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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:29 AM
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So another guy with a (unregistered) gun (loaded) was arrested in New Hampshire
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 08:32 AM by DainBramaged
And so the madness begins..........

Man arrested outside Obama event had loaded gun
A man arrested at the scene of President Barack Obama’s visit to Portsmouth, New Hampshire Tuesday was found to be in possession of a loaded, unlicensed gun, SeaCoastOnline reported late Tuesday night.

The site’s news page carrying the story was down Wednesday morning. The man’s arrest comes in addition to reports of a second man carrying a licensed gun outside the event. A video report on the arrest follows.

“Richard Terry Young, 62, of 821 Ocean Blvd. in Hampton, was arrested around 9:40 a.m., hours before Obama’s arrival, and charged with the misdemeanor crimes of criminal trespass and carrying a loaded pistol without a license,” the paper wrote.

“Young was found inside Portsmouth High School, where Obama later in the day held his town hall-style forum,” the paper added. “Young was detained by the Secret Service and subsequently arrested by Portsmouth Lt. Corey MacDonald. Young was carrying a pocket knife, police said. A subsequent search of his vehicle, parked on school property, revealed a loaded hand gun, police said.

“Police said Young is being investigated by the Secret Service for possible federal crimes resulting from the same series of events,” the story continued. “Bail was not immediately set, and Young was in the custody of Portsmouth police on Tuesday night.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/12/man-arrested-outside-obama-event-had-loaded-gun/

I wonder if he's friends with Tweak OpenCarry?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:32 AM
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1. There were quite a few threads about this one
Armed and dangerous
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:35 AM
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2. I been bizzy at work, just catchin' up I sorry.....
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:42 AM
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3. So are the
corporations sponsoring the disruptor planning to post his bail and get him a lawyer?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:45 AM
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4. What does "unlicensed" mean?
As far as I know just about all guns are unlicnesed, so I'm not sure what it means in the article. Maybe someone can enlighten me?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:58 AM
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6. In many states here in the Northeast, you need one license per gun to own it
especially pistols. Some states may allow multiple rifle and shotgun purchases on one license, but all guns are registered through licensing.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:14 AM
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8. Which states?
There is a 3 minute background check when you buy a new gun here, but that's all. What sort of license do you require? Is it like a conceiled carry permit? Do you have to go through a training class first, pass any tests, have any minimum experience level, does it cost you any money (like a poll tax)?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 10:02 AM
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14. The NJ process (I'm at work and prety busy, sorry)
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:17 AM
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10. In Mass, it's not just that the gun has to be licensed...


the person carrying it or the person transporting it...even in the trunk of a car...has to also be licensed.

Penalty is mandatory one year jail sentence.


So, for example, Mr Pip has a license and can carry or transport a firearm in the car.

I can't. If I were ever stopped with a firearm in the car...say Mr Pip forgot it (which happened one time) and I'm driving the car and he's not with me, that's it. I go to jail, because I don't have a license.

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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 10:03 AM
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15. Did you go to jail? nt
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:09 AM
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7. Probably refers to a concealed carry permit
NH doesn't require a license to own a gun, or to wear one on your hip, but if you want to carry a concealed weapon, you have to receive a permit from your local police chief.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:15 AM
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9. Here they are issued by the County Sherrifs, and can be a real pain in the ass to get
It too both my wife and I months to get our permits, but our son got his with no difficulity at all in the neighboring county.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:43 AM
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11. In NH..
..guns aren't registered, nor do you need a license to possess one. However, to have a loaded pistol in your car, you need a CHL. So it wasn't the gun that was unlicensed, it was the guy.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:46 AM
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5. So will this guy get to go on the TV interview circuit too?
Another Beck hero!
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:43 AM
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12. More from same article
“Young was found inside Portsmouth High School, where Obama later in the day held his town hall-style forum,” the paper added. “Young was detained by the Secret Service and subsequently arrested by Portsmouth Lt. Corey MacDonald. Young was carrying a pocket knife, police said. A subsequent search of his vehicle, parked on school property, revealed a loaded hand gun, police said.


He was charged with carrying it, but it was in his car. I wonder why the SS singled him out in the first place?
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:51 AM
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13. This guy broke the law and his detention and arrest was warranted...
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 09:53 AM by aikoaiko
if I recall NH law correctly. Its been a while since I lived there.

I believe you need a permit/license to carry a concealed weapon in order to keep a loaded gun in a car in NH. Also, the gun and knife on school grounds may be state law issue. In GA, for example, illegally carrying a concealed weapon can apply to knives, guns, and other weapons.

If they can prove that this was an attempt to do the President harm, then more serious charges should follow.

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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 10:25 AM
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16. I don' think the guy was a threat BUT I also have no sympathy.
Gun owners need to be responsible and know the law.

In NH like VA open carry is legal but conceal carry requires a permit (CCW).

NH statute states a loaded weapon in a car requires a CCW. The gun owner had a loaded weapon in a car but no CCW he broke the law. Bad news for him is likely it is a felony which means once convicted he is a prohibited person and can never own a firearm again.

Strangely in VA you can have a weapon in your car without a CCW but it must be in plain sight. So if the weapon was on the dash or on the seat it would be legal. Of course having a weapon on the dash or seat increases the risk of theft, to conceal the weapon you need a CCW but nobody said laws are always logical.

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