used at The Minority Report as well as at
Pajamas Media (Instapundit)
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit /
- look around 1/3 of the way down labeled "ANOTHER TRAFFIC CAM PIC FROM DC"

and as I said above, the reasoning used when the true live camera shots dont show the crowd (among other things) is that DC is looping old tapes on a Saturday afternoon to hide the "massive" protest.

I kid you not.

more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/12/781227/-Tea...

more proof:
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCXFETued-U&eurl=http%3A...
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:16 PM
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1. K & R
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:17 PM
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2. the first pic is a fake
but the other two are real, I watched that traffic cam LIVE this morning for about two hours ( while posting here ) and posted about what i saw then ( 10:30 ) so i KNOW those two pic are genuine...
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:19 PM
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3. And why is the flag at half mast? nt
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:22 PM
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4. jesus christ!!!
how many times do we have to go through this!!! YESTERDAY was 9/11 ( patriot day ) the flag was flown at half staff until noon today.... ( along with every other federal flag in America )
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:09 PM
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14. lol!
It's frustrating, isn't it?
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:25 PM
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5. Flags were lowered for 9/11. They were raised again later today.
Not sure if that's true. The flag problem made me think that the traffic cam photo was fake, but the 9/11 flag-lowering/raising seems plausible enough, and there were likely tens of thousands (3 10s? 5 10s? I don't know) of people at today's rally, which makes this picture not impossible.

If there are other problems with this picture that I'm mssing, I'm listening. It's certainly possible that it's not from today. The top pic is definitely not from today.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:28 PM
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7. It was only supposed to be at half mast from dawn to sunset yesterday...so who knows? n/t
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:31 PM
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8. you go ahead and believe what you like
but as i have said ( too many times today! ) I watched this cam this morning after being directed to it by a poster on this board, those pics are what i saw sometime around 10:30 this morning. I even posted a comment about it on some other thread at about 11ish..... but PLEASE dont take my word for it ( no one else seems to want to! ) but be aware that several other posters have also confirmed that they too were watching that cam this morning and also saw what i saw ( what these shots depict )
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:37 PM
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9. Then they need to get new staff to handle the flag...
"In accordance with Public Law 107-89, President Obama is requested to issue a proclamation, per the requirements of Flag Code Title 4 Section 7(m), for the U.S. flag to be displayed at half-staff for the entire day - sunrise to sunset - on Patriot Day, Friday, Sept. 11."

Just saying...
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:42 PM
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10. you know what
I dont fucking care any more!! I SAW that cam this morning!! and I dont give a fuck who believes it! this is just getting stupid now. believe what you want! I dont care!!!!!!!!!!
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:47 PM
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23. Ummm...why are you freaking out?
Seriously?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:25 PM
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24. I can understand marketcrazy1's frustration
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:25 PM by Emit
We have been through this before on another thread.

Some of us watched the traffic cam since this morning, and the photos in the OP are accurate. Here is a thread that was started this morning: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

We need to be accurate when we are calling them out. It does us no good to spread bad info.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:21 PM
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17. ?
I wasn't disputing the traffic cam pics, those certainly could be real. I was pointing out that the flag may have been lowered for 9/11.

I know you're upset that people are disputing what you saw, but try to read more carefully. I wasn't saying that I didn't believe you.

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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:28 PM
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19. apologies Revolutionstartsnow.......... N/T
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:05 PM
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12. I saw THAT traffic cam this AM, that's pretty much what it looked like. n/t
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:15 PM
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15. Yes, I saw it too. It is accurate.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:28 PM
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6. Aren't the flags still flying at half-mast for Senator Kennedy?
It hasn't been 30 days yet. Don't they usually stay at half-mast for 30 days after the death of someone like a sitting Senator?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:26 PM
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18. No. Obama directed that the fly half staff for 5 days.
There is credible real-time eyewitness evidence that the traffic cam image is valid. I think whoever is in charge of the flag screwed up. It was supposed to fly half staff yesterday from sunrise to noon in honor of 9/11 victims.
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jasi2006 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:42 PM
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11. I think the media, especially FOX "News" needs to be called on this.
The Dems need to raise this everytime they get a chance to talk.
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ConnorMarc Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:08 PM
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13. So What If Some Pics Are Real
The fact that they are posting or even promoting FAKE pics shows how pathetic these people are.

And I use the term "people" loosely.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:31 PM
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20. It matters to me
the 2nd two photos are accurate, and should not be part of the OP - the first is fake
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:15 PM
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16. I don't know about all these pics
But I was curious :) My brother and his wife live around 5 blocks from the Capitol. I asked him about it. They went to the Native American museum today since she works there. After work did some grocery shopping, etc.

Nothing was really out of the ordinary, from what he said.

Sounds like a bunch of hocus pocus bullshit to me. The media is famous for it! Is anyone surprised?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:31 PM
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21. notice that in the firt picture the two buildings with red roof and a domed building in between them
find that spot on the other pictures. Once you locate it, observe the number of people on that tree lined street.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:41 PM
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22. that first one is from the Promise Keepers march. Notice the teepees?
There were teepees at that rally.

From the Promise Keeper march.

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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:32 PM
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25. The fact that the Hateriots would use even one bogus photo to prop up the event
Proves they are far more interested in propaganda than the truth - but then I guess we already kinda knew that didn't we.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:01 PM
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26. 1st pic is fake. 2nd pic is legit, I watched it this AM, it's the webcam at
14th & E. It just showed marchers on the way to the capitol. Here's a link to video taken from podium that gives a good idea of the crowd but you really need a shot from the air. Video: http://qik.com/video/2869170
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