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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:45 PM
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"Why can’t this president give the previous president credit for keeping us safe for seven years?"
:eyes:

Video @ the URL below.



FNS: Nina Easton Wants To Know Why Obama Won't Give Bush Credit For "Keeping Us Safe For Seven Years."
By Nicole Belle Sunday May 24, 2009 7:00pm

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/fns-nina-easton-wants-know-why-obama

Oy. Only on FoxNews.

EASTON: Well, I thought this whole -- the two speeches this week were just a high-pitched -- unfortunate high-pitched partisan duel between the two of them.

I know the press focused a lot on -- and has focused a lot on Dick Cheney and his provocative comments that the administration is keeping us less safe. And frankly, I think Cheney should give this president some credit on things like his very difficult decision to not to release the photos of alleged detainee abuse, for example, his flip on military tribunals.

But if you look at the Obama speech, that was equally partisan, and there wasn’t a lot of focus on that. I mean, he talked about this mess that he had inherited. He talked about the administration sort of fitting facts for an ideological agenda.

Why can’t this president give the previous president credit for keeping us safe for seven years? And by the way, we know from the C- SPAN interview that he’s in touch with President Bush. They’ve actually talked since he’s been in office.

But I think it would carry this White House a long way past the problems that Ceci talks about and get the support of somebody like McCain, Senator McCain, or Senator Lindsey Graham , who also supported closing Gitmo and also had concerns about enhanced interrogation techniques.

I think it would buy him a lot of credit or a lot of good will on the other side of the aisle and with centrist Democrats if he gave this -- he gave the Bush administration some credit.

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:49 PM
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1. He can have a high five for being lucky, I guess.
But our being safe had nothing to do with anything Bush did.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:50 PM
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2. Fascist ass-clowns can all just go to hell
for all I care.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:50 PM
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3. How about he start by giving bush credit for 9/11?
Edited on Sun May-24-09 09:51 PM by The_Casual_Observer
fair & balanced.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:51 PM
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4. first we need the previous president to acknowledge that he let America down on 9/11
and had been briefed that this was going to happen on his August, 2001 vacation and didn't want to be bothered about it.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:51 PM
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5. why didn't the previous president
Edited on Sun May-24-09 09:51 PM by realisticphish
give HIS previous president credit for giving us a decent economy?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:56 PM
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8. Bush, August 7, 2002: "When I took office, our economy was beginning a recession"
Bush says he inherited recession

Bush, Cheney take advantage of revised GDP data to say economy a mess when they took office.

August 7, 2002: 6:04 PM EDT

By Mark Gongloff, CNN/Money Staff Writer

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Although last week's revision of U.S. gross domestic product data for 2001 may have been old news for the economy, it was something of a stroke of luck for President Bush, who has since used it as evidence that he inherited an economic mess when he took office.

Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, in separate speeches Wednesday, both claimed the U.S. economy was already in recession when they were inaugurated in January 2001, implying the blame for the slowdown rested on President Clinton's shoulders.

"When I took office, our economy was beginning a recession," Bush said in a speech at a Mississippi high school. "Then our economy was hit by terrorists. Then our economy was hit by corporate scandals. But I'm certain of this: We won't let fear undermine our economy and we're not going to let fraud undermine it either."

In a congressional election year, the administration seems determined to avoid the apparent mistakes of the first President Bush, who lost a bid for a second term after the Clinton campaign took advantage of the perception that Bush was not paying close enough attention to the economy.

http://money.cnn.com/2002/08/07/news/economy/bush_cheney/
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:48 AM
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24. AND for keeping us safe for seven years after the first World Trade Center bombing?
Edited on Mon May-25-09 07:49 AM by muffin1
edit to add: Fuck Bush
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:52 PM
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6. Good will on the other side of the aisle?
Excuse me but what's up with this mindset that Dems need to placate the losers? :shrug:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:55 PM
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7. What should he give him credit for?
For keeping the country scared shitless for 8 years? For spying on us? For lying to us? For being a dumb ass? For torturing people in our names? For driving our economy into the ditch big time? Just what should he give him credit for?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:56 PM
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9. It's like those signs you see at blue-collar workplaces
"Days since last injury."

"Days since last fatality."

ANY number on the board is unimpressive.

