Does anyone here really think that Hillary would have taken on

[denem]

the corporate military industrial financial telecommunications media complex aka, the powers that be?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

1. Yes

[denem]

2. Why?

[itsrobert]

3. As contributers to her campaign?

In a heartbeat.

[BlooInBloo]

4. Doesn't matter. One of the few downsides of being on the side of the winning horse....

Is that you have to put up with the feverish glee of Clinton supporters whining about every imperfection that exists in the country. The obvious fact that Clinton is far more of an establishment figure than Obama ever was just doesn't matter; Obama won.

I can live with that.

[Maccagirl]

5. No.

Never. If she had, she'd be destroyed.

[lumberjack_jeff]

6. No less so than Obama.

Taking on the healthcare industry was one of her campaign promises.

[denem]

7. The emerging health care plan is almost point for point Hillary's

policy, starting with universal mandates.

[bread_and_roses]

8. well, that ain't sayin' much, brother

would she have done any bettr, I think is the question. I sincerely think not. But I doubt it will matter in the end. Our bought and sold so-called "Reps" will cobble together a mess that will leave the vampire insurance and big pharma profiteers sitting on pretty street, or however that saying goes. Including Obama. (And I supported Obama, and would very much like to think better of him - alas, the evidence isn't there.) Maybe if we'd started with a demand for single payer we'd end up with at least a livable "compromise." But all the big players on the progressive side were too timid - "couldn't be done." So, they started with their final offer, and won't get that now, sure looks like.

Instead, we'll get a goddess-awful mess that will set any real reform back years and years.

[Uzybone]

9. LOL

[camera obscura]

10. No.

[Toasterlad]

11. Hillary Clinton Is Not the President. John McCain Is Not the President.

You Obamabots have got to start living in the now. It makes absolutely no difference what someone else "would have done". We're stuck with Obama, and what he is - and is not - doing.

[SIMPLYB1980]

12. Yes, but not to the extent some would like her,

or Obama to. That far would only bring epic failure.