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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:20 PM
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Larisa Alexandrovna: Our Very Own Taliban
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http://www.atlargely.com/atlargely/2009/06/our-very-own-taliban.html

June 01, 2009

Our very own Taliban

The tragic assassination of Dr. Tiller by a right-wing terrorist is yet another example of how dangerous Christian extremism is, just like its counterpart in Muslim extremism. The political right is now distancing themselves from this latest attack, but fail to see how their political shift to the extreme right has helped produce this latest crime.

Take for example Fox's Bill O'Reilly, who equated Dr. Tiller with Hitler. Salon does a fine job showing just how dangerous O'Reilly's propaganda is:

"But there's no other person who bears as much responsibility for the characterization of Tiller as a savage on the loose, killing babies willy-nilly thanks to the collusion of would-be sophisticated cultural elites, a bought-and-paid-for governor and scofflaw secular journalists. Tiller's name first appeared on "The Factor" on Feb. 25, 2005. Since then, O'Reilly and his guest hosts have brought up the doctor on 28 more episodes, including as recently as April 27 of this year. Almost invariably, Tiller is described as "Tiller the Baby Killer."

Tiller, O'Reilly likes to say, "destroys fetuses for just about any reason right up until the birth date for $5,000." He's guilty of "Nazi stuff," said O'Reilly on June 8, 2005; a moral equivalent to NAMBLA and al-Qaida, he suggested on March 15, 2006. "This is the kind of stuff happened in Mao's China, Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Soviet Union," said O'Reilly on Nov. 9, 2006."

The typical reaction from the Malkinites has been to brand this as an act of extremism, not terrorism. A bad apple that rotted away from the more mainstream tree.

The reality is of course contrary to such claims. Firstly, terrorism is always an act of extremism. Secondly, the far more important question that should be asked of the Malkinites is why they are busy trying to re-brand this violent act?

Perhaps because all acts of terrorism tend to force the more moderate members of a particular group to try to place some distance between themselves and an attack. On this point, I agree. The American Taliban does not represent mainstream Christianity. But the mainstream Christianity of the right has for many years now shifted far closer to the extreme than they wish to admit.

The extremists the right embraces are in fact mainstream

Ann Coulter wants genocide to cleanse the earth of the Muslim threat. She has openly hoped for the murder of liberals. She has argued that America is a Christian nation and that Jews would be perfected by becoming Christians.

Yet she appears regularly on Fox, MSNBC, ABC, and a plethora of other mainstream outlets, billed as a Conservative commentator. Coulter is not saying these things in someone's basement or out in the woods far away from the Conservative movement and standing along side David Duke.

She is invited over and over to give key speeches at various organizations also not on the fringe. But if Coulter strapped on a bomb and took out the New York Times building, would anyone be surprised? No. I would call her an extremists. Yet the political right embraces her fully. And she is just one example of so many, it would take a book-length long inventory to convey.

The right spends a good deal of time defending torture, mass murder, executions, and so forth. In fact, many of these arguments have become mainstream. Consider what your reaction may have been 20 years ago if a John-Yoo-type said on public television that the president could crush the testicles of a child if he wanted to, as was his power as leader to do? The country would have erupted in demands for his removal from office.

Yet not only has this kind of Executive power been supported by the mainstream right, but the crimes that have grown out of this policy have also been defended by the mainstream right. Again, these are not people hiding in a basement somewhere and claiming that torture is okay, murder is okay, all of it okay as long as it may save an American life.

How is that argument different from the justification for taking Dr. Tiller's life? It is the same argument. The doctor is a mass murderer and killing him saves American lives. When your political platform consists of religious zealots - including the former president who took his murder orders directly from God - and war profiteers, then a lone extremist with a gun is more likely than not.

You cannot advocate violence and then denounce it when it is politically damaging. You cannot argue that the US is a Christian nation and that the laws of Christianity supersede the laws of the land, and then denounce a lone Christian extremist exercising what he believes is the proper Christian reaction to what he views as the mass murder of innocents.

So while I agree that this murder does not represent all Christians - not even most - I disagree that it is an entirely extremist act outside of the mainstream political right. Not when the politics of the right have shifted so far to the extreme.


