oh boy, david gregory is on bringing down the ratings of the mourning joe show

[spanone]

he's on saying that the democrats were not willing to stand up to torture in 2002...oh really dave? how do you know that?

davey thinks the white house is upset with ms pelosi...oh really dave?

NOBODY is standing behind a wider investigation....oh really dave?

let's just move on....oh really dave?

[ShortnFiery]

1. Thank God some of you watch that FILTH and report back to us. I can't stand Mourning Ho-Jo. nt

[shadowknows69]

14. I'd have to take so much Xanax just to get through it I'd be unconscious in 20 minutes

[polmaven]

21. I try for the short time I have in the morning

before I have to go to work...I usually have to leave before 7:00, so i don't have that long a time to get ill.

This morning, though, was particularly irritating, with Joe being Joe, and Mika just absolutely being Meeka. I turned it off and left for work earlier than usual.

[kentuck]

2. And Gregory was willing to stand up?

Wasn't he part of the Fourth Estate at that time?

[mod mom]

3. Yes, don't you remember? David did stand up....

and danced with kkkarl up on stage. :mad:

[spanone]

4. david says 'waterboarding is now outlawed, won't be used again'

hey davey, it was outlawed when bu$h* used it

[kentuck]

10. What a convenient little factoid that Gregory forgot?

And this guy is the host of Meet the Press? How appropriate!

[Solly Mack]

13. people that repeat that bs always seem to forget that don't they?

[KharmaTrain]

5. Revisionist History...Stretch Delivers...

Just a refresher for those based in the real world...the boooosh regime used the '02 elections as a wedge to get their war for profit. In the days running up to the election, as Andy Card then said, they rolled out the "Fall fashions"...pushing for a quick vote on giving boooshie unlimited powers to wage war and violate civil rights, and those who questioned became targets. Dare I mention a great American and Senator, Max Cleland...who was slandered because he tried to stand up. Where was Stretch then? Dancing with MC Rove, of course.

[Supersedeas]

25. Mika said that it was over for Pelosi...time for her to go--funny, how she defended Palin

against the attacks of an unfair media.

[jefferson_dem]

6. He's totally hideous.

How long can he drone on saying the same thing...over and over and over?

...

[ErinBerin84]

7. did you notice

that he said "I talked to someone yesterday who said that neither Democrats nor Republicans would get away from this clean." Notice he didn't say an "official" or "administration source". No. "Someone". I remember during Race for the White House, he said "I was watching MTP yesterday (this was when Brokaw was doing it) with someone when Obama was on, and they said, 'you know, I just don't find him impressive." Uh, ok, Davey. WHAT THE FUCK does that have to do with anything? Be weary of his "someone", because he would have qualified it more if it was an actual source.


Yes, and he kept saying "There are Republicans who were IN THAT ROOM who say they WERE BRIEFED!" Ummm, did he ever get around to mentioning the other Democrats who said they WEREN'T briefed? I turned it off, but I doubt he made that point. Gregory is an effing disgrace.

[Vinca]

12. He got the RNC talking point in and that's all that counts.

What they don't realize is Democrats would not defend other Democrats who were proved to have been in sync with Bushco torture.

[ErinBerin84]

16. exactly.

It's not a matter of scoring Political points, and you would think that the media would LIKE the idea of an investigation that could possibly implicate both parties....very telling that they don't.

[spanone]

8. he ends his 'segment' with a plug for meet the press...the reason he's on

[Catshrink]

9. He's doing a great job of bringing down the ratings on MTP too.

Lowest they've been in years. NBC blew it when they chose him to replace Russert.

[H2O Man]

11. What seemed clear

was that David knows that the "leaders" in Washington, DC, do not want the public to learn more about what actually took place.

[spanone]

17. it really is great to have Carnac hosting meet the press

[H2O Man]

23. There are very, very few

journalists who want the public to have access to accurate information on the torture policies. David Gregory is definitely not among them.

[shadowknows69]

19. Because until there is a face to the madness; the horror displayed for all to see.

The victims of these atrocities can forever be relegated to the "Other" category; and we can do anything to the "Others" in the name of National Security.

Edit to add: I think I might start a thread on that point

[H2O Man]

24. Please do.

This is a good OP/thread, but I would enjoy it if you started a thread that expands on this.

[islandmkl]

15. i emailed the show about 10 minutes ago, while davegreg was spewing his BS...

they ran the Boehner-attacks-Pelosi scroll at the bottom, and I sent them the link to Boehner's 2007 comments and asked them why they weren't mentioning THAT as part of today's attacks on Pelosi...

[lamp_shade]

18. He makes shit up just to appear to be a privileged WH "insider". What a phony.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

22. Annnnnnd

he's lookin' more and more horsey.:thumbsdown:

[spanone]

20. laurence o'donnell has a lot of guts to wade into that shitfest

[Me.]

26. Bet He Doesn't Have A Clue

Why the MTP ratings are sinking faster than the dow. He keeps blathering the same cw that has been deemed' the truth'. Seems the lessons of recent elections haven't ben learned by any od them.

[karynnj]

27. In 2002, how many Democrats knew

Even the most inclusive list would extend to just Daschle, Graham, Pelosi and Harman who might have been told in November 2002 - and even that is contested. In addition it was in a classified briefing, so it is not clear what they could have done - other than quietly protest as Harman did. It was not until about a year later, in late 2003 that most Democrats heard anything - when the Abu Ghraib stories came out - two prominent Democrats, both running for President spoke out on the DAY that story broke. Kerry called for Rumsfeld to resign over it - as did Dean, independently, a few hours later.

This is bizarre twisting - where Gregory is acting as though people who knew, but couldn't stop it - were as complicit as those that ordered it. It also uses the fact that many Democrats were horrified by the torture and will be tempted to reject anyone who had anything to do with it. This results in a person who helplessly knew about it having more consequences than the people who did it.

[malaise]

28. He has never stood for anything

and is proud - fuck David Gregory - go and dance with Rove -EPIC FAIL!