Now that we have "60", it's time for Harry Reid to put up or shut up.

[FLAprogressive]

Harry The Spineless Wonder no longer has the "we don't have 60 seats" excuse. He needs to shit or get off the pot now.

[CrispyQ]

1. I think Harry's the one with the tie on in this photo.

;)

[peacebird]

2. like *that* is gonna happen... he'll just find a new excuse - probably "bipartisanship"

:puke:

[FLAprogressive]

4. Harry? excuse-making? No way.

[Individualist]

7. You can be sure he'll come up with another excuse

He's DLC.

[marmar]

3. How can you pick out Harry Reid in a room full of amoebas?

He's the spineless one.....

:)

[Tempest]

5. 60 seats doesn't mean there's 60 votes

There's still the blue dogs that have to be taken into consideration.

[Dr Fate]

9. Great to know that we still have our preemptive excuses in tact.

Who needs "ways to make things happen" when we can have excuses for why they won't.

[Tempest]

12. What do you suggest to "make things happen"?

Things like threatening to withhold campaign funding like the Repugs?

[Dr Fate]

16. Whatever it takes, so long as it is legal. ANYTHING but lame-ass excuses.

Hell-why be negative- how about promising them MORE money if they vote with mainstream DEMS? Promise money to help them with counter-ads against the Health-profit industry, etc.

Where there is a will, there is way. I can come up with many ways to fight conservatives as opposed to excuses for not fighting them.

Maybe we dont have "the way" because there is no will?

If "the leadership" can convince congress that spending billions in a god-damned desert is a good way to spend money, then getting them to spend some money for the USA once or twice shouldnt be too hard. Harder than coming up with excuses though, I'll give them that.

[Tempest]

18. Promising more money is no different than threatening to withhold money

Any moral person can see that.

[Dr Fate]

19. Could it work? At least it's not another preemptive excuse for failure.

I'm told that part of the problem is the ads the Health-profit guys will run against them. Nothing immoral about giving DEMS money to fight those ads.


LOL! We are talking about conservative DEMS who are siding with Bush conservatives, yet the "morals" of those opposed to this are in question? LOL!

If you want to make a money-is-not-moral argument, then target DEMS who take Lobbyist money.

[SteelPenguin]

6. What 60?

you mean the 60 that includes people like Lieberman and Specter?

Yeah have fun with that.

[FLAprogressive]

8. it's been Harry's excuse thus far.....I guess he'll come up with a new one

[Dr Fate]

10. The excuses will never change much, that is for sure.

What will change is a more and more people will start seeing through the excuses. Seating Franken will not end the excuses, but it will make the excuses more transparent to more people.

More people will be asking: "Well what the HELL are you doing to GET the votes?"

[Tempest]

11. It would be like herding cats

And I don't want the Democrats to become like Repugs, using threats of withholding campaign funds and other fascist methods in order to pressure members into toeing the party line.

[LynneSin]

13. Getting 60 dems to overturn a filibuster will be just like herding cats

I've said it before and I'll say it again - 60 is just a number.

[Tempest]

14. And the true number is 59

Sanders is an Independent, not a Democrat.

[LynneSin]

15. 58 - that number also includes Lieberman

Thanks for sharing that too!

[Tempest]

17. It looks like the bandwagon has lost two wheels

Oh well, it gave the miscreants something to rail on for a few minutes.

[Dr Fate]

22. What a lucky break for the anti-"miscreants."

I almost thought we were going to have to craft new excuses for a second!

Thank God for lucky breaks. ;)

[Tempest]

23. Someone call the WAAAmbulance

"Harry Reid made me fall down and now I can't get up."

[Dr Fate]

24. LOL! I guess those excuse making conservatives in Washington showed me a thing or two !!!!

LOL! I'll think twice about calling them out after that one!!!

Wambulance? Does my insurance even cover that? ;)

LOL! Good one-"Call the Waaaambulance"- we have some "miscreant" DEMS here who want other DEMS they elected to vote with the mainstream!!! That's rich!!!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. Then there's Arlen Specter to consider

He's already said the Dems can't rely on him to vote with them.

[Tempest]

21. And let's not forget Nelson

He's already shown to have an "independent" streak.

[LynneSin]

26. Which one?

there are 2 and you can't tell them apart vote wise

I'm happy we have 60 but I still don't see it as a magical number that will solve all of our problems

[DailyGrind51]

25. It's time for Reid to resign in favor of a true leader, like Feingold.

[LynneSin]

27. And in 6 months we'd be screaming for Feingold to resign

Being a Majority/Minority leader is not a popular position.

[Dr Fate]

28. Not if he was able to "get the votes" instead of crying "we dont have the votes" like clockwork.

I'm not saying that Feingold is the answer, BTW.

I will say that Harry does seem to be better at covering for dissenting DEMS as opposed to twisting the arms of those DEMS who oppose the mainstream or the right side of an issue.

Maybe the issue is that Reid AGREES with the conservative DEMS-so that is why we dont get any arm twisting. Maybe this is why names like Feingold come up.