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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:06 PM
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I noticed that the Kennedy Funeral Mass included Holy Communion...
...did they let Senator Kerry and all those pro-choice liberals partake this time?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:07 PM
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1. The Mass was held in Boston, not Scranton.
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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:17 PM
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5. yes, refusing communion is a regional thing
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:08 PM
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2. I bet they did! I have for years.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:16 PM
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16. I did for the first time in years while visiting my great-aunt in Florida.
When a 90 year old woman expects you to go to communion, you go.

The ceiling didn't fall in, but when she tried to light a candle for my save trip, the votive wasn't work!

:shrug:
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:11 PM
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3. Did the shrub's wafer burst into flames?
It should have.

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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:19 PM
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6. DId HE go to Communion? That's a no no.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:22 PM
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8. The fucker autographed little American flags.
What the hell does he know about protocol? Besides, he's wasted. He'll do anything if it looks like fun.

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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:25 PM
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19. No . . . he thought they were celebrating Holy Communism
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 04:25 PM by ashling
:eyes:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:34 PM
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27. Why would he take Communion?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:14 PM
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4. They don't have a leg to stand on about Abortion until they just as publicly disavow WAR, "No Commu
nion for Pro-War Catholics" and they aren't going to do that.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:20 PM
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7. The Catholic bishops of the US published a statement against invading Iraq.That good enough for you?
Probably not.

Hekate

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:25 PM
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9. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy opens with the bulldozers
showing up at Arther Dent's home to knock it down as part of new highway construction. When Dent objects, he is informed that the notices were placed in the town hall for months. He investigates and finds the proposal at the back of the bottom drawer of a filing cabinet in the basement in a room with a broken light bulb.

Whenever the US Bishops issue a statement on social justice, they place it beneath that proposal.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:28 PM
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10. You're right it isn't. It would help to hear governors and such who favor the War of Aggression agai
nst Iraq threatened with denial of Communion; the same way they are if they are Pro-Choice.

Though I would ultimately say that Pro-Choice IS the real Pro-Life position, bishops attempting to deny the sacraments to War supporters would at least be the consistent, "Seamless Cloak", position on what is conventionally referred to as "Pro Life".
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:31 PM
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12. P.S. Look up the Order of the Spur and get back to us. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:13 PM
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15. P.P.S. google Opus Dei and General Franco
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:57 PM
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21. Is he still dead?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:22 PM
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18. But that's the point. Once they issued that statement, did they refuse communion
to those who advocated in favor of the war...or those who fought?


Didn't think so.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 05:06 PM
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24. Theat would have emptied the pews and the collection baskets and fund raisers. nt
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 05:11 PM
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25. I believe Pope John Paul condemned Chimpy's invasion and occupation of Iraq
Not sure what Benny the Rat said about it, but then he was Hitler Youth, so what would you expect?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:29 PM
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11. I watched the whole service on tv. Did you? I didn't see the congregation go to the altar rails...
... en masse, nor did I see communion wine and wafers being walked among the congregants.

I did see the priests give communion to each other, to Placido Domingo before he sang the Ave Maria, and to a few others whom I couldn't identify right off but presumed were family.

It was a congregation of many religious backgrounds, befitting a public figure of Kennedy's stature. Offering communion to all is not the Roman Catholic way, as is their right given our Constitutional freedom of religion clause.

The decision may have been made to have only family members receive communion, but in any case there was no occasion to leave anybody out. No need to perceive a slight where none was offered.

Hekate

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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:54 PM
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14. Mass was said after Kennedy died at the Hyannis house. No doubt
communion was offered to the family there. Communion for that whole church would have taken an hour.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:27 PM
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20. It appears communion was offered to anyone there who wanted it.
This is typical at Catholic funerals. We have had many Catholic funerals for my family and friends, and it is offered to everyone who wants it as a rule. In this case priests dispersed throughout the church in small groups to offer communion to the people in the back half of the church and I did see people getting up to go receive communion from that area.

The only reason we didn't see people going to receive communion en masse is because the cameras were focused on the organ player and singers. But that was the purpose for the music going on so long. To wait for all who wanted communion to receive it. I'm betting that a large percentage of the people there were Catholic including quite a few of the senators and families.

I was actually wondering early in the funeral how they were going to handle such a large number of people who would likely want communion.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:54 PM
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13. The cut the cameras to other things during Communion. I'm sure this was done at the request
of the family for obvious reasons.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 05:00 PM
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22. That's right. And that's when Placido Domingo was singing. n/t
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:20 PM
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17. Communion is always part of any mass. It depends on what priest is serving.
I hate to tell you most catholics are pro choice. They wouldn't have anyone receiving communion if that were the case. You must receive to the catholic church using birth control of any kind is against church law.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 05:02 PM
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23. Did you notice that the camera went up into the rafters of the church during communion?
I'm glad it did ... because communion gets really complicated in the Catholic church (who's divorced? who's pro-choice? blah blah blah).

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 05:52 PM
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26. Teddy is a member of the church - so what do you really think if you think about it?
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:45 PM
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28. Kennedy was a pro-choice liberal and took communion all the time.
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