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:23 PM
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1. Perfect

You cannot advocate violence and then denounce it when it is politically damaging.

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I hope M$Greedia is listening.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:26 PM
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2. Excellent essay. K&R n/t
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:27 PM
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3. K&R
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:31 PM
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4. Please DIGG:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:16 PM
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9. done. . kick. . . n/t
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:33 PM
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5. K&R
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:55 PM
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6. When I watched DemocracyNow! today it was about Dr Tillers murder.
There was another Dr on the program. Dr Susan Robinson who I've known through my occupation. She told me she had been targeted. She told me these late term abortions were not about a teenage girl not fitting into her prom dress. It was life or death. Women who's lives are endangered because their baby would endanger their life. Just an example. She went to Kansas. She was terribly upset (understandably) when speaking on DN! Dr Robinson's neighbors had gotten a postcard asking her neighbors did they know she did abortions? The other side of the post card had a reference to Lady MacBeth. The last time I saw Dr Robinson was when I left a theater watching Michael Moore's documentary. She was passing out pamphlets. Great lady.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:17 PM
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10. i'm sorry i missed that...i gotta start using the tivo
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:13 PM
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7. kick nt
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:15 PM
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8. k/R
eom
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:18 PM
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11. many who have studied propaganda know what Fox is up to
they know very well what they are doing.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 03:58 PM
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14. Their propaganda has harmed so many
It is a very serious issue with me. People change when they watch Fox News and listen to the hate radio characters; it is not all in fun.

I am not sure how our country recovers from years of hate speech. It seems there is a good sized chunk of the population that can no longer deal with receiving anything but the propaganda they are used to.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:56 PM
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15. Sue FOX. Hate lawsuits have been VERY successful, when and where there are deep pockets.
Taking Hate Groups To Court by Morris Dees and Ellen Bowden
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - http://www.splcenter.org/pdf/static/courtroom_victories.pdf

"A hurdle facing most civil hate crime suits is that the defendants are penniless. ....."


Courtroom Victories:
Taking Hate Groups To Court
by Morris Dees and Ellen Bowden

NOTE: This article first appeared in the February 1995 issue of Trial, a publication of the American Trial Lawyers Association.

On a quiet evening in November 1988, Mulugeta Seraw, an Ethiopian graduate student, was being dropped off by two friends. Three skinheads from a racist group, East Side White Pride, spotted them. Wearing steel-toed boots and military jackets, the skinheads blocked the Ethiopians’ path and ordered them to move. When the Ethiopians did not respond immediately, one of the skinheads took a baseball bat and smashed their car windows. Another skinhead then turned the baseball bat on Seraw. With repeated blows, the angry skinhead crushed Seraw’s skull. Seraw was dead before the paramedics arrived on the scene.

Unfortunately, stories like Seraw’s are not uncommon. Hate crimes have reached epidemic proportions. Hate has motivated over 100 murders since1990. According to the FBI, 7,684 incidents of hate crime took place in1993 alone. The saddest fact is that these figures do not come close to measuring the true number of hate crimes in the United States. For every reported hate crime, as many as nine others may go unreported.
Hate crimes know no geographic boundaries. Once most often associated with violence in the South, hate crimes have touched every region of the country in recent years. No group is immune. Once most often associated with violence against blacks by whites, hate crimes now count Asian-Americans, Hispanics, Jews, gays, lesbians, blacks and whites among their victims.

Hate crimes pose unique threats. Victims of hate crime are much more likely to endure severe physical and psychological harm than victims of other violent crimes. Compounding the problem, hate crimes have the potential to convulse an entire community. The Rodney King beating illustrates how one hate-motivated crime can quickly become a focal point for venting long-simmering grievances. The social strife that often accompanies hate crime can irreparably damage a community’s cohesion.

The lawyer’s role
What can we as attorneys do to reduce hate crimes? One step ..............
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:48 PM
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12. K&R. (nt)
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 02:06 PM
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13. K&R
:kick:
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Ztarbod Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:20 PM
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16. Ideological extremism is bad
whether it is Christian, Muslim, Liberal, Conservative, Democrat, or Republican (etc). Unfortunately, most folks only recognize the extremism that opposes their personal ideology or view.
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