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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:51 PM
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Should Germany have been made to publish photos/videos of extermination camps?
Obama is claiming it will do harm to publish the latest round of torture pics/vids.

I call Bullshit on the excuse for not allowing the release of pics/vids.

If you're not proud of what you did then don't friggin do this shit...

It's not the troops they are concerned about. It's the bullshit fairytale image of the United States they are worried about..

Time to grow up assholes.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:53 PM
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1. Or how about pictures of people being murdered or people being raped
Edited on Wed May-13-09 08:56 PM by stray cat
why don't we put those pictures on the air as well - why should only juries get to see the brutal acts themselves and the suffering victims of murder and abuse. There are people who actually would enjoy the pictures even. There are reasons we don't take crime scene pictures of victims during and after violence and put them on the front page
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:00 PM
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3. WTF are you talking about?
So you agree that the world should not have seen the Nazi death camps, the stacked bodies etc., etc..

We must sweep under the rug the atrocities the United States does because "we're the good guys"?



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:56 PM
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2. Apparently, nothing we do constitutes war crimes because
we left out creating extermination camps. Therefore any comparisons to that situation is wrong (I am learning).
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:01 PM
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4. Germany lost so the Allies published the pictures for them
Edited on Wed May-13-09 09:03 PM by dflprincess
However, German citizens were forced to walk through the camps and, in some cases, help with burying the dead, just to make sure they understood what had been done in their name. Perhaps Obama is trying to spare us any sense of shared shame :sarcasm:

What really pissed me off about Obama's U turn was quotes like this:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30725189/

Obama, explaining his change of heart on releasing the other photos, said they already had served their purpose in investigations of "a small number of individuals." Those cases were all concluded by 2004, and the president said "the individuals who were involved have been identified, and appropriate actions have been taken."


Apparently, he agrees that is was just a few "bad apples" like Lynndie England who were responsible for this.

It sure looks to me like Cheney is still running the show.

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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:03 PM
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5. So this is a reference to what Sy Hersch reported about the unpublished Abu Ghraib torture pics/vids
A child was sodomized
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:17 PM
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8. And, despite what Obama claims about these pictures not being as bad a the ones we've seen,
I think he's refusing to release them because they are worse and prove that the abuse was wide spread and would leave no way for the DOJ to avoid prosecuting Bush and Cheney - and any Democrats who were complicit before or after the fact.

Suddenly echoing the Bush line that it was just a few low level guards who went over the line is just too much stand.





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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:08 PM
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6. s.o.s.o.
same Old Same Old, politics as usual, different names and faces but the show goes on and on and on and on... Turley on Rachels show said it , he is morphing into his predecessor
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:10 PM
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7. The analogy is a bit off.
As noted above, Germany didn't publish anything.
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