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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:14 AM
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'I often pumped his stomach to get rid of dangerous drugs': Michael Jackson's ex-nanny
The former nanny of Michael Jackson's three children has revealed how she regularly pumped the singer's stomach to remove a deadly cocktail of painkillers.

Grace Rwaramba, who was abruptly sacked by Jackson in December, also spoke of her fears for the future of the children following his death, and has flown to Los Angeles from London hoping to be reunited with them.

She revealed graphic details about the singer's increasingly desperate final months.

Rwaramba, 42, said he was 'penniless' and sponging off handouts and loans from friends, but was deluded by his 'riches', blowing money on exclusive hotels rather than providing a stable home.

She said the star was addicted to narcotic painkillers.

'I had to pump his stomach many times. He always mixed so much of it,' she said.

'There was one period that it was so bad that I didn't let the children see him... He always ate too little and mixed too much.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196026/Revealed-Nanny-regularly-pumped-Michael-Jacksons-stomach-dangerous-drugs.html
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:18 AM
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1. Sounds like someone is shopping to write a book
the man isn't even buried yet.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:57 PM
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22. Her words have the ring of truth. Those poor kids. n/t
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:21 AM
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2. Pumped his stomach ? can the layman do that ? with what
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 10:22 AM by UndertheOcean
Jackson had dedicated stomach pumping equipment in his home?

Does not sound plausible to me . Just sounds fishy.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:40 AM
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7. She probabally gave him epicac
It wouldn't shock me, though, to find out he had things like stomach pumps at his house, he was a freak, you know.

Does anything about his life sound plausible? This is Wacko Jacko we are talking about.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:25 PM
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23. sure
you just need a NG tube and a large syringe. You insert the tube and then aspirate with the syringe.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:26 AM
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3. Maybe this is what Liza Minelli meant when she said
"I'm sure when the autopsy comes, all hell's going to break loose. So, thank God we're celebrating him now."

link

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rocktivity
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:26 AM
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4. MJ's Daily drug intake:


Daaaang! Any junkie would be jealous of that mix. Dilaudid is like 10 times more powerful than morphine.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:31 AM
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5. Geez, 1 mg of Xanax
wipes me out. That has to be a typo on the mg.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:13 AM
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16. Undoubtedly a typo. A dosage of 0.25 mg of Xanax (bid or tid) is typical.
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 11:15 AM by TahitiNut
250 mg would be deadly toxic. A maximum of 4 mg daily is the guideline.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:15 AM
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17. Those narc dosages are nothing, really, for someone with chronic pain
and Jackson is widely reported to have had lupus, an incredibly painful disease. The duration for Demerol is only about 2 1/2 hours. That for dilaudid is about twice that. It's just enough to keep someone in pain functional during the day.

The Xanax should be in micrograms. Again, it's a small dosage.

There is nothing on this list that is far out of the ordinary for someone with chronic pain.

The only problem I can see is with the Demerol. It's not suitable for long term pain management because toxic metabolites can build up.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:26 AM
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19. Xanax doesn't come in mcg...it comes in mg
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 11:28 AM by rainbow4321
There's 0.5, 1, and 2 mg tabs.

See post #18 for the link to averages daily doses of Xanax depending on the patient's diagnosis.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:07 PM
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20. I remember it in 0.25mg (250 mcg) up to 1 mg. (1000 mcg)
Depended on the manufacturer.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:35 AM
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6. God that guy surrounded himself with losers and sycophants.
The entire mess and anyone having anything to do with it are sad examples of human beings.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:42 AM
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8. Scared to say no to him
most likely

Bush was like this.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:46 AM
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9. is the list of drugs he took legit? where did that come from?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:50 AM
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10. As long as that gravy train keeps running
there will always be someone there to ride it with you.

The saddest thing is all the vultures coming home to pick the corpse clean.

People like that make me ill.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:50 AM
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11. I was noticing that too
This weekend TV news had on hanger on like Brando's son, Uri Gellar, Deepak Chopra...

Is there any scammer and charlatan that this guy didn't get sucked into.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:55 AM
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12. There will always be grifters lining up to tell wealthy insecure people
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 10:58 AM by Ikonoklast
that their insane lifestyle is absolutely normal, and ignore anyone that tells them different.

As long as those checks keep cashing, they'll tell you exactly what you want to hear.