In this case "7" is particularly unimpressive. :eyes:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:57 PM
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10. I'd like to be able to say 8 years, but he FAILED after only one year in office
If we're keeping it real, you know?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:58 PM
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11. Tell the people trapped in the World Trade Center how Bush "kept us safe."
Idiots.

"Bin laden determined to strike inside US." Ignored. No counter-terror meetings prior to 9-11.

Tell the soldiers killed in the trumped up Iraq war how safe the President kept them.

Fuckheads.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:26 PM
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16. How many dead Americans in Iraq and Afganistan?
Those deaths don't count on "Bush's watch"?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:29 AM
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23. Not to mention the Bushies taking apart Clinton's operation to get bin Laden.
Oh, noooo, the Bush people wanted more "star wars" technology so that their fat cat contractor friends could get some nice, rich government contracts to build an essentially useless system for protecting us from attack!

I always like to throw THAT in the face of these revisionist repukes!
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:00 PM
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12. Because he didn't! I feel safer now than I have in a decade.
We had anthrax attacks. We were not kept safe on September 11th, 2001. Almost 5,000 American troops were not kept safe. DUH! :dem:
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:05 PM
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13. Don't consider having our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan making it safer especially not
for the troops. Bush put us more at risk.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:07 PM
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14. because it's not right to give GWB a pass for 3000 dead
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:15 PM
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15. Because being President isn't like the Special Olympics?
And Bush didn't keep us "safe" for seven years, as Ms. Easton and her Fox News cohorts kept screeching for seven years. PH34R! Look out! Terrorists! Aaaaaahhhhh! Buy duct tape! Buy plastic sheeting! Anthrax! Terrorists in your back yard! DC sniper! Missing white women! Terrorists at your workplace! Wet your pants! If you're not scared right down to your toenails, you're a traitor! Terrorists on the airlines! Snakes on a Plane! Assume fetal position and start sobbing! Save us, Bush and Cheney!

Any of this ringing a bell, Ms. Easton? Or did the botox finally seep into your brain?
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:31 PM
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17. Very convenient
Yeah isn't it convenient that these idiots always want to talk about Bush keeping us safe for 7 or 7.5 years unfortunately for them (and us for that matter) he was President for 8 years. Let's look at it another way lets say Bush came into office,6 months into his first term we are attacked with major loss of life. Then after being reelected just 6 months from the end of his second term we are attacked again with again major loss of life. Would they then try to claim that he kept us safe for 7 years ignoring the 2 attacks? It is the same ridiculous logic. Another point is that when they claim to have stopped possible attacks they never give any proof they basically just ask us to trust them (like any sane person would do that). That's the equivalent of me saying I kept you safe from cancer for the last 7 years because you don't currently have cancer. I can't tell you exactly what I did to keep you safe because I am trying to get a patent on the process but just trust me I did keep you safe for the last 7 years.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:37 PM
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18. Simple. He didn't. More people hate the USA than ever before
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:38 PM
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19. When you speak of presidential accomplishments you use either a four or eight year time
frame, not seven.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 02:11 AM
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20. Kept us safe?
Tell it to the million plus victims of crimes committed by the Mexican horde invited into this country - in direct contravention of the laws he was sworn to uphold
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:21 AM
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21. ask the residents of the Gulf coast how "safe" they felt only 4 years ago
fucking dumbass. As pointed out above, has my doctor "kept me safe" from cancer because I've never had cancer? (I haven't seen a doctor in years, btw).

and bush did NOT "keep us safe" because we WERE attacked on 9/11. why does that "not count"?

and where was widdle georgie-pordgie when anthrax mailers were at large for his entire term?

He did nothing, nada, zero, ZIP to "keep people safe" when actually warned more than 24 hours ahead of time of a humungous killer hurricane striking a city below sea level--and after it hit, he did even less to "keep people safe" who were trapped in their attics, on rooftops, in the civic center, even trying to walk out over fucking bridges, only to be shot at by racist asshole sheriffs. HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED NEEDLESSLY in the days following Katrina because Bush was so busy "keeping us safe"? when the fucking LOSER did show up, all he did was pose for photo-ops with fake "victims" with blindingly white sneakers who weren't even from that area (who were there apparently to loot) and with fake tables full of food that were promptly removed when the photo op was over.

