Kerry: McCain approached him about VP in '04

[WI_DEM]

"His people...approached me to explore a discussion about his potentially being on the ticket as VP"

and Daschle says that McCain almost bolted the GOP in '01

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/4/3/11936/97033

[Fridays Child]

1. Is John McCain even capable of uttering the truth?

What a worthless turd.

[originalpckelly]

4. Yes, he is a complete and total turd.

:puke:

[originalpckelly]

2. This just keeps getting better. I give McCain only a couple of months...

He's trying to play Mr. GOP, when in reality he almost jumped ship to our side.

Now that he's betrayed the soldiers to try and win the election, he's lost whatever support he had on this side.

[youngdem]

3. He's more of a Mitt Romney type than I have given him credit for

What a whore.

I thought he was formerly principled and restless, then became impatient in his hunger for power and sold his soul to the wingnuts.

Apparently, he's just a whore running for student council with absolutely no marriage to his ideals at all. Like I said, he's apparently more of a Mitt Romney than I thought.

This should nuke the rest of his campaign chances (if it gets wide circulation). Loyalty to party is more important than country or what's right to a Republican. This will read as high treason to a wing nut.

Ha ha.

[Deja Q]

5. Assuming McCain was telling the truth, and given the nature of the American people,

a Kerry/McCain approach may not have been a bad idea...

[WinkyDink]

8. Why would we "assume" this, given the OP????

[connecticut yankee]

6. In 2004 I heard

that Kerry asked McCain to run on the ticket with him.

Of course, I read it on the Repuke blogs, like lucianne.com.

Rashomon.

[Leopolds Ghost]

7. F**k. F*** f*** f*** he should have taken him up on it, dammit!

Kerry would be president today,

and McCain would be a personally popular but
partyless figurehead as Vice President.

G-damnit when will Democrats ever learn!!!!

[WinkyDink]

9. Are you CRAZY?? Look at McCain! THIS NUT is the man you'd have wanted

on our (your?) ticket?! HE HUGGED BUSH, fergawdssake!!

[Kelly Rupert]

14. And he'd have hugged Kerry, too n/t

[regnaD kciN]

10. Ironically, you're probably right...

The only possible drawback might have been some progressive Democrats bolting the party for Nader -- but probably nowhere near as many as the independents who would have swung to our side.

And, although I can't stand McCain, would he have been any more Republican as Veep than Holy Joe in 2000?

[Firespirit]

15. No!

McCain as VP would have undermined Kerry, not just on the war, but on other issues as well. He is a social and fiscal conservative. Kerry is a liberal.

Also, the press loved McCain. The press hated (and still hates) Kerry. Bad combination.

[Kelly Rupert]

17. McCain isn't a social or fiscal anything.

He isn't liberal, and he isn't conservative. He's a pure politician, and he'd have played nice for Kerry.

[Firespirit]

19. He would have been a Lieberman

McCain would not have been a team player in a Democratic administration. He would have used his "independent maverick" status to gain credibility in the press and undermine the administration to his own benefit.

[Kelly Rupert]

20. Not much benefit to being #2 in a failed administration. n/t

[Firespirit]

23. That's where the press comes in.

They would have propped him up because he is in bed with corporate interests. Kerry is not, and the press has never given him a break, ever. They would've thrown Kerry to the curb and hailed McCain.

There is an art form to sabotaging one's team for personal benefit, and I think McCain would have pulled it off beautifully.

[Cha]

32. IMO, you are absolutely

right about mccain if he would have somehow gotten the vp spot with President Kerry. What a bunch of bullshit that was and it turns out mccain is the one who wanted it..not Kerry.

Kerry was right in getting Edwards on the ticket.

mccain's a fucking traitor to the core and he's fishy floundering traitor that's maxed out.

[Toucano]

16. Kerry/Edwards won.

There's nothing to suggest that the election fraud used against Kerry/Edwards would have been any less effective against Kerry/McCain.

And as VP, McCain wouldn't have been a partyless figurehead, but a man a heartbeat away from being president.

No thank you.

[Kelly Rupert]

18. Okay, but we're talking about "win" meaning

"won the election," not "win" meaning "did not actually win, except in the minds of the tinfoil crowd."

See: Republicans in 2004.
See: Democrats in 2006.

[Toucano]

24. Are you disputing the election fraud in Ohio?

It's pretty mainstream now, hardly "tinfoil crowd".

[Kelly Rupert]

29. I am indeed disputing the assertion that John Kerry won the popular vote in Ohio.

And the position that he did is in no way mainstream, unless you define "mainstream" as "the most vocal contingent on DU."

And I haven't seen anyone try to prove that Kerry won the popular vote.

[Toucano]

33. That's not what I asked you.

иди на хуй

[Kelly Rupert]

34. If you do not believe that John Kerry won the popular vote in Ohio,

than you agree that he lost the election.

[rurallib]

11. Man, Johnny Mac wants the power bad

Good choice not to pick him, Mr. Kerry. Might have lessened your life expectancy.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

12. McCain may have the worst political instincts of all time

Angering his base at the wrong time, alienating independents at the wrong time
wanting power so bad that he stupidly loses his seeling point-his supposed authenticity
now he just comes off as bitter and clueless, having sold his soul and gained nothing.

imagine had he bolted the GOP in 2001, or had he not endorsed bush and ran as a third party in '01
he'd probably be president now. the integrity and standing up to the system he could have exhibited would have made him a hero to just about everyone, except for die-hard bushies

he really could have been something. now he's the biggest fool in modern poitical history.

[WI_DEM]

13. He's really destroyed that phony "maverick" image from 2000, but I would much rather go up

against old man McCain than Rudy.

[H2O Man]

21. I can remember

that McCain did this, and then attempted to cover his tracks by making it sound like Kerry sought him out.

[Taverner]

22. Wait a second - McCain's statement during the election was Kerry called him

And the story was that Kerry was pleading with McCain to join his ticket. Why didn't Kerry deny this when it came out???

[WI_DEM]

25. because he probably didn't want to get in a public feud with McCain

who was still, at that time, strong with Independent voters.

[Taverner]

26. Jeezus fucking christ - this kind of shit is what killed kerry

Because the RW hung this albatross around his neck in 04, with Mccain braying the story about Kerry pleading with him.

[Firespirit]

27. The press NEVER gave him the chance to say his piece

In another example, the campaign put out the truth about the swifties. The press continued to push the narrative that their claims were remotely credible.

Good grief, I never know what this site will advocate at any given time. Sometimes it's all about the purity, and other times it's all about what is perceived to "win."

Kerry made the right choice. If he had given in to McCain's pleading, the narrative would have been (in fact it was already developing by the time the rumor was flying): Are there no members of the Democratic Party who would be a good VP? Even if Kerry/McCain had WON, which is FAR from certain, that move would have undermined the party in a huge way.

[Taverner]

28. I agree Kerry made the right choice not picking McCain

But I wish to hell he would have slammed him pubically for lying about who courted whom

[blm]

31. That didn't happen. McCain denied the story back in 2004. It was people in his camp

who had earlier spread the rumor.

[blm]

30. McCain stated he was NEVER offered the VP spot in 2004 - it was his camp that

spread the rumor that he was asked.

McCain denied it then, but recently pretended the story was true when asked by the same Hannity who pushed the story as true in 2004. So, McCain got stuck having to lie because he was stuck kissing Hannity's ass.