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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:06 AM
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14. I think this woman had the children's best interest at heart. She did ask his Mom and sister to help
him get treatment. He fired her for betraying him.

The nanny may have very well been the closest to a normal parent figure that those 3 children had. He didn't even like her hugging the kids.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196022/I-love-babies-I-miss--Michael-Jackson-froze-Former-nannys-shocking-revelations.html
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:59 AM
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13. Quite a battle going on for control of Jacko -- info gleaned on DU
Deepak Chopra
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/a-tribute-to-my-friend-mi_b_221268.html

His children's nanny and surrogate mother, Grace Rwaramba , is like another daughter to me. I introduced her to Michael when she was eighteen, a beautiful, heartwarming girl from Rwanda who is now grown up. She kept an eye on him for me and would call me whenever he was down or running too close to the edge. How heartbreaking for Grace that no one's protective instincts and genuine love could avert this tragic day. An hour ago she was sobbing on the telephone from London. As a result, I couldn't help but write this brief remembrance in sadness. But when the shock subsides and a thousand public voices recount Michael's brilliant, joyous, embattled, enigmatic, bizarre trajectory, I hope the word "joyous" is the one that will rise from the ashes and shine as he once did.

Account by filmaker/photographer Ian Helperin
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196009/Im-better-dead-Im-How-Michael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html

The clearout had apparently been engineered by his children’s nanny, Grace Rwaramba, who was gaining considerable influence over Jackson and his affairs and has been described as the ‘queen bee’ by those around Jackson.

Rwaramba had ties to the black militant organisation, the Nation of Islam, and its controversial leader, Louis Farrakhan, whom she enlisted for help in running Jackson’s affairs.

Before long, the Nation was supplying Jackson’s security detail and Farrakhan’s son-in-law, Leonard Muhammad, was appointed as Jackson’s business manager, though his role has lessened significantly in recent years.

In late 2008, a shadowy figure who called himself Dr Tohme Tohme suddenly emerged as Jackson’s ‘official spokesman’.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:09 AM
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15. Not the way to go about getting "reunited with the children", nanny.n/t
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:22 AM
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18. A link in the article has him taking **250 mg** of Xanax a DAY
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 11:23 AM by rainbow4321
:wtf:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196015/Michael-Jacksons-drugs-cocktail-highly-unusual-dangerous.html

It is understood that Jackson was being injected twice a day with the morphine-related painkiller Demerol, which in the UK is called pethidine and usually given to women in childbirth.
This was coupled with twice-a-day 3mg doses of the powerful narcotic Dilaudid, along with further injections of the painkiller Vistaril.
He was also taking 250mg a day of the anxiety drug Xanax, which is similar to Valium, along with 20mg of anti-depressant Prozac and 100mg of Zoloft. Jackson was also taking the anti-indigestion drug Prilosec.
An 'upper', the stimulant Ritalin normally given to children to treat Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, was also prescribed in 10mg.

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The Xamax alone comes to 250 pills a day. What did they put it in...a PEZ container? See below for typical daily doses.

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/rx/rx-mono.aspx?contentFileName=Xan1491.html&contentName=Xanax&contentId=641

Anxiety disorder

The usual starting dose of Xanax is 0.25 to 0.5 milligram taken 3 times a day. The dose may be increased every 3 to 4 days to a maximum daily dose of 4 milligrams, divided into smaller doses.

Panic disorder

The usual starting dose of regular Xanax is 0.5 milligram 3 times a day. This dose can be increased by 1 milligram a day every 3 or 4 days. You may be given a dose from 1 up to a total of 10 milligrams, according to your needs. The typical dose is 5 to 6 milligrams a day.

If you're taking Xanax XR, the usual starting dose is 0.5 to 1 milligram once a day taken in the morning. Depending on your response, the dose may be gradually increased by no more than 1 milligram every 3 or 4 days. The usual effective dose is 3 to 6 milligrams a day. Some people may need a larger dose to relieve their symptoms. Others, including older adults and those with liver disease or other serious illnesses, may need to use lower doses.


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:09 PM
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21. Vistaril is not a painkiller
It's an antihistamine and anti emetic commonly given with opioid drugs to prevent nausea and vomiting as side effects.

The 250 mg. of Xanax has to be a typo. That much would have killed a horse, a Xanax dependent horse.
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