I wish Obama would remind the people EVERY FUCKING DAY how fucking "safe" Bush and his bloodsuckers kept us. Each day could be a different theme and how NOTHING was done in that area.



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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:18 AM
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22. yeah, why can't Bush43 give Clinton credit for keeping us safe?
and for turning a deficit into a surplus, and for making the U.S. into a respected nation in the world's view, and ...
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:37 AM
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25. Only "safe" due to so much attention paid to the false flag used to bolster support for PNAC
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:46 AM
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26. Because he let ..
... the worst terror attack ever perpetrated on this country happen even though he was REPEATEDLY warned by CREDIBLE parties.

That's why, IDIOT.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 09:50 AM
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27. Because we have a President that knows the logical impossibility of such a statement.
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

"Why are you clapping?"

"DUH! To keep the TIGERS from attacking me, of course."

"But . . . there aren't any tigers anywhere."

"Damn, this clapping thing's working better than I thought."

SAME effing thing, Nina.

Yet the worst terrorist attack on American soil happens on BEWSH'S watch (and arguably, with BEWSH's foreknowledge . . . I mean, what, only 11 or more nations warned him no less than 40 times) and they still don't see the disconnect . . . they still don't see how absolutely DUMB the whole "becauz of Bush, no terrst attcks sins 9/11" statement is.

You're disappointed with logic, Nina; not with President Obama.
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rschop Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:58 PM
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34. KEPT US SAFE: WHAT A JOKE!
Kept us safe? Bush not only did not keep us safe but his own agencies in fact did exactly just the opposite.

This complete story on 9/11 is now summarized on the web, google the key word, "eventson911". You will find almost all of the source documents that back up this account, documents taken from the US governments own websites and sources.

All of the source materials on this site are now publically available. It turns out there was more than enough information on the internet to put the complete story of 9/11 back together again, it just took some time and effort.

The source materials on this web site comes from the following locations:

The Account of FBI Agent Ali Soufan, taken from the New Yorker July 17, 2006 issue, the former FBI Agent now testifying in front of congress this week on torture, the Department Of Justice Inspector General’s Report on the performance of the FBI prior to 9/11, the material entered into the trail of Moussaoui and the testimony given to the US DOJ IG investigators on November 7, 2002 by Sherry Sabol the attorney FBI Agent Dina Corsi consulted prior to taking the investigation of Mihdhar away from FBI Agent Steve Bongardt, testimony found on page 538 of the 9/11 Commission report.

The material from the Moussaoui trial came from the web site located at:

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exh... /

This is the government web site to hold all of the evidence items entered into that Moussaoui trial.

NOTE be prepared to be completely stunned by the material on just this one site!

The account of FBI Agent Ali Soufan comes from FBI Agent Steve Bongardt, Ali Soufan’s assistant on the Cole bombing investigation, and was given to author Lawrence Wright and vetted by John Miller information officer at the FBI prior to being published in the New Yorker and the book Looming Tower which won a Pulitzer prize in 2007, and can be considered the official account of the FBI prior to that attacks on 9/11.

A complete summary of what had occurred prior to the attacks on 9/11 is also available so anyone can see what had occurred prior to 9/11 that had allowed these attacks to take place. The CIA and even FBI HQ had the names of three of the al Qaeda terrorists for over 21 months and deliberately hid this information from the FBI Cole bombing investigators. This information was in fact kept hidden from the FBI criminal investigators by the CIA even after Walid Bin Attash, known to be one of the masterminds of the Cole bombing, was identified on January 4, 2001 in a photograph taken at the al Qaeda planning meeting in Kuala Lumpur, the exact same meeting attended by Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, and knew at that point that all three had planned the Cole bombing at this meeting. What they did not know was that these terrorists had also been planning the attacks on the World Trade Center Towers at this very same meeting, in fact this meeting had originally been set up to plan the attacks that later took place on 9/11.

