"An update - and a big new goal" Ohhhh my my my

[mymessageboardid]

Anyone just get today's email from BarackObama.Com? Today was the first day where I really heard President Obama say the words "health insurance reform" over and over again (at his town hall meeting). We all know that "health insurance reform" is simply an insurance bailout run by the insurance companies. Now I get the email. "Health insurance reform" is all over it. If you go back and look at past emails it was always "health CARE reform." Even in Mr. Obama's past town halls and press conferences it was always health "care" and not INSURANCE.

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[abumbyanyothername]

1. I think we need to organize a September march

on DC - FOR SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE.

I suggest we carry torches.

[SeattleGirl]

2. Actually, it IS the insurance system that needs to be reformed.

Overall, healthcare is pretty decent in the US; it's access to it that sucks, and that's what needs to be changed. Insurance companies need to be prohibited from making an obscene amount of profit at our expense. They need to be prohibited from denying coverage based on cost. They need to stop kicking people off their insurance because of a pre-existing condition. AND, they need to put people over profits, which to my way of thinking, means that it should be illegal for them to be publically traded companies.

So, I am fine with "health insurance reform".

And I'm especially fine with universal healthcare.

[abumbyanyothername]

3. Well then

And I'm especially fine with universal healthcare.

make a lot of noise. Outrageous, extreme amounts of noise.

BECAUSE THE MESSAGE ISN'T GETTING THROUGH.

[mymessageboardid]

4. EXACTLY!!

The message isn't getting through to those closed door meetings with the insurance industry that our President promised to televise on CSPAN.

[SeattleGirl]

6. Hm, did you miss it last night where he told the reporter that cspan

had been in those meetings, taking pics and stuff?

[mymessageboardid]

7. A reporter?

A whole reporter was in the meeting? On the campaign trail he said he would have negotiations with the insurance industry TELEVISED on CSPAN. You know, the whole "transparency" thing.

[SeattleGirl]

12. fWell, take it up with him then.

Battling with me about it is rather pointless.

[Mrs. Overall]

8. Nice repetition of a right wing talking point. I also don't vomit when I get email from BarackObama.

com.

You are so transparent it hurts.

[mymessageboardid]

11. So predictable

You can't question anything this President does without being called a troll. So him promising negotiations on CSPAN is a "right wing" talking point? Are you kidding?? The Republicans don't want their insurance industry buddies on live TV for all to see, trying to fu&# the American people. They are probably thanking President Obama for going back on that promise.

Doesn't that make you wonder WHY he decided not to televise the negotiations like he promised? He promised transparency, right?

[nightrain]

16. (( )) It gets ugly so quickly on DU.

I wish posters would please try to own their feelings, rather than assume something about another poster, and dump uncomfortable feelings. Gees. People--Remember what assume means?

[SeattleGirl]

5. Who says I;m not?

[abumbyanyothername]

9. If you are GREAT.

I just feel like we are not getting through.

I told Waxman's office, "If there were a national referendum on single payer, it would pass by double digits."

Dead silence on the other end.

I wish I could hook up with someone who is good at/capable of organizing one of these Million Patient Marches or something. We could have Kucinich and Representative Weiner of NY address the crowd. Someone in the Senate has introduced a single payer bill also.

And like I said, TORCHES! Maybe it will remind them of Paris circa 1790 or so.

[jwirr]

10. Absolutely. The problem of the uninsured is access - the ability to

find affordable health care. I do not want health care reform - I chose my own doctors and have very good local facilities and personnel. I do not need that part of the system reformed.

What I and the uninsured members of my family and friends need is access and that deals with the payee part of the system - the insurance/public option part of the plan. It is much more honest to refer to this as health insurance reform than health care reform. I prefer the single payer model but will accept a public option.

One of the things I see as a problem with health care reform is the idea that we could end up with our doctors and nurses employed by the US government. I want them to stay self employed. When my daughter was abused in a state institution the state both investigated the abuse and hired the people who did the abuse. It was a conflict of interest. I want the government to pay for services rendered only. I also want them to be able to set the rules for the program.

[dixiegrrrrl]

13. Some of us have been yelling about this for months and months now.

What? no recs?

[Schema Thing]

14. he's right, you're wrong

the biggest problem (among many problems) in American healthcare, is the American health insurance system.





And it's a word that can get most anyone worked up, "insurance". It's probably the best way to frame reform.

[mymessageboardid]

15. Sooooo

It is right to "reform" the insurance industry in closed door meetings at the White House and Congress? You think "reform" with these criminals will be real with them writing it? There shouldn't be "insurance reform" when it comes to people's health. There should be a single payer option taking profit out of the equation.