The CIA and FBI HQ even kept this information secret from the FBI Cole bombing investigators after August 22, 2001, when the CIA and FBI HQ Agents found out that both Mihdhar and Hazmi were found to be inside of the US, and many people at both agencies knew they were in the US in order to take part in horrific al Qaeda terrorist attack that would kill thousands of Americans. See “Substitution for the testimony of John”, aka Tom Wilshire, in particular the July 23, 2001 email he sent back to his managers at the CIA where he said that Khalid al-Mihdhar will be found at the location of the next big al Qaeda terrorist attack, an attack that by this date the CIA and FBI HQ knew was going to take place inside of the US. This is also Evidence Item # 939 found on; http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exh... /.


The CIA and the FBI HQ agents working with the CIA "even knew” that their actions to block FBI Agent Steve Bongardt and his team from investigating and starting a search for Mihdhar and Hazmi, would likely result in the deaths thousands of Americans who would perish in these attacks.

The documents that are the proof of this along with the analysis to connect all of the dots together are located right on this site, and is summarized at the bottom of this web site.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 09:52 AM
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28. Giving Bushco credit for enabling/causing 7K-8K deaths during his (P)residency?
No thank you!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 10:46 AM
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29. Because it was the 8th year that counted.
He was cutting brush on the faux ranch and ignoring warnings prior to 9/11.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 10:52 AM
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30. We could modify the headline to read;
Why can't this president give the previous president credit for starting an illegal invasion, cutting taxes on the top 1% and alienating the rest of the world? I just sayin'............. :shrug:
:)
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 10:58 AM
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31. Yeah, but that one fuck-up was a DOOZY.
:eyes:
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 11:06 AM
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32. and the complicit MSM strikes again
no, he didn't keep us safe--9/11 and anthrax. He has literally opened the Pandora's Box in the ME--using our children and our money, while benefiting the most greedy war profiteers. He has created more terrorists by his actions, alone. He has created more diplomatic harm by said actions. Are our coastlines more protected? Did we increase monitoring of items coming into this country? No, you see that costs too much to do. So how has he kept us safe? Since it took approximately seven years from the WTC bombing under Clinton and 9/11, are we due, again?

The repeated warnings before 9/11 that they negligently dismissed. Does anyone feel safer? Lies that put our soldiers' in harms way needlessly. And from his own mouth, he no longer needed OBL as the boogeyman to terrorize us. That's right, it seems that we were the main target on the agenda. Ya know, "catapulting" the propaganda to keep the populace afraid, so they could trample on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, lie us into neverending war, bankrupt this nation and leave us more vulnerable.

Lady, you can spew that BS all you want, but I'll give him credit for putting most of the American people through HELL!!!!!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 11:08 AM
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33. hahaha, riiight, while we watched them play mirror mirror on the wall bush corporate pirates
robbed our treasury all the way out the door, cut America's throat on their way, and left her for dead real safe you bet
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:01 PM
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35. Why can't Mrs. Kennedy give the SS credit for keeping her husband safe the first 2 years? NT
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:02 PM
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36. Why didn't teh previous president give HIS predecessor credit for 6 years with no attacks?
The last terrorist attack on the homeland during Clinton's administration occured on April 19, 1995.

OOPS, I forgot, homegrown terrorism doesn't count or else clinic bombings would count.

So the last terrorist attack on the homeland during Clinton's tenure occurred on February 26, 1993, so that's nearly eight years without a foreign terrorist attack on the homeland.

And he busted up a terrorist attack that would ahve happened new years eve, 1999.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:08 PM
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37. Because he doesn't want to point out how Bush allowed us to be attacked 8 years ago.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:19 PM
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38. Sleeping at the wheel during the run-up to 9/11 was just the beginning of their
reckless behavior endangering the American People.

He didn't keep us safe, the military are also United States Citizens and by putting them in to a needless war based on lies; which were based on torture, thousands of Americans were killed and maimed.

By trashing the Constitution, outing a CIA agent and her company whose job was tracking nuclear material and putting them selves above the rule of law Cheney/Bush endangered the American People, this is an ongoing legacy, it didn't stop just because they left office.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:21 PM
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39. PNAC. Inside Job. Patriot Act. Phony War
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:26 PM
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40. Why can't Republicans admit the Bush administration failure on 9/11?
Why can't they admit the invasion of Iraq was a scam to steal Iraq's oil? Why can't they admit their economic policies and needless war have bankrupted the country? Why can't they admit they're destroying the country? Why can't they just STFU?
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